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Man mauled by grizzly kills bear, lives to tell tale
CBC News ^ | June 6, 2008

Posted on 06/07/2008 9:36:22 PM PDT by george76

A man from B.C.'s Interior not only survived being mauled by a grizzly — he killed the bear as well.

John Shorter, 38, was hiking near Dease Lake in Northern B.C. Tuesday when he said he smelled a bear in the area.

"I heard a woofing sound, turned, seen a grizz coming at me. I managed to get my rifle up and get one round into the chest.… At that point he got on top of me, obviously, and took me down," Shorter said. "He proceeded to try to maul me in the back of the scalp and on the neck, and I protected my neck with my hands. They got fairly chewed up."

The bear was biting at his hands, which were covering his neck, so he dropped his rifle. He scrambled to get it back, eventually putting some distance between himself and the bear.

He shot the animal a second time, this time killing it.

"You just put yourself in overdrive and try and not get yourself killed," Shorter said. "It's an amazing amount of adrenaline going through yourself.… You get lots of thoughts going through your mind but you think about, obviously, your family and it's worth living, so fight."

I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help,"

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; bear; bearattack; bearattacks; bears; grizz; grizzly; grizzlybear; maul; wildlife
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1 posted on 06/07/2008 9:36:22 PM PDT by george76
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To: fanfan

Any good ?


2 posted on 06/07/2008 9:40:27 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

When you go bear hunting, you must remember that sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you.


3 posted on 06/07/2008 9:41:29 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: george76

I’ve done alot of hiking/camping in remote British Columbia...always worried about running into one of these bears...saw some giant fresh footprints once...and a recent kill...fur everywhere, above in the trees, on the ground, at the side of the trail...just two hooves left. Think it was a deer. Yikes.


4 posted on 06/07/2008 9:41:33 PM PDT by spyone
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To: george76
A man from B.C.'s Interior not only survived being mauled by a grizzly — he killed the bear as well.

-snip- 

"... I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help..."

It's official.  We have found the one man tougher than Chuck Norris.

5 posted on 06/07/2008 9:41:35 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: DJ Taylor; george76; nw_arizona_granny
pet
6 posted on 06/07/2008 9:44:48 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: george76
"I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help..."

I bet Mr John Shorter clanks when he walks!

7 posted on 06/07/2008 9:46:02 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: george76

Well, there are worse things...like getting mauled by the IRS.


8 posted on 06/07/2008 9:46:46 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (History is a story written by the finger of God. — C.S. Lewis)
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To: JRios1968

liah


9 posted on 06/07/2008 9:47:03 PM PDT by dhot (I take life with a grain of salt, a wedge of lime and a shot of tequila.....)
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To: spyone; kanawa; RightWhale; Eska; redpoll

HULA HULA RIVER — No one will ever know how Richard and Kathy Huffman came to be killed by a grizzly bear along this river in late June.

It is clear the attack by a healthy, 9-year-old male bear was not the fault of the Anchorage couple. They kept a clean camp. They pitched their tent where they could see bears coming and where the bears could see them to avoid confrontation. They stored their food in bear-proof containers.

And they carried a gun just in case all of these bear avoidance efforts failed and they had to defend themselves.

They were killed by a bear anyway, and authorities said the dead rafters had done everything right. That is true, but there are also things they could have done differently.

“If they did everything right, and they died, what’s the message we’re giving the public?’’ wondered bear biologist Tom Smith last week. “You can’t do anything about this?

“Well, one thing I can do is camp in two tents.’’

http://www.illinoiswaters.net/heartland/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9366


10 posted on 06/07/2008 9:47:41 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LucyT; jazusamo; SunkenCiv; BIGLOOK

Because grizzly bears are significantly more powerful than black bears and can kill as easily by accident as by design, it was long assumed that these bears were less prone to hunt humans than are black bears.

Smith, however, says the data indicates the opposite.

“If we factor in that there are at least three times more black bears in Alaska than brown/grizzlies, we see that brown/grizzlies have actually had more than double the predacious events per 1,000 bears than black bears,’’


11 posted on 06/07/2008 9:49:10 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

12 posted on 06/07/2008 9:50:18 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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“I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I’d better go and get some help...”

