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Bush Inks Order On Immigrant Workers
CBS News ^ | 6/9/08

Posted on 06/09/2008 11:46:57 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

President Bush has signed an executive order requiring contractors and others who do business with the federal government to make sure their employees can legally work in the United States.

Mr. Bush signed the order Friday and the White House announced the order Monday.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez planned an afternoon news conference to discuss the order and other ways the administration has stepped up its crackdown on illegal immigration.

The order says federal departments and agencies must require contractors to use an electronic system to verify that the workers are eligible to work in the U.S.

The order is aimed at cracking down on hiring of illegal immigrants. But people who overstayed visas or came to the country legally but do not have permission to work, such as some students or those awaiting work permits, also could be snagged with the system.

"It is the policy of the executive branch to enforce fully the immigration laws of the United States, including the detection and removal of illegal aliens and the imposition of legal sanctions against employers that hire illegal aliens," in the executive order says.

The order comes as a worker verification bill has essentially stalled in Congress. A Democratic immigration enforcement bill would require employers to check the citizenship and legal status of all their employees.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; blamebushfirst; bush; employers; illegal; illegalinvasion; immigrantlist; immigration; ourmexicanpresidente; presidentbush; work
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1 posted on 06/09/2008 11:46:58 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

Why in the hell was this not 7.5 years ago? Tell us George!!!


2 posted on 06/09/2008 11:49:27 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Dawnsblood

“The order is aimed at cracking down on hiring of illegal immigrants. But people who overstayed visas or came to the country legally but do not have permission to work, such as some students or those awaiting work permits, also could be snagged with the system.”

In other words it might work and properly catch those it should.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 11:51:21 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (We're all mavericks now.)
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To: politicalwit
Exactly! Kind of late. Of course McCain will apologize for this Executive Order as soon as he can find a camera and a mike!
4 posted on 06/09/2008 11:53:28 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: politicalwit
George: "Because I campaigned on comprehensive immigration reform."

Just sayin'. No need for hysterics.

5 posted on 06/09/2008 12:01:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dawnsblood; jveritas
"It is the policy of the executive branch to enforce fully the immigration laws of the United States, including the detection and removal of illegal aliens and the imposition of legal sanctions against employers that hire illegal aliens," in the executive order says.

Excellent!

But Freepers say.... "Whahahaaaaaaaa not fast enough, you didn't jump when we said jump... doesn't matter now.... too late... make it go away... I don't want it now..."

Just sayin'

6 posted on 06/09/2008 12:20:10 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Dawnsblood

The “electronic system” had better be right.
And the employer can only input the information that the immigrant gives him. The employer is not a police force.
I fear that the burden and cost will come down on the employer, not on the government where it belongs.


7 posted on 06/09/2008 12:23:52 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Dawnsblood

“It is the policy of the executive branch to enforce fully the immigration laws of the United States . . . “

Policy. Constitutional duty. Oath of office.
Whatever.....


8 posted on 06/09/2008 12:32:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (I was hit by lightning, a `lightning bug'--whatever)
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To: avacado
But Freepers say.... "Whahahaaaaaaaa not fast enough, you didn't jump when we said jump... doesn't matter now.... too late... make it go away... I don't want it now..."

What a bozo. But, not expected from someone who's willfully ignorant of the actions Bush has taken during the last 7 years to encourage and reward illegal aliens crossing our borders.

And no, I won't detail for you what Bush has done. If you want to know, you can do your own research.

And if you have to do research to find out what Bush has done, then this proves you haven't been paying attention.

9 posted on 06/09/2008 12:36:38 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"What a bozo. But, not expected from someone who's willfully ignorant of the actions Bush has taken during the last 7 years to encourage and reward illegal aliens crossing our borders.

And no, I won't detail for you what Bush has done.."

You are Bozo, I are not Bozo.

Bush had always been for comprehensive immigration reform. That you missed that is your fault for not paying attention. The fact that Bush is now doing what we, and YOU, want and YOU are crying is just pitiful...

10 posted on 06/09/2008 12:49:08 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

There’s a lot of selective amnesia going around these days. There was a bunch of it on one of the ANWR threads today.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 12:54:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"There’s a lot of selective amnesia going around these days. There was a bunch of it on one of the ANWR threads today."

