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Actor Omar Sharif: "The Middle east Will Never Be Democratized"
FOX News, MEMRI-TV ^ | 6/9/08 | FOX News

Posted on 06/09/2008 11:40:19 AM PDT by hoagy62

Egyptian actor Omar Sharif — best known for his film roles in Lawrence of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago — reportedly blasted U.S. policy in Iraq and said Americans are ignorant.

According to The Middle East Media Research Institute, Sharif said the "East" will never have a democracy because people like him "prefer to go to the neighborhood sheik." MEMRI —a Middle Eastern press monitoring organization — posted an interview of Sharif that aired on the Al-Hayat TV network.

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Sharif said that he spoke with President Bush before the beginning of the Iraq War and told him that Arab nations are made up of sects resistant to becoming democratized.

"I said to Bush, even before he entered Iraq: Forget about all that. We, the Arabs... We are not like [regular countries]," said Sharif. "You will drown there.

After being asked what Bush's response was, the actor stated: "He didn't believe me."

1 posted on 06/09/2008 11:40:24 AM PDT by hoagy62
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To: hoagy62

posted here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027918/posts


2 posted on 06/09/2008 11:42:28 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: hoagy62

“He knew that that well was mine.”


3 posted on 06/09/2008 11:42:28 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: hoagy62

I love the media.

“Let’s ask a washed-up actor for his opinions on the future of the middle east!”

Even if he is correct, who cares what Omar has to say? Let’s ask Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon and the creep from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.


4 posted on 06/09/2008 11:42:40 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: hoagy62

Hmm. He must have overlooked Israel!


5 posted on 06/09/2008 11:43:18 AM PDT by saganite
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To: hoagy62

The credentials of this bridge player are primarily that He is not a Republican President.


6 posted on 06/09/2008 11:44:31 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: hoagy62
To accept this type of thinking is to buy into some genetically-based racist view of people from the Middle East. I don't buy it.

Everyone started out as a tribe of some kind. Look at the German barbarians, or the Celts of France and Britain. Naked tribesmen going off to war, coming back with severed heads. Later on, they produced Goethe, Beethoven and Shakepeare.

The Arabs have spent too long in the 8th century, but they are not condemned to be there forever. They just need to be shown the way forward.

7 posted on 06/09/2008 11:44:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: hoagy62
screw sharif and the camel he rode in on. Perhaps he is right... perhaps arabs are too stupid NOT to have someone controlling their every move.

LLS

8 posted on 06/09/2008 11:46:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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To: hoagy62
The man has a point. Real secular democracy is anathema to mainstream Islam.
9 posted on 06/09/2008 11:48:27 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Seems to me he has been proved dead wrong..since a vast majority of the people in Iraq and Afghanistan turned out for the elections. Higher than here. The insurgents and terrorists are still in the vast minority and dying fast.
There is no lack of interest in democracy in these places, but there sure is in Hollywood and DC.
So if you think democracy is a bad deal for you..I’ll give you a list of hell holes that operate by your rules.
Ingrate.


10 posted on 06/09/2008 11:49:12 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: hoagy62

What’s Omar trying to say? That the Arabs are too primitive and barbaric to live like civilized human beings?


11 posted on 06/09/2008 11:50:01 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: LibLieSlayer

Let’s nuke from orbit, just to make sure...


12 posted on 06/09/2008 11:51:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ClearCase_guy
"They just need to be shown the way forward. "

And that means what? Abandon the murderous, ideological cult they have embraced for centuries? Good luck with that.

13 posted on 06/09/2008 11:51:33 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: hoagy62
I believe him and agree with him. There is something fundamentally wrong with muslims. They are not capable of living in an open and free society. Nor should they be forced to.
14 posted on 06/09/2008 11:52:16 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
No. But mainstream Moslems are.
15 posted on 06/09/2008 11:53:03 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: hoagy62
Omar Sharif was born Michel Shalhoub in Alexandria, Egypt and raised a Roman Catholic by his wealthy parents who sent him to the elite Victoria College boarding school.

He converted to Islam when he was 23 and changed his name so that his Egyptian celebrity wife would not lose popularity.

He's spent most of his adult life in England and France. He now claims to be an atheist.

16 posted on 06/09/2008 11:53:51 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Oldexpat
The turnout in the Iraq elections should dispel this theory.
17 posted on 06/09/2008 11:54:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Resolute Conservative

“Let’s nuke from orbit, just to make sure...”

That would be my first thought as well.


