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McCain Rebuffs Billy Gramam
newsmax.com ^ | 06/08/2008 | Doug Wead

Posted on 06/09/2008 10:02:31 PM PDT by llandres

McCain Campaign Declines to Meet with Billy Graham Sunday, June 8, 2008 10:10 PM By: Doug Wead For almost six decades, Billy Graham has been America’s most influential preacher and evangelist, a man sought out by every president since Harry Truman. Editor's Note: After this report was published the McCain campaign clarified its position about a meeting with Dr. Billy Graham. Read the clarification — Click Here Now. In another disturbing sign that Sen. John McCain has little interest in reaching out to his conservative base, including evangelical Christian voters, his campaign has declined an offer to meet with the Rev. Billy Graham. For almost six decades, Graham has been America’s most influential preacher and evangelist, a man sought out by every president since Harry Truman.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; billygraham; christianvote; mccain; snub
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1 posted on 06/09/2008 10:02:31 PM PDT by llandres
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To: llandres

Sorry Guys - BILLY GRAHAM (my first attempt at posting) - this article was so disturbing I just had to try to put it up here.


2 posted on 06/09/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Admin Moderator

Here’s a headline that could use fixing.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 10:06:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("If we don't quit, we will prevail." -- Click the pic on my homepage...)
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To: llandres

Written by Doug Wead, the guy who secretly tape-recorded President Bush and gave the tapes to the Press. Whatta guy.


4 posted on 06/09/2008 10:07:32 PM PDT by inkling
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To: llandres
Welcome to FR

BTW, you didn't do so bad for a first post.
I've seen a lot worse.

5 posted on 06/09/2008 10:08:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: llandres
I heard about this today. McCain did not rebuff Billy Graham. He tried to meet with him but Rev Graham was unable to travel to McCain. This is a non-story blown out of proportion by the accommodating MSM.
6 posted on 06/09/2008 10:08:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: EternalVigilance

Here’s a headline that could use fixing.

I KNOW - but is it too late now? Can’t take it back, can I, or not?


7 posted on 06/09/2008 10:09:52 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Fiddlstix; llandres

It was horrible. Fifty lashes for llandres, Fiddlstix. Oh the humanity!!!

:-)


8 posted on 06/09/2008 10:10:08 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: originalbuckeye

Can you explain?

I mean, why should the frail, quite elderly Graham have to travel to see McCain?

What sense does that make? If McCain won’t go where Graham is, I’d say McCain declined to meet with him.


9 posted on 06/09/2008 10:11:28 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: llandres

Rush was truly angry about this today, among many other things he was understandably angry about...


10 posted on 06/09/2008 10:12:57 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: txrangerette

I suspect that McCain will try to arrange a meeting. Short notice is tough when you are on a tight schedule trying to see as many Americans as possible. I’m sure McCain didn’t actually rebuff Rev Graham. He just has to rearrange his schedule.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 10:13:33 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: txrangerette

NewsMax reached Dan Rather status with this one.


12 posted on 06/09/2008 10:15:21 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: originalbuckeye

“I heard about this today. McCain did not rebuff Billy Graham. He tried to meet with him but Rev Graham was unable to travel to McCain. This is a non-story blown out of proportion by the accommodating MSM. “

Gosh, I’m glad to hear that - the main reason I wanted to post this was to get answers (which I was pretty sure you all would have), because I couldn’t IMAGINE what the hell JSM was thinking. As far as the MSM, usually newsmax seems more alternative and conservative. Well, sure wish the total facts would’ve been in this article, which made it sound like McCain’s camp just blew BG off, with a “boiler-plate” letter.


13 posted on 06/09/2008 10:15:58 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: originalbuckeye

“I heard about this today. McCain did not rebuff Billy Graham. He tried to meet with him but Rev Graham was unable to travel to McCain. This is a non-story blown out of proportion by the accommodating MSM. “

Gosh, I’m glad to hear that - the main reason I wanted to post this was to get answers (which I was pretty sure you all would have), because I couldn’t IMAGINE what the hell JSM was thinking. As far as the MSM, usually newsmax seems more alternative and conservative. Well, sure wish the total facts would’ve been in this article, which made it sound like McCain’s camp just blew BG off, with a “boiler-plate” letter.


14 posted on 06/09/2008 10:16:01 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: writer33

It was horrible. Fifty lashes for llandres, Fiddlstix. Oh the humanity!!!

:-)))))))))))Thanks, I needed that!


15 posted on 06/09/2008 10:17:35 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres
Senator McCain has proved himself completely capable of defeating himself in November.

If this is an indication of how adept his “handlers” are, he needs to start shopping for some new ones-—yesterday.