At least his brains weren’t hanging out afterward.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2017249/posts


13 posted on 06/07/2008 9:51:40 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("I think my brains are hanging out," he said.)
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To: george76
John Shorter, 38, was hiking near Dease Lake

Is that near Lakes Dem and Doze?
14 posted on 06/07/2008 9:52:15 PM PDT by Krankor (N)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I’d say he is probably British.


15 posted on 06/07/2008 9:52:21 PM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: dhot

Well, I NEVER!


16 posted on 06/07/2008 9:52:28 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: kanawa

HAY, another bear survival story


17 posted on 06/07/2008 9:53:13 PM PDT by Feiny (www.soldiersangels.org)
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To: george76


One sees the appeal...
18 posted on 06/07/2008 9:54:13 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Krankor
laughing
19 posted on 06/07/2008 9:54:55 PM PDT by Feiny (www.soldiersangels.org)
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To: kitchen; MtnClimber; familyop; XeniaSt; GladesGuru; Cowgirl; Grammy; Let's Roll; Candor7; ...

‘I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I’d better go and get some help.’

— John Shorter


20 posted on 06/07/2008 10:01:19 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter

ping


21 posted on 06/07/2008 10:33:18 PM PDT by IncPen (We are but a moment's sunlight, fading in the grass ...)
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To: george76

The grizzly bear is the most fearsome animal on dry land, is highly aggressive, and has a bad temper.

If you’re hiking in grizzly country, bring a .44 magnum.


22 posted on 06/07/2008 10:49:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If you’re hiking in grizzly country, bring a .44 magnum.

Bring a rifle. Even the much-maligned .30-30 is twice as powerful as a .44 magnum.

23 posted on 06/07/2008 10:58:39 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
Bring a rifle. Even the much-maligned .30-30 is twice as powerful as a .44 magnum.

Bring both.

24 posted on 06/07/2008 11:11:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Bring both.

Best defense --stay outta griz country

25 posted on 06/07/2008 11:41:39 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Krankor
Is that near Lakes Dem and Doze?

Obviously they were named by Joe Pesci

26 posted on 06/07/2008 11:49:29 PM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: george76
"I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help,"

Yeah, what the heck. Why take chances? The bleeding might attract another griz.

27 posted on 06/07/2008 11:58:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: maine-iac7

Can I bring a flame thrower?

That’d be kind of cool, seeing an 800 pound ball of blazing fur sprinting across the horizon.

This idea gets better the more I think about it.

How about Hummer mounted flame throwers hosing down herds of protected caribou?


28 posted on 06/07/2008 11:58:17 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: george76
"It's an amazing amount of adrenaline going through yourself.…"

Yep, that's amazing stuff, but it's a real bummer when it wears off and you feel all the things you broke.

29 posted on 06/08/2008 12:07:33 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: george76

Get a video about calling bears. Or, just buy some varmit calls, rabbit, etc. and sit in the bush and start blowing on them frantically until you see a bear coming straight for you.


30 posted on 06/08/2008 12:10:24 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: george76

Hey George—heading back to Denver along the side road next to I-70 between Georgetown and Idaho Springs on Thursday, we spotted a brownish looking bear in the road heading to the water between the highway and the road. I tried to take a picture, but he darted back up the hill and we coudn’t see him. We spun around in the Jeep and he was back on the road again but as soon as he saw us he headed back up the hill. First time I’ve ever seen a bear in Colorado or any place. It was kind of exciting. Thankfully not as exciting as this guy’s story though.


31 posted on 06/08/2008 12:23:13 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: george76
Here's a pic of a black bear I bow hunted this spring. Nice male about 5 years old.

Photobucket

32 posted on 06/08/2008 12:29:31 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Jeff Chandler
As Alaskan natives told me: "If you do, file off the front sight." When I thought about it a moment, this made zero sense. So I asked "Why?" "So it doesn't hurt so much when the bear shoves it up your ." The preferred weapon in Alaska seems to be a 12ga with big slugs.
33 posted on 06/08/2008 2:09:19 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: zeestephen
Firepower
34 posted on 06/08/2008 2:55:46 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Dick Vomer

Whatever shoots that shell kills on BOTH ENDS.


