Posted on 06/08/2008 8:14:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
While other states move away from giving illegal immigrant college students state benefits, the California Legislature appears to be pushing to give them more access to colleges and universities.
Last month, North Carolina's community college system said it would no longer admit illegal immigrants.
But in California, where illegal immigrants are allowed to enroll in state colleges, some lawmakers are backing a bill that would allow illegal immigrants to qualify for state financial aid and fee waivers.
An estimated 65,000 illegal immigrants graduate from U.S. high schools each year and could potentially attend college, according to a study by the Urban Institute, a Washington-based economic and social policy research organization.
Those students often are at the forefront of the nation's debate over immigration reform.
Some see the students as a burden on the state's strained resources.
Others see them as victims of the nation's broken immigration system.
"These students are being severely impacted by inhumane immigration laws, and I think our educational laws need to change to ensure that all our students have equal access to education," said Arcela Nunez-Alvarez, who heads the National Latino Research Institute at Cal State San Marcos.
Under a 2001 law, illegal immigrant students are given the same tuition discount as other state residents who attend UC, CSU and community college schools.
Late last month, the state Assembly approved Assembly Bill 2083 by Assemblyman Fabian Nunez, D-Los Angeles. The bill would give illegal immigrant students access to state grants, scholarships, work-study and loan programs, which are now denied to them.
A similar bill ---- known as the California Dream Act, named after a federal bill that would give illegal immigrant students legal status ---- was passed by the Legislature last year and was vetoed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
This year's bill, which is now in the state Senate, was approved in the Assembly largely along party lines, on a 46-31 vote. North County's all-Republican delegation voted against the bill on the Assembly floor.
Assemblyman Martin Garrick, R-Carlsbad, said he doesn't want to give any state benefits to illegal immigrants.
"If someone were to take two years off to serve their country and then decide to come back to college and his seat is taken by someone who is not a citizen of this country, that is not an acceptable scenario to me," Garrick said.
The assemblyman said he would also support barring illegal immigrants from attending state colleges.
Several North County legislators have repeatedly failed in their efforts to roll back the state's in-state tuition policy for illegal immigrants. That's largely due to the Democratic-dominated Legislature, which has effectively blocked Republican efforts to curb school benefits.
In California, schools don't ask a student's immigration status when they apply for admission. They are allowed to apply for lower in-state tuition rates, but are not eligible for state and federal financial aid benefits.
On the other hand, some states are pushing even harder to bar illegal immigrant students from entering their colleges and universities.
A national debate
The issue became a matter of debate recently in North Carolina. Last year, the community college system in that state chose to allow illegal immigrants into its 58 schools. Under a previous policy, the decision was left to individual campuses.
The change was supported by Gov. Mike Easley, but it provoked heavy criticism ---- especially from the leading candidates running to replace the outgoing governor. That led the community college system to seek an opinion from the state attorney general's office on whether the admissions policy was legal under federal law.
Attorney General Roy Cooper's office recommended the community colleges drop the lenient admissions policy, and suggested they follow stricter guidelines under which illegal immigrants were not eligible for a public post-secondary education.
Both Easley and the community college system asked Cooper's office to seek formal guidance from federal authorities.
Federal immigration officials last month released a statement saying there is no law prohibiting the state from educating illegal immigrants at public colleges and universities.
Another state that is cracking down on illegal immigrant students is South Carolina, where Gov. Mark Sanford signed a bill Wednesday that bans illegal immigrants from attending public colleges.
William Gheen, who heads Americans for Legal Immigration, an anti-illegal immigration group based in North Carolina, said he hopes other states follow South Carolina's example.
"The momentum for immigration enforcement is clear in the states," Gheen said.
The South Carolina law is one of several passed by states in recent years. The other states include Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia and Colorado.
Arizona's law, approved by voters through a ballot measure in 2006, prohibits illegal immigrants from paying the less expensive in-state tuition rates. To attend a state school, they must pay the heftier out-of-state-fees.