16 posted on 06/09/2008 10:17:56 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: writer33; llandres
It was horrible. Fifty lashes for llandres, Fiddlstix. Oh the humanity!!!

Hmmmmm.....
Nawww.....
50 is way too much for one typo......
Doncha think?

17 posted on 06/09/2008 10:19:41 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: llandres

I do believe that McCain has finally cut all ties to conservatives.


18 posted on 06/09/2008 10:20:01 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron ("Terisn" is my new favorite word. Thank you, Allegra.)
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To: llandres

No big deal. The mod can fix it if he thinks it must be fixed.

In that case, you must stand in a corner and repeat, “I’m a bad poster 500 times.”

:-)


19 posted on 06/09/2008 10:21:00 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: llandres

Billy Graham has come in for some recent criticism that, over the decades, it was more a question of him chasing presidents, than the other way around. He seemed to be too eager to schmooze with power.

That said, the article also states that McCain’s advisers were entirely too eager to pander to the media hit job on Rev. Hagee; taking quotes out of context and—abetted by ignorance—using the media to tar him for things he never said. McCain’s dumping Hagee only ended up confirming the accusations trying to equate him with Rev. Wright.


21 posted on 06/09/2008 10:21:19 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Liberty Valance

I got my info from Rush. If Newsmax was his source and they missed the boat, time will tell, I’m sure.


22 posted on 06/09/2008 10:21:26 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: llandres; Admin Moderator

It’s a false report, since refuted by both McCain and Graham sources. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2028705/posts

Moderator, please lock this thread or pull it.


23 posted on 06/09/2008 10:21:57 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: Fiddlstix; llandres
You must stand in a corner and repeat, “I’m a bad poster 500 times.”

Maybe this would be better. :-)

Not a big deal in the end.

24 posted on 06/09/2008 10:23:05 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: writer33

25 posted on 06/09/2008 10:23:29 PM PDT by shineon
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To: All; llandres; EternalVigilance; inkling; Fiddlstix; writer33; txrangerette; originalbuckeye; ...

McCain’s Graham Flap is False
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2028705/posts


26 posted on 06/09/2008 10:24:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: txrangerette

Rush was truly angry about this today, among many other things he was understandably angry about...


Wish I could’ve heard Rush today on that! What a previous poster said - I agree - McCain should absolutely have gone to meet BG, NOT expected BG to come there - if that was the only issue. It’s still shockingly stupid, at the very least. Not only does it appear as very public disrepect of a religious icon, but considering how BADLY McCain needs the support of both conservatives and evangelicals, it’s downright suicidal.


27 posted on 06/09/2008 10:24:49 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: originalbuckeye
I’m sure McCain didn’t actually rebuff Rev Graham.

Oh really?! From what I've seen to date McCain has gone out of his way to be antagonistic and downright disrespectful towards his solid conservative base from the git go. This is not the first time he has rebuffed attempts by the social right to establish some dialogue. He will need all those left wingers he has been going out of his way to court if he has even the remorest chance.

28 posted on 06/09/2008 10:25:15 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s that guy Doug Wead again. Makes me wonder about the whole story.


29 posted on 06/09/2008 10:26:50 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: originalbuckeye

“Short notice is tough when you are on a tight schedule trying to see as many Americans as possible. I’m sure McCain didn’t actually rebuff Rev Graham. He just has to rearrange his schedule.”

you’re kidding, right?


30 posted on 06/09/2008 10:26:55 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: shineon

:-)


31 posted on 06/09/2008 10:27:21 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: llandres; writer33
You must stand in a corner and repeat, “I’m a bad poster 500 times.”

llandres: See what you let yourself in for when you post a thread at FR?
ROFL!!!

32 posted on 06/09/2008 10:27:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Ron H.
From what I've seen to date McCain has gone out of his way to be antagonistic and downright disrespectful towards his solid conservative base from the git go. This is not the first time he has rebuffed attempts by the social right to establish some dialogue.

okay--but in this case, he has not rebuffed him... when he actually does rebuff Billy Graham, then he can get credit/blame for it... until then, it's a scheduling conflict... do we want the media to get it right or not? our feelings about McCain should have nothing to do with how/what is being reported...

33 posted on 06/09/2008 10:28:22 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Fiddlstix; llandres

And wait till you write your own stuff and post it. That’s even worse. Then you get to stand in the corner like I do daily and repeat, “The satire was stupid,” 1,000 times.

:-)


34 posted on 06/09/2008 10:30:00 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: llandres

With Doug Wead’s track record, I intend to take everything he says with an enormous grain of salt.


35 posted on 06/09/2008 10:30:19 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (<----- Typical White Person)
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To: Fiddlstix

You must stand in a corner and repeat, “I’m a bad poster 500 times.”
llandres: See what you let yourself in for when you post a thread at FR?
ROFL!!!


