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Top Ten Reasons Obama Won't Release His Birth Certificate
ExurbanLeague.com ^ | June 9, 2008 | Exurban Jon

Posted on 06/09/2008 5:44:28 PM PDT by inkling

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To: angelsonmyside
"Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth"

If true, then the Hildabeast will SURELY be the VP candidate, and the "news" will be leaked out, and he will withdraw, leaving the Hildabeast as the candidate, and she'll get a black VP on the ticket to seal the deal !

LOL

51 posted on 06/09/2008 6:39:17 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: monkeyshine
Hey, maybe he’s really only 29 years old?

Or maybe he's really 10 years older than he claims and he was born in the Hawaiian Territories ... but not the State of Hawaii.

(*) yeah, I know his birthdate -- Hawaii was part of the Union ...

52 posted on 06/09/2008 6:39:51 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: angelsonmyside

Here is the text:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…


53 posted on 06/09/2008 6:40:03 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: cajungirl

Maybe is was not born in 61 is why they won’t release it.


54 posted on 06/09/2008 6:40:12 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (It's not the color of one's skin but the color of the heart)
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To: bannie

Billy wasn’t even a Blythe, that was just the name of the GI who was 3 months from coming home when Clinton’s mom got knocked up.


55 posted on 06/09/2008 6:41:14 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: angelsonmyside

That is what I wondered.


56 posted on 06/09/2008 6:42:16 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: grellis

See, he’s not a Muslim—he even has “ham” in his name.


57 posted on 06/09/2008 6:43:20 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: WellyP

Thanks for posting it, I didn’t know if I could when I read it. I have to admit it confused me a bit. Like many orhers on this thred I’m wondering why we are just finding out about this. Pretty interesting stuff.


58 posted on 06/09/2008 6:44:44 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (It's not the color of one's skin but the color of the heart)
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To: Leisler

I just LOLed


59 posted on 06/09/2008 6:44:55 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: Defiant

My hubby thinks that Bill Clinton’s father was Jack Kennedy who spent a lot of time in Hot Springs around the time of Clintons birth in 47. Look at Bill and the Kennedys and see if you see a resemblence.


60 posted on 06/09/2008 6:46:19 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: inkling

He can’t be president unless he’s a citizen. This could be the basis for a Republican version of the 2000 election.


61 posted on 06/09/2008 6:46:43 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: WellyP

Something is not right in that analysis. There is no way that a child born to a US citizen who is less than 21 is not a US citizen just because of the age of the mother.


62 posted on 06/09/2008 6:48:37 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: cajungirl

I think the word around Hot Springs is that it was some hood from New Orleans. But that doesn’t mean that JFK didn’t “know” Ginny.


63 posted on 06/09/2008 6:49:48 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: Defiant
“Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986”

Depends on what the law states at that time frame.

64 posted on 06/09/2008 6:52:56 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (It's not the color of one's skin but the color of the heart)
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To: inkling

lol!


65 posted on 06/09/2008 6:53:27 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Defiant

My thinking is that the real meaning of the law I copied and pasted aboce is that the person may not be president, not that the child is not a citizen. I agree that it needs to be researched.


66 posted on 06/09/2008 6:53:41 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: Defiant

My thinking is that the real meaning of the law I copied and pasted aboce is that the person may not be president, not that the child is not a citizen. I agree that it needs to be researched.


67 posted on 06/09/2008 6:53:45 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: WellyP

I just googled, apparently all Hawaiians got US citizenship in 1900! I didn’t know that.


68 posted on 06/09/2008 6:55:41 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: WellyP

I just googled, apparently all Hawaiians got US citizenship in 1900! I didn’t know that.


69 posted on 06/09/2008 6:55:53 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: inkling

He won’t release it because it says his race is white.


70 posted on 06/09/2008 6:57:26 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Defiant

Read the article. It refers to children born in territories where one parent is a citizen. It would seem odd that just because she was 18, it would make her son a non citizen. Odd.


71 posted on 06/09/2008 6:57:50 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: bannie

LOL! Surely, many presidents have been bastards in one way or another.


72 posted on 06/09/2008 6:59:03 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: angelsonmyside

Just about everyone on this thread and the author of this article is deeply confused.

Natural born is not equivalent to citizen. They are separate terms.

The law cannot define what natural born means because it is a term used in the constitution and any law passed cannot change the constitution. Otherwise we could amend it without the messy requirements of 2/3 approval by congress and the states.


73 posted on 06/09/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Always Right
Maybe he doesn’t want people to know his first name is really Barry and he adopted a Muslim name later.

Bingo!! You may have just saved us all.

74 posted on 06/09/2008 6:59:21 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: inkling

Where are the divorce papers between his mother and father? At least the initial pleadings are generally public documents, and such pleadings generally show the full names, ages and citizenship of any children of the marriage.


75 posted on 06/09/2008 6:59:58 PM PDT by RightField (The older you get .... the older "old" is.)
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To: cricket

Hillary is way smarter than you give her credit. By her holding the delegates and saying “Nice” things about Barry she will a shoe in if the other shoe drops.


76 posted on 06/09/2008 7:01:11 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Wonder Warthog

8. Actual birth date would reveal he’s a Virgo, and those people are %#&*@! CRAZY.”

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Ditto! I guess it’s just something I can’t overcome.
At least not I don’t have to worry about the hubby being
wrong on this issue....I always told him it was PMS.


