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Top Ten Reasons Obama Won't Release His Birth Certificate
ExurbanLeague.com ^ | June 9, 2008 | Exurban Jon

Posted on 06/09/2008 5:44:28 PM PDT by inkling

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To: bannie
This is why you need to lobby Sacramento and ask for an ID card at voting. I know the odds of it passing are low, but if the issue isn't raised, it won't be considered by attention-short state legislators.
141 posted on 06/10/2008 3:27:04 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: angelsonmyside
Wonder if Obama 'helps' his real brothers and sisters; as he is asking us to be responsible for our universal and 'collective' - or depending on audience- our spiritual - family?

Will there be a family reunion in the White House?

Yes, the more you think of the missiing pieces here; or rather, Obama's missing family; the more questions arise. Meantime; Obama's Marxist roots and inspirations are getting short shrift as well in MSM. However, the 'blogosphere is doing due dilligence'. Beyond Free Republic, and Frontpagemagazine.com; and a host of others:

(http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2325)

and another here: (http://www.usasurvival.org/ck2.22.08.html

142 posted on 06/10/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: the anti-liberal
Is that possible?

While passenger manifests are written documents, extreme doubt obtains that they would be archived for decades, so any such manifests likely do not exist today...

the infowarrior

143 posted on 06/10/2008 5:06:49 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: bannie
Wouldn't it be mandatory to show your birth certificate . . .

He travelled to Pakistan in 1981. He had to have a passport. You have to show your birth certificate to get a passport. So he has one. There must be some reason he chooses to keep it from the public.

Perhaps he is getting advice from John F(orm 180) Kerry.
144 posted on 06/10/2008 5:33:36 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: antceecee; bannie
His own father and mother’s wedding in Hawaii may not have been properly documented.  "How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to explore," Obama writes in his memoir.

It's understandable that Obama overlooks the particulars, since Ann Dunham was probably a minor when Barack Obama Sr., an already married 24-year-old, impregnated her?

Obama weighed eight pounds, two ounces when he was born on August 4, 1961 (p. 22 of Dreams from My Father), so we can assume he went close to full term, or nine months.

His parents’ marriage took place six months before his birth on February 2nd, 1961.  Nine months before Obama’s birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunham’s 18th birthday on November 29, 1960.

It appears that Barack Sr., a married man of about 24, almost certainly  impregnated a 17-year-old Dunham.

The Obama File


145 posted on 06/10/2008 5:45:58 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: roamer
These “facts” came from an email, circulating on the Internet from some Christian missionaries.

It is not true - - probability 99.8%.

146 posted on 06/10/2008 5:53:13 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: HawaiianGecko

That puts all this silliness to rest. If his mother was a natural born citizen, then so is Obama, regardless of father or location of his birth.


147 posted on 06/10/2008 6:03:01 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: Orange1998
If she is that smart she would have crushed Barack Obama long time ago. She had more money, institutional support and name recognition than any candidate in modern time and yet she lost. She was supposed to be the inevitable nominee but instead she was defeated by a virtual unknown. She is not smart and worse of all she is very unlikable.
148 posted on 06/10/2008 6:05:37 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: infowarrior

Te first step would be to find out who flew the route out of Kenya, my guess is KLM, which would retain records.


149 posted on 06/10/2008 6:33:30 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: kevkrom

Not according to the existing law at the time.


150 posted on 06/10/2008 6:35:47 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra
Te first step would be to find out who flew the route out of Kenya, my guess is KLM, which would retain records.

KLM? That's the Dutch national airline... One would think that the most logical airline flying from Nairobi in 1961 would have been BOAC (British Overseas Airline Corporation), which is no longer in existence...

the infowarrior

151 posted on 06/10/2008 6:36:41 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: usmcobra
Not according to the existing law at the time.

I doubt it. The law appears aimed at children born to naturalized citizens, not children born to natural born citizens.

This is as asinine and incorrect as those who claim that McCain isn't eligible because he was born in Panama.

152 posted on 06/10/2008 6:37:16 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: kevkrom

It would be asinine to put a Non American citizen and a Muslim into the highest office in the land during a time of war because we didn’t ensure his credentials.

He is hiding something that he doesn’t want the American people to see, something that would derail his election if exposed.

I for one reject the claim that Obama is Christian based upon which church he has been going to. If anything he is a member of the Black liberation theology that has no room in it’s dogma for Jesus Christ or God because they call for all of us to live together. In short it is Nation of Islam lite.


153 posted on 06/10/2008 6:50:22 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra
because we didn’t ensure his credentials.

His mother is a natural born U.S. citizen. That's the only credential he needs, along with being 35 years of age or more.

It's pointless to spend energy chasing this -- unless you can prove his mother wasn't a natural born citizen, you've got no case. There are much better uses of one's time.

154 posted on 06/10/2008 7:04:58 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: kevkrom
If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

the present law does not retroactively make him a citizen, however what if the Hawaii Birth Certificate says he was born in Kenya? or his father's name is not listed on the birth certificate?

rather then ignore the possibility I want to know the facts and I want the American people to know who they may elect as president.

155 posted on 06/10/2008 7:17:43 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra
Give me the full context of the law. There is no way I'll believe the law was written to exclude the children of natural born US citizens from being considered natural born US citizens unless you can cite the entire law, in context, and not just repeat a snippet of out-of-context "law" that was posted on a blog somewhere.

It makes no sense for such a law to ever have been written, so why waste the energy "tracking the story down" when there is no story in the first place?

156 posted on 06/10/2008 7:23:39 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: kevkrom; WellyP

You want me to hunt that down for you.

Perhaps you should politely ask the guy that originally posted it on this thread whose opinion you glossed over with calls for us to ignore this issue and yes it should be an issue!


157 posted on 06/10/2008 7:33:56 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: kevkrom

158 posted on 06/10/2008 7:51:20 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra
and yes it should be an issue

No, it isn't an issue. I've been "freeping" long enough to not let myself get excited over some random blog post. Especially when the theory being bandied about does not pass the "smell test", which this one fails miserably.

You are more than welcome to waste your time on this wild goose chase. I, on the other hand, am done with this topic.

159 posted on 06/10/2008 7:58:50 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: kevkrom

It is only “not an issue” because you say so.

You are assuming that I am either ignorant or mentally deficient, I want the facts laid to rest rather then locked away.


160 posted on 06/10/2008 8:03:25 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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