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Obama Could Win 40 Percent of Evangelical Vote, Says Expert
The Christian Post ^ | 7-07-08 | Jennifer Riley

Posted on 06/08/2008 6:41:25 PM PDT by 444Flyer

A well-connected authority in the evangelical world said in an interview this week that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama could get up to 40 percent of the evangelical vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at christianpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; babykiller; christianvote; deadbabies; evangelicals; partialbirthabortion; religiousleft
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Anyone who claims to be an "evangelical" needs to think twice before pulling the lever for this all promises, flip-flopping baby killer. We will all face our Creator one day and give an account.
1 posted on 06/08/2008 6:41:26 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer

He’s an expert what? Guesser? He should join a carnival and get some real practice.


2 posted on 06/08/2008 6:43:33 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: 444Flyer
The “punished with a child” remark should figure prominently in advertising directed at Evangelicals.

At the right time.

3 posted on 06/08/2008 6:44:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: 444Flyer

Are these one of those “evangelicals” that support abortion? Hogwash, Obama has the black vote and the brainwashed liberals. That gets him about 35-40%. Perhaps he can win with enough recounts and hanging chads.


4 posted on 06/08/2008 6:44:30 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: 444Flyer

But he’s for “change” and “hope” and “hope for change” and all that, and he’s Messianic and vibrant and good looking and....

The Sheeple of the United States...


5 posted on 06/08/2008 6:46:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I predict the sheeple will riot when their Messiah fails.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 6:47:31 PM PDT by driftdiver
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Does anyone know the number of Evangelical votes Bush got in the last election. 40% for Obama seems excessive, even with all the uniformed and gullible in the Church today.
7 posted on 06/08/2008 6:48:17 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m beginning to get very nervous about that.

For that matter, I suspect they might riot if he wins.


8 posted on 06/08/2008 6:48:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But he’s for “change” and “hope” and “hope for change” and all that, and he’s Messianic and vibrant and good looking and ...

The Sheeple of the United States...”

sigh...Where is Wisdom?


9 posted on 06/08/2008 6:50:31 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: 444Flyer

There’s a whole lot of people claiming to be “evangelicals,” if they support the pro-death position of the Obama campaign.


10 posted on 06/08/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: 444Flyer

I’ve seen a bunch of posts today “predicting” that Obama will get the Evangelical vote, the conservative Catholic vote, etc. I suspect the article writers have been sent propaganda by Obama publicists which they are dutifully rewriting and publishing in an attempt to give the impression that it’s a done deal and that everybody who’s anybody supports their Messiah.

I think we’re going to see a lot of this in the future.


11 posted on 06/08/2008 6:52:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: Sherman Logan

I expect the ghetto gang grubs will riot along with Michelle. She’ll probably be leading the pack.


12 posted on 06/08/2008 6:52:57 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: 444Flyer

I predict that Angelina Jolie and Catherine Zeta Jones are on their way to my house with some baby oil and a six pack of Michelob.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 6:53:04 PM PDT by Mr. Pumblechook
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To: 444Flyer

BS.

I won’t be part of the 40%, thank you.


14 posted on 06/08/2008 6:54:02 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Maranatha!)
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To: 444Flyer

That does seem to be missing from his mantra, doesn’t it? From his LIFE, for that matter.


15 posted on 06/08/2008 6:54:32 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: 444Flyer

Do we have a definition of *evangelical*, as used in the article? I have been told by non-Christians/secular progressives that churches I consider liberal like United Methodist and the more liberal Lutheran congregations are considered *evangelical*.

Obama will get the votes of the liberal Christian churches.


16 posted on 06/08/2008 6:55:14 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: livius

I wonder if one of their examples is a gay Bishop in the Episcopal Church.