18 posted on 06/09/2008 11:56:06 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: ClearCase_guy
Everyone started out as a tribe of some kind. Look at the German barbarians, or the Celts of France and Britain. Naked tribesmen going off to war, coming back with severed heads. Later on, they produced Goethe, Beethoven and Shakepeare.

Outstanding point! If you don't mind I'm going to save that paragraph and use it in the future. I would like to add the tribes of Israel.

So what was the force that changed this tribalism into something else? I would say it was Greek Philosophy and scientific method combined with Judeo/Christian values.
19 posted on 06/09/2008 11:57:48 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

No, he is trying to say that so long as one arab fights another, they will be a small people, greedy, barbarous and cruel. . . or something to that effect.


20 posted on 06/09/2008 11:58:19 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: hoagy62

I’d bet that the USA net work Monk actor would agree with him too. Looks like they have the same last names and same roots.


21 posted on 06/09/2008 11:59:11 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where have all our Great Leaders gone? Certainly there must be one out there?)
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“After being asked what Bush's response was, the actor stated: “He didn't believe me.”

I don't either. If he is talking about people who hold power, yes. They will always say, “this the ways we have always been. This is the way it will always be.”

But I believe the individual, regardless of ethnic background, yearns to be free of domination, to have control to some degree of his future, to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

In Iraq, it may take a generation to weed out the old mind-set and allow a new, democracy minded leadership arise.

22 posted on 06/09/2008 12:00:34 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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""I lived in America for a long time. Only 10% of all Americans have a passport. In other words, 90% never left America," said Sharif. "They don't know anything. Americans are ignorant."

Sorry, but I'm not gonna take that sh*t from some washed-up, has-been of an actor, who's only achievment in life is making others believe that what is in fact fantasy, real.

23 posted on 06/09/2008 12:02:29 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Oldexpat
Remember, Iraqis are not Arabs. They are Persians. Arabs, however, have an almost genetic hatred of anything Western or associated with Israel's existence. It is going to take an Act of God to get a 2x4 big enough to overcome their hatred on steroids.

Persians, however, not only respected other cultures, but promoted the scientific advances and learning. They knew enough to send three wise guys when Jesus was born from what they had learned through Jews in Persia. Keep in mind, also, that Arabs are not among the great civilizations of the past, Saladin notwithstanding.

24 posted on 06/09/2008 12:04:36 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Joiseydude

I believe he’s dead, Jim.


25 posted on 06/09/2008 12:05:33 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yeah! Screw that guy even though he might be right! I mean, who’s he to disagree with Bush! The nerve!

Actually, I think that arab countries can be democratized. But, it’s going to take two generations to get these people thinking on their own.


26 posted on 06/09/2008 12:05:42 PM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Muslim and Arab are not the same thing.


27 posted on 06/09/2008 12:07:38 PM PDT by DB
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To: hoagy62

The man is right.

The best we can hpe for is to make sure we put Sheiks in power we can trust.

Islam and democracy are incompatible.

So is Islam and civilization.

Too bad Shariff converted from the faith of his ancestors to a murderous cult - but then that’s life under Islam.


28 posted on 06/09/2008 12:08:02 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: prolifefirst
“He knew that that well was mine.”

A great scene. Very telling, as well.

29 posted on 06/09/2008 12:10:36 PM PDT by MJemison
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
>>>>>>What’s Omar trying to say? That the Arabs are too primitive and barbaric to live like civilized human beings?

Sharif is saying that Arab's don't want to live under democratic rule. He's got a point.

IMO, I think the entire ME --- minus Israel --- exists in a vacuum more in tune with the 7th century AD, then modern times. Any efforts to bring democracy to the Islamic world is a futile.

30 posted on 06/09/2008 12:11:38 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: hoagy62
I agree. I thought Pres. Bush's idea of bringing democracy to the Middle East was a bad one when I heard it. We want a stable Middle east with rulers favorable to our interests. That would be my foreign policy.
31 posted on 06/09/2008 12:11:47 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: hoagy62
“Sharif said that he spoke with President Bush before the beginning of the Iraq War and told him that Arab nations are made up of sects resistant to becoming democratized.”

I think Sharif is correct. Muslims hate modern western values, and thereby hate Christians and Jews. They would much prefer to wallow in their hateful religion and medieval Sharai law. By the way, there is no such thing as a “moderate Muslim”. We here in the U.S. need to get past that notion. Even Muslims who are professionals working for our most progressive corporations and who live here in the most upscale suburban areas hate our guts and covertly support terrorist organizations.