Sure enough.

12 posted on 06/09/2008 12:56:56 PM PDT by avacado
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks
“The order is aimed at cracking down on hiring of illegal immigrants.

No, the order is aimed at trying to enthuse Republican voters before the elections, nothing more, nothing less.

It's just like the Oct 2006 bill to build the fence that was promptly ignored.

13 posted on 06/09/2008 12:57:22 PM PDT by RJL
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To: RJL

Unless you tell me otherwise, my understanding is that the funding for the Secure Fence Act was gutted by Congress. You need to focus.


14 posted on 06/09/2008 1:01:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: avacado

If you like government that is slow and ineffective I guess you’ve got plenty to cheer about. ;^)


15 posted on 06/09/2008 1:21:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The “electronic system” had better be right. And the employer can only input the information that the immigrant gives him. The employer is not a police force. I fear that the burden and cost will come down on the employer, not on the government where it belongs.

We have had NICS for gun purchases for years now. Takes five minutes. Real tough problem.

16 posted on 06/09/2008 1:23:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: tumblindice
“It is the policy of the executive branch to enforce fully the immigration laws of the United States . . . “

Policy. Constitutional duty. Oath of office. Whatever.....

They're more like guidelines than actual rules.


17 posted on 06/09/2008 1:30:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged; TigersEye

” The employer is not a police force. I fear that the burden and cost will come down on the employer, not on the government where it belongs.”

I find that stunning. Are you saying an employer has no social/LEGAL responsibility to hire legal, non criminal employees instead of those the rest of us are forced to subsidize on their behalf? Even slave owners had to be responsible for their slaves.


18 posted on 06/09/2008 1:31:11 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: TigersEye
"If you like government that is slow and ineffective I guess you’ve got plenty to cheer about. ;^)"

Do you know of any other type of government? ;-)

19 posted on 06/09/2008 1:35:30 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado; Ol' Dan Tucker

“Bush had always been for comprehensive immigration reform. That you missed that is your fault for not paying attention. The fact that Bush is now doing what we, and YOU, want and YOU are crying is just pitiful... “

Oh, yes, that old worn out tirade. You know, we assumed (wrongly!) that Bush or anyone one else with a brain would do something about the border after 9/11. Because you didn’t is YOUR problem. And I didn’t vote for him the first time because he was a squishy moderate.


20 posted on 06/09/2008 1:36:01 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: avacado
Bush had always been for comprehensive immigration reform. That you missed that is your fault for not paying attention. The fact that Bush is now doing what we, and YOU, want and YOU are crying is just pitiful...

Had you been around before 2006, you would have known that I didn't just find this out.

Had you been around in 2004, you would have seen my posts deriding Bush's Social Security Totalization Agreemement with Mexico that would allow Mexican illegal aliens (and their family back home in Mexico) collect US Social Security benefits for the time they worked illegally in the US.

Had you been around in 2001, you would have read all about the Partnership for Prosperity Agreement (with Mexico) that paved the way for the New Alliance Task Force in 2003, which relaxed banking regulations to allow Mexican illegal aliens, using only a Matricula Consular card as ID to obtain US bank accounts, credit cards, auto, home and business loans.

Just where do you think caused the sub-prime lending meltdown, US citizens? No, it was Bush's true constituents, the Mexican illegal aliens.

Go back to sleep, avacado (sic).

21 posted on 06/09/2008 1:36:14 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Well if you knew all that then why are you crying now that he is cracking down and building a fence? Your logic makes no sense.


22 posted on 06/09/2008 1:39:35 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

No matter what President Bush does on the illegal immigration issue most on this forum will not be satisfied they want a total solution and they want it now. President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years but most here will never give him credit for this.


23 posted on 06/09/2008 1:40:25 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: avacado
I haven't seen any other kind of government. That doesn't mean I celebrate it.

W may have campaigned on "comprehensive immigration reform" in 2000 but 9/11 should have been enough reason to reevaluate his priorities. Being tied to a policy with iron chains because he campaigned on it is not leadership or principled action. Not when circumstances radically change. That's just pride or lack of vision.

24 posted on 06/09/2008 1:49:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: avacado

“Well if you knew all that then why are you crying now that he is cracking down and building a fence? Your logic makes no sense.”