Remove the incentive
Gheen said that a major reason why illegal immigrants come to the country is to give their children access to U.S. schools.
"We must turn off all incentives for illegal aliens, and access to American colleges is clearly an incentive for illegal alien families to come here," Gheen said.
In 1994, voters in California passed one of the harshest anti-illegal immigration laws, Proposition 187, which would have barred illegal immigrant children from attending all public schools. The law was ruled largely unconstitutional.
Last year, Schwarzenegger vetoed the California Dream Act, saying that extending benefits to illegal immigrant students would put further strains on the state's budget.
Given the state's multibillion-dollar budget deficit this year, the governor is likely to veto the bill again if it makes it to his desk.
However, some local Latino professors say not educating these students may create problems down the line and waste their valuable talents.
Gheen said advocates for illegal immigrant rights are using children to further their goals.
"I find it particularly distasteful that in their desperation they are using children as pawns," Gheen said. "They are playing on Americans' sympathies to get what they want."
Palomar College Professor John Valdez disagreed. He said he sees students' disappointment every day.
"I have encountered students that are bright and talented, but who become frustrated because they can't continue their education," Valdez said. "And it's depriving the country of these bright and talented people."
More idiocy from the same people who don’t know how to solve the budget crisis.
No wonder California is bankrupt!!
When given the choice to vote the people of California will not support this. It is the democratic legislator that push this stuff and the Democratic voters even those who don’t want aid for illegals that let them get by with it.
I guess if Kalifornians don’t mind paying taxes to pay for the education of Mexican nationals this is no big deal.
The deal is that the 85% of the illegal aliens who hail from a single country (generally reputed to be Mexico) will get in-state tuition.
The 85% of legally admitted (with a visa) foreign students who come from South and East Asia will continue to be offered Out Of State tuition rates only - just like American citizens who happen to live in other states.
Someday these pukes will get over it, but it's obviously not going to be soon.
Personally, I’d be willing to give California back to Mexico provided they provide cheap labor to build a wall seperating themselves from the Continental USA :)....
And give up the water.
Financially; socially/culturally; politically; morally; analytically; spiritually; patriotically, judicially; and probably some ways I haven't thought of.
vaudine
Well....gotta keep all those teachers, profs, administrators busy doing SOMETHING!!!
How’s that budget lookin’ there, Cali?
We have to change the illegal immigration trend, or we will sink further into financial failure, not even mentioning the environmental stress these people cause...
Let them foot the bill and build a fence around so-cal.
Can anybody enroll in a California CC without a SSN?
A message to all you conservatives living in Kalifornia.You might want to have your BUG OUT plan ready to go.
you got that right.
people can say what they will about ahnuld, but the governator is the only guy standing between us and liberal nirvana, err, chaos.
what i don’t understand is why the illegals can’t find places at the university of mexico city, assuming they are so talented? i believe tuition in mexico is far cheaper.
I’ve checked and it’s true, as far as Illegals go, only the Hispanics get in state tuition.
In a 15 minute drive down Van Nuys Blvd. here in Los Angeles last Friday I counted 16 baby carriages loaded with anchor babies. Many Mexicans walk to the stores because they can’t get a drivers license.
There were almost as many old Mexicans in Electric Wheel Chairs, What’s up with that?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Ahhhh come on! You don’t think they ae coming here for no reason do you? California has it’s own SS system for illegal immigrants set up and paid for with our tax dollars. Just drag Grandma across the border and sign her up!
http://www.cdss.ca.gov/cdssweb/PG42.htm
ping
The sole distinguishing requirement is that you be in the country illegally.
Then you get money.
When the top Democrat in the state, Art Torres, says that a failed effort to eliminate ILLEGAL aliens (my description) from all the taxpayer-paid goodies was “the last gasp of white America in California” — and furthermore credits Mexicorruption (my word) with being key for the defeat of “white Americans” — then it should be obvious: Mexican citizens living here and some politically powerful “Americans” are 100% beholden to Mexicorruption and they govern California (more or less).
Don’t feel bad. Most people think I am insane when I tell them about it.
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