With U.S. in slump, dual citizenship in EU countries attracts Americans

Palm Beach Post ^ | Saturday, June 07, 2008 | ANDREW ABRAMSON

[Dagnabitt]

Suzanne has a EU passport mostly so she can be a self-important, wine bar snot

LOL

[Spirochete]

And this little gem:

"My dad was actually the one who put a bug in my ear about the whole citizenship thing. He said that Europeans are more interested in the quality of life than the quantity, and that it was a good place to have and raise children because of the way their social systems work. I don't care much about the child-rearing part, but I would gladly trade in some of my material possessions for a little flat, a scooter and more vacation."

[Aglooka]

“She plans to move to Paris, brush up on her French and engross herself in the European business world.”

Sounds like another upper middle class, white, “progressive.”

Hey, these twits always rant and rave about how Europe is so great. Let them leave!

[CarrotAndStick]

Thanks!

[alecqss]

How does this dual citizenship work? Can one individual hold the passport of two countries? I thought that was illegal.

I've heard of people holding 3 passports, btw... I don't know whether dual citizenship is illegal. All I can say that for naturalized citizens it's an explicit betrayal of the oath they give when getting naturalized. Oath includes renouncing of the loyalty to any other nation, but the US.

[Dagnabitt]

...and the melodic call to prayers echoing through the town

[Enchante]

"Apparently, she doesn't realize that the US is 50 "countries"

Actually, more like 57 or 58, according to the latest Democrat presidential nominee.....

[thundrey]

Don’t knock it. Having dual citizenship opens up a lot of avenues. As an EU citizen you have an automatic right to live and work in any other country in the EU (although for me being monolingual, the only viable alternative is Ireland). I would love to have dual citizenship with Canada, like my cousins do. I wouldn’t feel any sense of torn loyalty, because the best part is you swear an oath of loyalty to the same Queen, so I wouldn’t feel any conflict with my British citizenship...

[Aglooka]

“I don't care much about the child-rearing part, but I would gladly trade in some of my material possessions for a little flat, a scooter and more vacation.”

This is called “sustainable growth.” This is the type of mandatory lifestyle environmentalists want.

[raybbr]

Oh, Brother!

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[Gay State Conservative]

With the exception of US/Israeli dual citizenship, our State Department does not officially recognize the concept.

This is a widely held misconception.The State Dept neither "recognizes" nor condemns dual citizenship.It's current legal and that's it.My understanding is (although I'm no Constitutional scholar) that the Constitution can be amended to forbid dual citizenship...which is something that I,a dual citizen,could support if it was also amended to do away with automatic US citizenship by birth,a concept that used to be common in western democracies but it now almost unheard of among such countries.

As a practical matter, if you hold two passports you have to be careful which one you use when entering a country. If, for example, you hold both a US and an Italian passport and you use the Italian passport to enter Germany and you then get in trouble with the German legal authorities you can’t count on the US embassy to help you out.

Nope,not entirely true.Given the scenario you set forth the only place that person would not be able to receive diplomatic protection from US authorities is Italy.In fact,in Germany that person can receive diplomatic protection from US *and* Italian authorities.

[A message]

Yada, yada, yada. I know a Dutch man who moved to the USA and loves it here. He loves the freedom, the space, the buying power and conveniences of our life here. He says his son turned around his life here too when his son realized that you can work hard and make a gob of cash without the government stealing it all.

Bottom line, let the grass is greener on the other side of the fence libtards leave.

Having traveled myself I can unequivocally say.

THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE TO LIVE THAN THE USA.

[Enchante]

This one's so "extremely proud" of her GREEK heritage that she wants to go live in...... PARIS.

So much for that proud Greek heritage.....

Globalization is a word on the mind of Lauren Berg, a recent college graduate from Michigan who is obtaining Greek citizenship based on her grandfather. She plans to move to Paris, brush up on her French and engross herself in the European business world. "It's definitely a really good thing to have on your résumé with business going so global," Berg said. "I probably never would have done it if it wasn't for the EU, but at the same time I've always been extremely proud of my Greek heritage."

[ought-six]

“Sounds like another upper middle class, white, ‘progressive.’”

Who will gladly swap freedom for the promise (never kept) of “security.” Let them immigrate to Europe or any other damn place they want. It’s better for America that those light-weights leave.

[angkor]

If, for example, you hold both a US and an Italian passport and you use the Italian passport to enter Germany and you then get in trouble with the German legal authorities you can’t count on the US embassy to help you out.

I'd not any expert on Old Europe, but last time I was there I went to several EU countries and they barely looked at my passport. It wasn't swiped, stamped, examined, or even handled by a single border official.

By the time I returned back home (here in the USA) the only evidence of my travels was a tiny U.S. customs stamp from the port of entry, which IIRC was JFK. It wasn't even dated.

For example, at different times I have worked legally in France and in the UK.

Working for an NGO in most countries gets you a official diplomatic visa, which can come in handy esp. in third world dungholes. That "gratis consulaire" will certainly speed you through the customs lines at the airport.

[ought-six]

She’s a flim-flam artist! A bunco scammer!

[Gay State Conservative]

Usually, there’s an elaborate procedure to surrender one’s old passport at the consulate of the nation of origin, in order to obtain the new passport from the adopted nation.

I don't know how it is with other countries but to renounce *US* citizenship one must already have citizenship in at least one other country.This is required to prevent creating a "stateless person" who would be someone who might not have the legal right to live *anywhere*.

Having two passports, simultaneously, provides good avenues for criminals.

Agreed.But in my case my Irish citizenship puts this country,at worst,in danger of having to deal with yet another drunken Mick. ;-)

[ought-six]

“THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE TO LIVE THAN THE USA.”

Until the Magic Mulatto and his other marxist comrades come to power. I’m 57 and I have never feared for my beloved America the way I fear for it under a future Obambi administration.

[JoJo Gunn]

And several of those cesspits will haul you before some Orwellian tribunal for your comment.

[Varda]

I can see this as an attraction for young people. My niece just got back from a semester in Europe and she was surprised to find the Europeans are proud of their countries. She said none of the Americans were. She found their patriotism attractive.