17 posted on 06/08/2008 6:55:48 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: 444Flyer

“Evangelical” is a very loosely defined term. 1/3 of “evangelicals” as defined by various pollsters voted for Clinton in 1996. When parsed more closely, this turned out to be part of the more pedestrian fact that roughly 90% of blacks voted for Clinton (and whoever else the Democrats ran for office). African-Americans make up a disproportionately large fraction of those classified as “evangelical”. They also tend to belong to churches like Obama’s where abortion is practically a sacrament. Margaret Sanger’s legacy lingers on!

http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro.html


18 posted on 06/08/2008 6:55:51 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: reformedliberal

SO true!


19 posted on 06/08/2008 6:56:34 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

So are these “Evangelicals” the ones that “cling to their guns and religion”?


20 posted on 06/08/2008 6:57:45 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: 444Flyer
...Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama could get up to 40 percent of the evangelical vote.

It's possible, but I thought only 20% of the evangelical vote was brain dead. Learn something new every day.

5.56mm

21 posted on 06/08/2008 7:00:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

Good website post. Most people don’t connect Obama with radical black-hater Margaret Sanger’s philosophy. Good point.


22 posted on 06/08/2008 7:04:14 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: 444Flyer

If they are pro-abortion Jew haters, Obama has a lock on their vote.

I doubt their numbers are 40%.


23 posted on 06/08/2008 7:08:45 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: 444Flyer

Why would an evangelical vote for Obama...an abortion supporter , Homosexual supporter, a man who only joined a church for political reason, to find out that that after 20 years that his pastors hate of America was not a plus to his being elected?


24 posted on 06/08/2008 7:10:54 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: 444Flyer

A devout believer can in no way vote for a pro baby killer like Hussein Osam......Obama!


25 posted on 06/08/2008 7:13:02 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: 444Flyer
A well-connected authority in the evangelical world said in an interview this week that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama could get up to 40 percent of the evangelical vote.

One would have to be very "well connected" indeed to be able to foretell how people are going to vote.

Or deluded.

26 posted on 06/08/2008 7:14:09 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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To: 444Flyer
well-connected authority in the evangelical world

What is with all the anonymous sources? An anonymous source can and will say anything.

27 posted on 06/08/2008 7:14:15 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: driftdiver

That thought has crossed my mind too.


28 posted on 06/08/2008 7:17:16 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: 444Flyer

Any evangelical that votes for a man that endorses abortion up to 9 months needs to have their asses kicked.


29 posted on 06/08/2008 7:18:27 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: 444Flyer

Check Out Barack Obama is Not a Christian

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/


30 posted on 06/08/2008 7:24:29 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: golfisnr1

That needs to be pointed out. He’s a CINO according to his actions.


31 posted on 06/08/2008 7:29:12 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: 444Flyer

Well this will surely be a strange election because i know a whole teamsters shop who is voting for McCain.


32 posted on 06/08/2008 7:30:51 PM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: 444Flyer
please . who is peddling this propaganda? Osama Obama is pro abortion and pro partial birth. did the leftist media peddle the same stories in 2006 and turn out to be pack of lies . the obama media war continues and look for more of the same lies about so called Obama republicans . the obama never sleeps.
33 posted on 06/08/2008 7:34:29 PM PDT by ncalburt
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I predict that Angelina Jolie and Catherine Zeta Jones are on their way to my house with some baby oil and a six pack of Michelob.

Dude, that is funny! I'm having a hard time explaining to my almost 3 year old what was making me laugh so hard.
34 posted on 06/08/2008 7:41:23 PM PDT by ScottinSacto
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To: 444Flyer

agreed...please- if any Evangelical votes for someone who voted to let live birth abortions continue they best never try and preach to me!!


35 posted on 06/08/2008 7:42:54 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: DesScorp

nine months?? try nine months plus- he wanted to let the practice of live birth abortion continue...


36 posted on 06/08/2008 7:44:05 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: 444Flyer
Has anyone bothered to read the article? The evangelical vote is up for grabs mainly because of McCain's indifference and/or hostility towards them.