Yep, that’ll teach me :-))))) thanks for your good nature!


36 posted on 06/09/2008 10:37:07 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: latina4dubya
okay--but in this case, he has not rebuffed him... when he actually does rebuff Billy Graham, then he can get credit/blame for it... until then, it's a scheduling conflict... do we want the media to get it right or not? our feelings about McCain should have nothing to do with how/what is being reported...

The McCain camp is trying hard to do an about face here. It's likely they quickly realized they screwed up as the numbers have not been looking too hot for him in the polls lately and are trying desperately do an about face in this matter it would seem. That they may need some of those conservatives after all. LOL, wouldn't that be a hoot.

For one I believe the story as written because he has a long established track record to date in ignoring his conservative base and chasing after the hard left in recent weeks. You can deny it all you want but that doesn't change the facts so far to date.

To blame this screw up on a scheduling conflict is about as lame as it comes across as sounding. That may sound plausible to the uninitiated but to those who have been around the block at least once knows better considering his dismal record on the conservatives to date.

37 posted on 06/09/2008 10:41:04 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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ROTFLMAO!!!
I ain't gonna post any of my own writings here. FR just ain't ready for it yet.....
Maybe never will be......
LOL

Besides that, JimRob might start a "psychiatric wing" for FR and make me the first inmate. lol

38 posted on 06/09/2008 10:41:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

:-)


39 posted on 06/09/2008 10:44:42 PM PDT by writer33 (I'm Still Whining That Rush Limbaugh Isn't Doing Enough To Elect A Conservative)
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To: Ron H.
Newsmax.com reports of a rejection by John McCain to meeting with Dr. Billy Graham have been refuted by representative of both the McCain Campaign and the Billy Graham Association.

See links above

40 posted on 06/09/2008 11:03:05 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

thanks, I can depend on you to clean things up!


41 posted on 06/09/2008 11:10:18 PM PDT by malia (God Bless America, President Bush and our Troops & their families .)
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To: Ron H.
To blame this screw up on a scheduling conflict is about as lame as it comes across as sounding. That may sound plausible to the uninitiated but to those who have been around the block at least once knows better considering his dismal record on the conservatives to date.

Way to go, Lad! Don't let the fact that Rev Graham's people and McCain's people deny the NewsSchmucks story stand in the way of your irrational hatred. If the lie sounds better, believe the lie, just like the Jihadis do.

42 posted on 06/09/2008 11:12:39 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: malia

Thank you, that’s one of the nicest compliments I’ve ever been paid here at FR!


43 posted on 06/09/2008 11:16:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: pawdoggie
When I come across morons not unlike yourself "pard" who are quick to throw around the "hate" label so easily and loosely when someone takes issue with your own beliefs then that tells me more about you than it reveals about myself. The source you people are using as a source to discredit this articles author is at least as unreliable as the one you claim here. The Catholic Online is a notoriously unreliable source for truthfull information unless you are already bent that way politically.

So if this is the best you can come up with then you ought to just move alone and mind your own business "pard LOL. You bring shame to your side here.

44 posted on 06/09/2008 11:28:07 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: Irish Eyes

See post #44. So much for your source.


45 posted on 06/09/2008 11:30:08 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: singfreedom
Senator McCain has proved himself completely capable of defeating himself in November. If this is an indication of how adept his “handlers” are, he needs to start shopping for some new ones-—yesterday.

It's more of an indication at how gullible some sheeple are in believing any story coming from the media without doing any cross check -

46 posted on 06/09/2008 11:42:32 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: llandres
John McCain is running his campaign like he wants to lose the election. I remember 96. No one much cared it was Bob Dole's turn at the wheel. People don't seem excited either about McCain.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

47 posted on 06/09/2008 11:58:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: maine-iac7

I’ll remember that.


48 posted on 06/10/2008 12:09:00 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: llandres
This story is being reported as bogus:

McCain’s Graham Flap is False

49 posted on 06/10/2008 1:17:23 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: llandres

THIS IS PURE GARBAGE!

Larry Ross, director of Media and PR for the Graham Association told Mother Jones, “It would be highly unusual and out of character for Mr. Graham to initiate such a meeting, and there has been no contact between the McCain campaign and his office.

“In fact, Mr. Graham has not met or been in contact with any candidates during the current primary process. If he had, it has been his personal policy through the years to avoid partisanship by meeting with representatives from both parties to address spiritual concerns.

“Upon further inquiry I understand that two people unaffiliated with either Billy or Franklin Graham apparently independently, without any knowledge by the [Billy Graham Evangelistic Association], tried to broker a meeting between Mr. McCain and the evangelist. Apparently it was their indirect and unofficial involvement that was declined.”


50 posted on 06/10/2008 2:22:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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