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UK Labour Party: Communities Secretary, says sidelining of Christianity is 'common sense'
The Telegraph ^ | 6/9/2008 | George Pitcher and Jonathan Wynne-Jones

Posted on 06/08/2008 11:56:30 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

It is "common sense" for Christianity to be sidelined at the expense of Islam, a Government minister claimed on Sunday [and that] that more money and effort was spent on Islam than Christianity because of the threat from extremism and home-grown terrorism.

Hazel Blears, the Communities Secretary, defended Labour’s policy on religion after a report backed by the Church of England claimed that Muslims receive a disproportionate amount of attention.

Ms Blears told BBC Radio 4’s Sunday programme: “That’s just common sense. If we’ve got an issue where we have to build resilience of young Muslim men and women to withstand an extremist message.”

She added: “We live in a secular democracy. That’s a precious thing. We don’t live in a theocracy, but we’ve always accepted that hundreds of thousands of people are motivated by faith. We live in a secular democracy but we want to recognise the role of faith.”

The Church of England bishop responsible for the report, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, Bishop for Urban Life and Faith, said afterwards: “She said we live in a secular democracy. That comes as news to me – we have an established Church, but the Government can’t deal with Christianity.”

As The Daily Telegraph reported on Saturday, the landmark report commissioned by the Church and written by academics at the Von Hugel Institute accuses ministers of paying only “lip service” to Christianity and marginalising the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches, while focusing “intently” on Islam.

However Malaysia’s Prime Minister warned yesterday that Muslim extremism in Britain will grow unless the Government and society learn to understand Islam.

Abdullah Badawi claimed that the legacy of Britain’s imperial past has hampered its ability to appreciate its Islamic population.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, the prime minister urged Gordon Brown to allow the country’s Muslims to live under Islamic law, but also said that they must prove their worth to society.

Mr Abdullah argues that the Government must do more to ensure Muslims do not feel discriminated against if it is to tackle the rise of radicalism.

“The failure to understand Muslims is driving a divide between the communities,” he said.

“Gordon Brown must encourage a better understanding because Britain must appreciate its Muslims.”

Mr Abdullah argued that Britain needs to come to terms with being home to immigrants from countries that it used to rule over.

“The British Empire expanded in Asia, everywhere, throughout the Muslim land, through the land of Hindus and the land of Buddhists.

“When they were ruling it was different because they wanted it to be peaceful and to keep it peaceful they had to use diplomacy.”

He said that Muslims in Britain were more likely to be radicalised because they feel ignored rather than due to religious reasons.

“Is it because of poverty, social unrest, deprivation, feeling discriminated against, thinking people don’t care much because of the colour of their skin?”

Mr Abdullah, who was talking on the eve of a landmark summit of world leaders, echoed the calls of the Archbishop of Canterbury earlier this year for Muslims to be able to live under sharia.

The Malaysian Prime Minister also acknowledged that Muslims must also play their part in proving their value as immigrants.

“If they want to be respected then they must do something for the community,” he said.

“They must not be a liability. They have to be an asset.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creepingsharia; creepingshariah; indoctrination; islam; koran; muslim; muslimfeelings; muslims; pc; politicalcorrectness; quran; sharia; shariah

1 posted on 06/08/2008 11:56:30 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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"However Malaysia’s Prime Minister warned yesterday that Muslim extremism in Britain will grow unless the Government and society learn to understand Islam."

If the government understood it, they'd be working 24/7 to drive them out of civilized Europe before they turn into a 3rd world hellhole from the Dark Ages.

2 posted on 06/09/2008 12:00:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: bruinbirdman

Ah ha! So blackmail does work after all.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 12:20:08 AM PDT by pankot
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To: bruinbirdman
"“If they want to be respected then they must do something for the community,” he said. "

Yeah, like not blowing it up.

4 posted on 06/09/2008 12:21:25 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Better a rhino than a jackass....sigh.....)
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To: pankot

It doesn’t sound to me as if it’s working too well. I’d be more inclined to say the jury is still out. But if history is a reliable teacher, I’m leaning toward the negative.


5 posted on 06/09/2008 12:26:37 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: singfreedom

England is dead. I think we best clear off all the nukes it has before they fall into the wrong hands.


6 posted on 06/09/2008 1:00:28 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bruinbirdman

“Muslims in Britain were more likely to be radicalised because they feel ignored”.

You see.
They really have the mentality of 12 year old girls.


7 posted on 06/09/2008 1:15:29 AM PDT by paristwelve
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To: bruinbirdman
What ignorant, pathetic, doomed fools they are:

28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him Who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matthew 10:28)

So these people will reject and discard the only One Who has the power to protect them from the demons that are taking over their nation in favor of appeasing those same demons and perhaps keeping their heads attached a little while longer.

Go ahead and "sideline" Christianity to make the Muslims happy. And enjoy your Sharia-free lives while you can. It won't last much longer.

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

8 posted on 06/09/2008 1:16:24 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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Perhaps I should start a secret underground neo-crusader christian organisation that shoots or blows up secularists, moslems, humanists, neo-pagans et al who I disagree with.

Well, judging by Blear’s statement, advocating sectarian violence seems to be the only way a faith system can get taken seriously.


9 posted on 06/09/2008 2:55:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
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It’s a mix of consciousness and grievance cult.

When you murder, you technicaly do not want to reconciliate with the murderee if you have a conscious and you want to get away with it.

Then you will be overtly conscious of your murderous intent and spiral, you will be overtly conscious that you may get caught and you start to wish to belong to some kind of majority which will bully a minority of christians to extinction.

Add to this a dash of traitorism, cowardice, blackmail, sexual deviancy, drug addictions, apathy, depression, immaturity, fantasy of importance and grown up feelings as well as outright wish to hide your racist race consciousness, and you got the stuff of UK labor and Obama daycare level love fest dragging the west to its suicide.

Liberalism as a mental disorder is an understatement, imo.


10 posted on 06/09/2008 3:57:45 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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I guess what we need are more kick-ass Christians who threaten strife and civil disorder unless their demands are met.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 4:11:55 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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The last infidel out of jolly olde England..

turn out the lights..


12 posted on 06/09/2008 4:31:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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The Church of England bishop responsible for the report, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, Bishop for Urban Life and Faith, said afterwards: “She said we live in a secular democracy. That comes as news to me – we have an established Church, but the Government can’t deal with Christianity.”

Give praise to our Founders who decreed no 'Established Church'. We are having problems enough with our own "Freedom of Religion" being revised into a militant "Freedom from Religion" by radical atheists and statists. Imagine these same idiots having a say in a government-controlled church.

13 posted on 06/09/2008 5:31:14 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Perhaps Ms. Bleer thinks that surrendering to jihadists altogether, will make their intentions less lethal..


14 posted on 06/09/2008 9:04:32 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

With Lucas electrics, there will be no need..


15 posted on 06/09/2008 9:06:03 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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