Posted on 06/08/2008 10:11:10 AM PDT by Bobkk47
It has been a refrain during the exhausting battle for the Democratic presidential nomination that once Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama emerged as the party's choice, we could finally dispense with the personality battles and get down to nitty-gritty policy differences. Indeed, now that Obama seems to have the position locked up, he and presumptive Republican nominee John McCain will have plenty to argue about. But some might be surprised at the breadth of issues on which they largely agree.
On McCain's side, this is understandable. With a Republican president experiencing some of the worst approval ratings ever, it's no shock that the party opted for an unusually centrist candidate. Yet Obama, too, represents a break from Democratic orthodoxy and is reaching out to the middle. This could indicate that on certain policies, something like a national consensus is developing. It at least signals a lessening of the partisan divide that has blocked progress on important changes.
Here are the biggest plots of common ground:
* National security. Surprisingly, given McCain's reputation as a hawk and Obama's as a peacenik, they don't differ much in their ideas about how best to protect the country. Both want to increase the size of the military and provide more training and equipment. Both oppose the use of torture as an interrogation technique, and both would like to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center.
* Immigration. Lately, McCain has been trying to shore up conservative support by backing away from bills he cosponsored in 2005 and 2006, which would create a guest worker program and provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants; now he says he'd focus on securing the border first. Yet that doesn't stop him from touting his immigration reforms when visiting states like California,
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What a crock of BS
Nice try.
Yep, that jumped out at me too.
There, fixed it.
Hey LA times, Just say no to crack!
They are the same in the sense that NEITHER possess any true leadership abilities.
But, there are other vital areas where they are not.
Barack Hussein Obama is the apex of the hate-America, domestic enemy in this country. His election as president would be the greatest coup any enemy has ever scored against this country and could easily lead to the worst, horrific disaster in our nation's history.
Obama is always pandering to the crowd, let the LA slimes call him on it ;)
Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp
How does one take this as wanting to increase the size of the military:
“I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems. I will institute an independent Defense Priorities Board to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary defense spending ... I will set a goal for a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal: I will not develop nuclear weapons.”
Also, wasn’t there a recent successful test with the “unproven” missle defense system?
Beat me to it :).
Are they the same?
No.
One is white the other black.
One is tall the other short.
One is a communist the other is not.
A vote for EITHER is a vote for more of the same poison killing our Republic. They are just a choice between dosages.
- he is "reasonable" (for a Republican) on pro-choice issues
- he wants to "protect" the environment
- he wants to stick it to "big pharma"
- he cut "big money" out of politics
- "he is not a racist" (regarding immigration) (lol)
- he opposes Bush administration policies on "torture" and gitmo
- he is willing to accommodate "reasonable" gun controls
- he will not "threaten" PRECIOUS social security
- he will make sure the "rich pay their fair share of taxes"
- he has supported moderate and rejected "far-right" justices (gang of fourteen)
- war hero
- wants to regulate corporate renumeration (CEO pay)
- is a maverick Republican
It is surprisingly easy to get even life-long Democrats receptive to the notion of voting for McCain. My great aunt's sticking points are:
- he supports the war in Iraq
- he does not support nationalized health-care
- he supports NAFTA (she lives in Michigan)
- MOST IMPORTANT: He is a "Republican"
Obama and McCain, the same?
While neither man has an qualifications to be President at least one McCain belives in America, while the other Obama believes in Government and himself.
Hahahahahahaha!
The author of that Obama puff should put away their crack pipe. This YouTube video explaisnexactly what Obama's "defense" aka surrender policy is all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE
Amongst other things, Obama promises to leave Iraq at once(exact opposite of McCain's position), something that will lead to a conflagration engulfing the entire Mideast.
This communist will also:
Cut investments in “unproven” missile defense systems(read ALL missile defense systems, given that every defense system is unproven till its fully tested and developed).
Not weaponize space.
Slow our development of future combat systems
Stop development of new nuclear weapons by America(even as Iran , north Korea and other crazies step up theirs).
Etc etc.
Of course if we don't have any ABM capability it gives the haloed one an acceptable explanation when he submits in the face of future nuclear blackmail. "Hey don't blame me. The system was never proven. Who's to say it would work now?"
Of course there are some who will say that this future nightmare is the haloed one's plan and desire.Who's to say those folks are wrong?
Well, according to his little speech he wants to eliminate our whole nuclear arsenal. How anyone could vote for this assclown is beyond me.
They are as different as night and day, and it’s not just in reference to the military. Obama wants to socialize the healthcare system. He wants to socialize homeowner’s insurance. He wants to tax corporations (particularly the oil companies) out of existence.
He’s a socialist, plain and simple.
Obama’s Plan To Disarm The U.S.
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=297645696465868
“Defense Policy: In the middle of a war on two fronts, Barack Obama plans to gut the military. He also wants to dismantle our nuclear arsenal. And he wants to keep you in the dark about it.
In a 132-word videotaped pledge (still viewable on YouTube), Obama agreed to hollow out the U.S. military by slashing both conventional and nuclear weapons.
The scope of his planned defense cuts, combined with his angry tone, is breathtaking. He sounds as if the military is the enemy, not the bad guys it’s fighting. Here is a transcript:
“I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning; and as president, I will end it.
“Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.
“I will institute an independent defense priorities board to ensure that the Quadrennial Review is not used to justify unnecessary defense spending.
“Third, I will set a goal for a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenal.”
Obama and McCain
By Thomas Sowell
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/06/05/obama_and_mccain?page=full
“While all sorts of gushing is going on in the media, and posturing is going on in politics, the biggest national sponsor of terrorism in the world— Iran— is moving step by step toward building a nuclear bomb.
The point when they get that bomb will be the point of no return. Iran’s nuclear bomb will be the terrorists’ nuclear bomb— and they can make 9/11 look like child’s play.
All the options that are on the table right now will be swept off the table forever. Our choices will be to give in to whatever the terrorists demand— however outrageous those demands might be— or to risk seeing American cities start disappearing in radioactive mushroom clouds.
All the things we are preoccupied with today, from the price of gasoline to health care to global warming, will suddenly no longer matter.
....
But you cannot lose a nuclear war for three years and then come back. You cannot even sustain the will to resist for three years when you are first broken down morally by threats and then devastated by nuclear bombs.
Our one window of opportunity to prevent this will occur within the term of whoever becomes President of the United States next January.
At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure— at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.
Senator John McCain has been criticized in this column many times. But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.
On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him. The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer. “
Neither one is an asset and they are both huge liabilities. So, I guess they are about the same. I would not want them on our nations balance sheet. They would not improve the annual report. In fact, it would be best just to write them off as bad debts. Wish it were not so, but sometimes a nation has no choice but to endure bad investments.
Not true. Obama has made it clear he would cut the military.
The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides
U.S. POW/MIAs Who May Have Survived In Captivity
Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video
Former P.O.W.: "Why I Cannot Support Senator John McCain for President"
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