How many miles of double layer fence has actually been built?


25 posted on 06/09/2008 1:49:31 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: avacado
Well if you knew all that then why are you crying now that he is cracking down and building a fence? Your logic makes no sense.

It makes no sense because you've been asleep for the last seven years, avacado (sic).

Had you been around way back then you would have been able to read my many long-winded posts deriding Bush's actions every step of the way.

That he waited until his last year in office to actually enforce our immigration laws only tells me that this is an election-year tactic.

When Bush was pushing his so-called CIR, all the good lick-spittles, such as yourself, were claiming that our immigration laws were unenforceable and that this was the reason why we needed to pass the McCain/Kennedy CIR. Now, suddenly, and without CIR, Bush is enforcing the laws his lick-spittles said was unenforceable.

26 posted on 06/09/2008 1:51:19 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: avacado

What fence? Give me some of those mushrooms you’re eating. I want to see things that aren’t there too.


27 posted on 06/09/2008 1:51:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: antisocial
"How many miles of double layer fence has actually been built?"

I dunno. In Texas they are still fighting land owners and as a Conservative it does give me an uneasy feeling seeing the Feds grab private land.

28 posted on 06/09/2008 1:52:52 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas
President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years but most here will never give him credit for this.

If you count amnesty for 20 million illegals. Name something else.

29 posted on 06/09/2008 1:53:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye
"What fence?"

That's what the illegals say when they see those cheap fences right before they snip through them: "What fence... snip, snip..."

30 posted on 06/09/2008 1:55:12 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado
I dunno. In Texas they are still fighting land owners...

That leaves about 2/3s of the border where there is no land dispute and no fence.

Next excuse!?!

31 posted on 06/09/2008 1:56:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: jveritas

“President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years . . .”
Oh boy—a categorical statement, so it’s either true or false!
Let’s see, shall we?
http://w3.agsfoundation.com/press/release/43

“enforcement of immigration laws during the first five years of the Bush Administration is down 30% from the last five years of the Clinton Administration, despite an increase in border personnel.”

All those lies will cross your eyes.


32 posted on 06/09/2008 1:56:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (McCain and Obama to address La Raza. "No comment." Grand Dragon of the KKK)
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To: jveritas
President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years but most here will never give him credit for this.

Just outside the window that includes Eisenhower, I notice.

Does this include giving US Social Security benefits to Mexican illegal aliens and their families back home in Mexico?

Does this include sending billions of US dollars to Mexico for economic development and infrastructure?

Does this include relaxing the banking rules to allow Mexican illegal aliens to use Matricula Consular cards as ID to obtain US bank accounts, credit cards, auto, home and business loans, which resulted in the current sub-prime meltdown?

Does that include the lowest level of immigration enforcement ever seen under any administration, democrat or republican?

Please, tell us all of the great things Bush has done during his time in office to fix the illegal alien problem because all I've seen him do is to make a bigger mess of it.

33 posted on 06/09/2008 1:57:10 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: jveritas

The “fix” was the problem...........


34 posted on 06/09/2008 1:58:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: TigersEye
" Next excuse!?! "

The fence is being built now. Yes, No?

Next excuse/whine

35 posted on 06/09/2008 2:01:42 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado
The fence is being built now. Yes, No?

There's a fence is being built? Where? Specifically.

Please cite the news article containing the details of the construction and exactly when it was started and how much has been built to date.

36 posted on 06/09/2008 2:06:23 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: avacado
The fence is being built now? How much? How long has it taken to get it started? How much has been built compared to how much could be built? Honest answers to those questions lead to one conclusion; the fence is being stalled as long as possible.

There are a lot of excuses for stupidity, incompetence and corruption in government. What excuse is there for making excuses for it?

37 posted on 06/09/2008 2:07:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Unless you tell me otherwise, my understanding is that the funding for the Secure Fence Act was gutted by Congress. You need to focus.

You need to refocus on what I wrote. This is a pathetic move to revive Republican voters for the up coming elections, nothing more, nothing less.

This EO has nothing to do with illegal aliens or our borders. The only reason I spoke of the Oct 2006 pre election fence bill was to show that we’ve been here before and we came away with nothing, just as we’ll get no action from this EO.