77 posted on 06/09/2008 7:01:20 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: cajungirl
He wasn't born in a territory. He was born in a state, Hawaii, in 1961 or 62. Hawaii became a state in 1959, right after Alaska.

If he is hiding the certificate, it is probably because it lists him as a Muslim. Among other problems, it would make him an apostate, and sharia-following Muslims would be required to kill him if they get the chance. Would make diplomacy with the Saudis tough.

Of course, he could explain to them in private that he remains a Muslim, but to gain the Presidency, had to resort to a little taqqiyah.

78 posted on 06/09/2008 7:02:37 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: traditional1

That sounds just like a classic Clinton ending.


79 posted on 06/09/2008 7:04:18 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: cajungirl
Statehood 1959, Ombama alleged birth year 1961
80 posted on 06/09/2008 7:04:40 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: Raycpa

I’ll be the 1st to admit I’m confused but what if he was born in Kenya. Or if not, that perhaps it shows he is of Arab decent. It just has me really curious and I wish a smarter person than myself would do a vanity post to pose the question about his birth certificate.


81 posted on 06/09/2008 7:06:01 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (It's not the color of one's skin but the color of the heart)
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To: RightField
Where are the divorce papers between his mother and father? At least the initial pleadings are generally public documents, and such pleadings generally show the full names, ages and citizenship of any children of the marriage.

The better question might be where are the marriage papers.

82 posted on 06/09/2008 7:06:44 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: LonePalm
Self Ping for later.

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83 posted on 06/09/2008 7:06:44 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: angelsonmyside

As far as I understand, if he’s born on US soil, he’s a citizen.


84 posted on 06/09/2008 7:07:16 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: ricks_place

I’ve never seen religion listed on one.


85 posted on 06/09/2008 7:07:56 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: cajungirl
If he was born prior to Hawaii becoming a state, was Hawaii a territory?

He was born in 1961, Hawaii was a state in 1959.

86 posted on 06/09/2008 7:09:24 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: Lancey Howard

I have read that his full birth name was Baraka Hussein Muhammed Obama. I don’t know whether that is the case or not.

Also, It is questionable whether his parents were legitimately married. He “married” Barry’s mother without mentioning to her that he already had a wife. I’m not sure if that makes her a second wife in a Muslim harem, if she did not have a Muslim marriage or if she didn’t know about the first wife.

Finally, we only have his word for it that he was born in Hawaii. Probably he was, but he is a serial liar about such matters. He might have been born in Kenya. Who knows?


87 posted on 06/09/2008 7:09:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Always Right
The better question might be where are the marriage papers.

Except the marriage papers don't show children of the couple, generally. But divorce papers do.

88 posted on 06/09/2008 7:10:30 PM PDT by RightField (The older you get .... the older "old" is.)
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To: angelsonmyside

Why would he lie about that?

I mean he lies about other things, but why about his age?


89 posted on 06/09/2008 7:12:54 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: inkling

LOL


90 posted on 06/09/2008 7:13:50 PM PDT by loungeSerf (Hi-Yield Bureaucrat Farming - Hillary/Obama 08)
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To: TornadoAlley3

That could be true. It would depend on what the law/tradition was in Hawaii in 1961. If they defaulted to the mother’s race or his mother CHOSE to put white...


91 posted on 06/09/2008 7:14:50 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: RightField

Well, it is not certain that they were legally married. Barry’s father might have been married to someone else at the time.


92 posted on 06/09/2008 7:16:22 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: RockinRight
There is no mention of the word Territory. It does mention, one parent, US citizen and residing in the US.

“...If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16....”

93 posted on 06/09/2008 7:19:07 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: angelsonmyside

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=BARACK%20OBAMA&state=IL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=

Zabasearch says August 1961...

Reason I checked is Zaba is often a way to see if celebrities might be lying about their ages. It’s not always accurate, of course...


94 posted on 06/09/2008 7:19:35 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama '08 - Because Jimmy Carter Didn't Screw Things Up Enough)
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To: RockinRight

his mother CHOSE to put white...with typical white grandma standing over her holding the pen.


95 posted on 06/09/2008 7:21:20 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Always Right
They probably were not legally married because he already had a wife in Kenya. But this Genealogy of Barack Obama" indicates that a marriage was performed in Hawaii in Feb 1961, and a subsequent divorce action was filed in 1964."

I don't know where the developer of this genealogy got his information, though. I'm going to go see if Hawaii at least has indexes online for vital statistic information.

96 posted on 06/09/2008 7:23:31 PM PDT by RightField (The older you get .... the older "old" is.)
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To: RockinRight
Would birth be listed in newspaper in the 60’s?...would library in Hawaii have it?
97 posted on 06/09/2008 7:24:25 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Defiant
Didn't Mr. Blythe die in an accident soon afterward...making any denials tough on the guy?

HEY, maybe that was the very first "arkanside"???

98 posted on 06/09/2008 7:27:25 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: purpleraine
If they hadn't been bastardly at some time or another, they probably never would have made it to the presidency.
99 posted on 06/09/2008 7:28:19 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Was Obama’s mother still a student when he was born and was she on any sort of grant or scholarship? Would there be any information on those grant or scholarship papers that would indicate she gave birth?


100 posted on 06/09/2008 7:28:58 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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