The fascination with the charismatic Illinois senator combined with evangelicals’ effort to not be seen as an appendage of the Republican Party could swing evangelical voters in Obama’s favor, predicted Mark DeMoss – a prominent public relations executive whose clients include Focus on the Family, Franklin Graham, and Campus Crusade for Christ – to Beliefnet.com.

and

On McCain’s part, he hasn’t done much to reach out to DeMoss either. DeMoss said he has received one phone call from a McCain staffer about a month ago asking if he would like to help campaign for McCain. But the evangelical leader, who had enthusiastically campaigned for former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, turned down the invitation.

37 posted on 06/08/2008 7:45:39 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: 444Flyer

If they vote for Obama, they’re not evangelical.


38 posted on 06/08/2008 7:45:51 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: 444Flyer

It seems “evangelical’ means different things to different people. I always felt it meant Bible believing, social conservative Christians wanting to spread the Good News. That would mean no Evangelical would consider voting for Obama.


39 posted on 06/08/2008 7:45:56 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: upsdriver

I heard this yesterday, on tv. My guess is that this is another push to put Huckabee, the huckster on the ticket.


40 posted on 06/08/2008 7:46:41 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: upsdriver

McCain has some splainin to do to evangelicals, that is for sure. He needs to leave out the attitude and bridge the gap when it comes to all conservatives, and then follow through on his word to them.

And as for evangelical choices, it would be better to leave the space blank than vote for the false messiah.


41 posted on 06/08/2008 7:53:30 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: Mr. Pumblechook
I predict that Angelina Jolie and Catherine Zeta Jones are on their way to my house with some baby oil and a six pack of Michelob.

That's funny, they haven't mentioned leaving my house yet, or my bedroom, for that matter...
42 posted on 06/08/2008 7:54:28 PM PDT by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: Eva

Maybe, but McCain sure hasn’t helped himself much in this regard.

Sure, Obama is pro-abortion, but will McCain even have the guts to make it an issue? My guess is that he won’t because it will hurt his Independent/Democrat voter outreach.


43 posted on 06/08/2008 7:54:59 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: 444Flyer

My prediction is that many of them will stay home and not vote at all. That holds true for many voter blocs. It is hard to find anyone who is enthused about this election. Many will turn out to vote out of duty but most people need a positive compelling reason to get out and vote. This election may have the lowest turnout in a very long time.


44 posted on 06/08/2008 7:59:49 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: upsdriver
I think you are absolutely spot on when it comes to the lack of turn out coming up this election year. I am hoping and praying people still turn out to vote for the minor, but sometimes very important issues- such as defending marriage- this election regardless of their presidential choice.
45 posted on 06/08/2008 8:04:37 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: 444Flyer

Yes, same here.

Those issues may up the voter turnout, we have some initiated measures here that will need a good turnout.


46 posted on 06/08/2008 8:18:57 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: 444Flyer

Yeah, black evangelicals!


47 posted on 06/08/2008 8:24:33 PM PDT by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: 444Flyer
**Obama Could Win 40 Percent of Evangelical Vote, Says Expert**

No way. Many evangelicals vote along stricter lines than Catholics. Read these links.

Catholics Debate Obama Vote

US Bishops Urge Voters to Give Priority to Life [Ecumenical]

Corralling the Catholic vote: Political necessity or pipe dream?

DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election

EDITORIAL: Why This Catholic Dreads the Campaign The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)

Thoughts On ‘Roman Catholics For Obama’

How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question

Catholic Pro-Life Leader Feuds With Barack Obama's "Catholic" Backers

McCain and the Pope: McCain cannot win in November without the Catholic vote (Reagan re-visited?)

Catholics Cannot Vote for Pols Who Support Abortion, Except for Morally Grave Reasons: KY Bishops

48 posted on 06/08/2008 8:36:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Yeah, McCain has shown about as much enthusiasm towards evangelicals as he has towards conservatives.

He’s done nothing but breed suspicion in both groups.


49 posted on 06/08/2008 8:39:51 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Salvation

Thank you Salvation.:)


50 posted on 06/08/2008 8:43:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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