35 posted on 06/08/2008 3:35:45 AM PDT by wastoute
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To: CurlyDave
He had a rifle and managed to put a round into the chest.

Unless he would have spined or brained it, the bear most likley still would have had half a min or a min to do some damage even if he would have taken the heart and lungs out.

Doesn't take them long to do some very serious damage saw some pictures of a grizz attack years ago the warden and his helper thought the bear was on him for about 30 seconds it did a bit of damage in that short time.

I wonder what cailber of rifle and what bullet he was using . He most likely was hunting black bears at the time. Being armed is a very good thing I now carry a TI 41 mag back packing When one sees a big bear one always wishish for something bigger. But when one is out humping the mts for a week one wishish for something lighter

36 posted on 06/08/2008 4:01:11 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: CaspersGh0sts
"One sees the appeal..."


Yeah ... my first wife looked great in photo's also ... you I couldn't live there though.

37 posted on 06/08/2008 4:04:03 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: george76

In an area with a lot of black bears, it would be a good idea to carry a .44 or larger sidearm for self defence (works on two-legged predators too BTW).

In an area with lots of grizzlies though? Well, I’d recommend a 12 ga. with slugs or something along the lines of a 45-70 Guide Gun.

The .44 is a fine pistol cartridge... but it’s still just a pistol cartridge. To give you an idea of the world of difference between a pistol and a rifle or shotgun cartridge, check out this fun page: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot5.htm

This is what a padlock looks when it’s hit by a .44 Magnum: http://www.theboxotruth.com/images/5-5.jpg

This is what a padlock looks like when it’s hit by a shotgun slug: http://www.theboxotruth.com/images/5-14.jpg


38 posted on 06/08/2008 4:57:29 AM PDT by jameslalor
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39 posted on 06/08/2008 5:27:51 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: wastoute
Recoil

Recoil2

40 posted on 06/08/2008 5:52:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Nathan Zachary

Good job


41 posted on 06/08/2008 8:02:49 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Ol' Jedediah Smith survived a Grizzly Bear attack too .

Jedediah Smith

42 posted on 06/08/2008 8:13:58 AM PDT by csvset
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To: george76
I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help,"

Sounds like John Shorter didn't need any help, matter of fact he might not even have needed the rifle, this guy is tough.

43 posted on 06/08/2008 8:18:34 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76

Shouldn’t he be charged with something? If in USA he would be.


44 posted on 06/08/2008 8:32:02 AM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: Dick Vomer

Are those from a four bore?


45 posted on 06/08/2008 8:46:17 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: george76

Bear Attacks: The Deadly Truth

I think this is the best of the bear attack books. I have a copy and have given one away as a gift. An excellent read.


46 posted on 06/08/2008 5:10:17 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Thanks


47 posted on 06/08/2008 5:11:46 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

If a bear mauled me, I’d be ticked off too. ;’)


48 posted on 06/08/2008 7:59:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: jameslalor

The Forest Service used to issue .375 H&H Magnums to their folks in Alaska...sounds about right to me.

Of course, that was 30 years ago. Now, they probably issue talking points and tapes of classical music to play while you are being mauled.


49 posted on 06/08/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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To: NVDave
As Alaskan natives told me: "If you do, file off the front sight." When I thought about it a moment, this made zero sense. So I asked "Why?" "So it doesn't hurt so much when the bear shoves it up your ." The preferred weapon in Alaska seems to be a 12ga with big slugs.

When I was up there, 2 Air Force personnel were hunting Grizzlies with rifles, one shot a grizzly and it rushed him, bit into his rifle. He raised his front leg up next to his mouth and snapped the wooden butt stock off like it was a toothpick. The hunter's partner shot and killed the bear, but not soon enough to save him.

50 posted on 06/09/2008 2:13:27 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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