32 posted on 06/09/2008 12:12:26 PM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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Sharif said that he spoke with President Bush before the beginning of the Iraq War and told him that Arab nations are made up of sects resistant to becoming democratized.
"I said to Bush, even before he entered Iraq: Forget about all that. We, the Arabs... We are not like [regular countries]," said Sharif. "You will drown there.

I lived in the middle east for close to 5 years. What Sharif says is true - very true. Muslims (Arabs) are happy being told what to do, when to do it and not to think for themselves. They are "Group Think" and their leaders get their marching orders from the few leaders who can think for themselves and those people see EVERYTHING as us against "poor little them".
As long as we allow our politicians to treat them as responsible adults we will continue to lose. If we let our Military deal with them, unfettered by political correctness, we can easily stomp them into little pools of slime.
33 posted on 06/09/2008 12:13:36 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
What’s Omar trying to say? That the Arabs are too primitive and barbaric to live like civilized human beings?

Yes.

ABSOLUTELY


Haven't you learned anything from history?
34 posted on 06/09/2008 12:13:36 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: hoagy62

What a bunch of racist crap. If you raise slaves, you get slaves. If you raise free people, you get free people.


35 posted on 06/09/2008 12:19:34 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: hoagy62

What does Omar Sharif know about the concerns and frustrations of young Arabs in some slum in Cairo or Gaza City? No doubt he spends most of his time jetting around Europe or visiting some deposed king’s palacial mansion. He probably gets gets his Middle East news from CNN and Rosie O’Donnell just like most other people in the West.


36 posted on 06/09/2008 12:21:51 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: isrul

Then we lose.


37 posted on 06/09/2008 12:23:26 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: hoagy62

He’s right.


38 posted on 06/09/2008 12:24:40 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Pretty much sums up what T.E. Lawrence said about the Arabs after WW I.


39 posted on 06/09/2008 12:25:21 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: hoagy62

I find advie from a bridge-playing-professional-story-teller difficult to take.

I also think he is dead wrong.


40 posted on 06/09/2008 12:28:47 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: hoagy62

Famous quotes:

“Man will never fly”

“The earth is flat”

“The sun revolves around the earth”

“Pelosi is an intelligent woman”

gee none of these ended up being true. */scarasm


41 posted on 06/09/2008 12:29:03 PM PDT by stockpirate (McCain betrayed his conservative roots, conservatives, his party and America.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Remember, Iraqis are not Arabs. They are Persians...

Um, you mean Iranians are Persians.
Iraqis are indeed Arabs.


42 posted on 06/09/2008 12:31:04 PM PDT by serbami68 (!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

:-) Loved that movie!

LLS


43 posted on 06/09/2008 12:31:10 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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To: onedoug
Yes. we do.
44 posted on 06/09/2008 12:31:13 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: DB
Muslim and Arab are not the same thing.

I never said they were. It's the muslims who have the biggest problem with democracy. They didn't even have a word for it until just over 100 years ago.

45 posted on 06/09/2008 12:32:48 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Doohickey

sharif is a pos racist.

LLS


46 posted on 06/09/2008 12:33:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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To: Joiseydude
Sorry, just checked. I thought I remembered he had passed, but evidently that report was “greatly exaggerated”. Apologies — mostly to him.
47 posted on 06/09/2008 12:34:36 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: ClearCase_guy
Let us not forget that during the French Revolution in the late 18th century, ordinary men tore bodies to bits and we have documented cases of severed heads being tossed and men biting a chunk out of the hearts of the deceased to the roar of the crowd.

There is a very thin veneer between civilization and barbarism. Arabs are no different from the rest of us in this regard. You show me Egypt, I will show you Dubai.

I've often been told that the Chinese are incapable of even the most modest forms of republican government. The evolution of Taiwan from dictatorship to one of the most democratic society in Asia alone proves this to be wrong.

48 posted on 06/09/2008 12:36:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: hoagy62
I am so sick of people who do not understand democracy:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed”

Every time some CommieLib(TM) bubble head claims some group cannot follow our style of government, we just need to ask them what part of the Declaration of Independence do you not understand ???

49 posted on 06/09/2008 12:48:27 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic one Post at a Time)
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To: hoagy62

Of course the Mideast will never be democratized. As long as it is run by muslims they never will have a legitimate government since they believe government to be evil.


50 posted on 06/09/2008 12:49:16 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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