The bureaucracy will drag their heels and pretend to be working on putting this EO into effect until McCain or Obama take office and immediately rescind the EO.

Net effect? None, only time and money wasted pretending to do comply with the EO.

38 posted on 06/09/2008 2:07:47 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
In Texas there is a big land grab going on by the Feds. That is the beginning of the building process. Sheeze... and how do you feel about the Fed grabbing privately owned land?

Texas Border Fence

39 posted on 06/09/2008 2:10:59 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas
President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years but most here will never give him credit for this.

True, he fought harder for the Mexican government and amnesty for their illegal aliens than he fought for any other domestic issue during his presidency.

That's not the "fix" America was looking for.

40 posted on 06/09/2008 2:13:13 PM PDT by RJL
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To: TigersEye

It’s really amusing, isn’t it?
These hard-core GOP/open border shills sagely advising against hysterics, while posting photos of crying children/admonishing against “whining”,
then trotting out that hoary old phrase: “comprehensive immigration reform” which is much like describing “Squirrel-Tooth Alice” of Dodge City, circa 1870-72, as a “soiled evening dove” when it’s so much easier to just say, well,
Alice was a whore and it’s amnesty.


41 posted on 06/09/2008 2:19:19 PM PDT by tumblindice (Do we really have to bicker over who killed who?)
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To: avacado
In Texas there is a big land grab going on by the Feds. That is the beginning of the building process. Sheeze... and how do you feel about the Fed grabbing privately owned land?

So, I guess the answer to your question about whether there's a fence (actually) being built is "No".

There is no fence actually being built right now.

How do you feel about all the things Bush has done to encourage and reward illegal aliens for the last seven years?

42 posted on 06/09/2008 2:20:23 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: politicalwit

bitch bitch bich..........

Bitcons are never pleased. Only Christ like perfection will do. Life as a Bitcon is misery


43 posted on 06/09/2008 2:20:58 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

What have you been smoking?


44 posted on 06/09/2008 2:22:27 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: tumblindice
Alice was a whore and it’s amnesty.

Bush is a whore, too. The only thing we don't yet know is who's paying/paid him for his services.

45 posted on 06/09/2008 2:22:42 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: tumblindice

LOL Amusing and amazing. So much effort put into apologetics for policies that are destroying our country. The willing suspension of honesty to provide cover for bad policies and dereliction of duty is astounding too.


46 posted on 06/09/2008 2:24:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye
The willing suspension of honesty to provide cover for bad policies and dereliction of duty is astounding too.

It is an election year, after all.

47 posted on 06/09/2008 2:27:24 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: jveritas
President Bush did more to address and try to fix the illegal immigration than any other President in last 40 years but most here will never give him credit for this.

I'm a little puzzled by your assertion.

Over the past seven months, since the 2006 election, Bush has indeed taken an activist role to enforce the employment laws and secure the border -- making substantial progress on both fronts.

However, the past seven months is the only period during his two terms that the President has taken any action whatsoever against illegal immigration.

The majority of illegal aliens in the US probably arrived here during the Bush administration. And, for seven years, there were almost no prosecutions of the employment laws. Even Clinton had a better record than Bush in this regard.

In addition, was not Bush himself was one of the major cheerleaders for McCain-Kennedy and "comprehensive immigration reform", i.e., amnesty?

Accordingly, I'd submit the Bush administration vs illegal immigration is a paradox.

1. On the one hand, it may well be that he has done more than any other President to stem the problem of illegal immigration. But that's based only on his actions over the past seven months.

2. At the same time, the illegal immigration problem probably worsened more under his tenure than any other President's.

Which is to say: You may be right. But so are his detractors.

48 posted on 06/09/2008 2:28:35 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: bert

Comparing criticism of really bad performance to requiring Christ-like perfection is a pretty lame analogy. There isn’t any truth in it.


49 posted on 06/09/2008 2:30:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

“The only thing we don’t yet know is who’s paying/paid him for his services.”

Simple answer: he’s buttering his own bread. The Bush family makes plenty money from their ties with Mexico. Old news, really. Do a web search on ‘Arbusto Energy’ some time.


50 posted on 06/09/2008 2:31:05 PM PDT by CowboyJay (There's always 2012...)
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