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Israeli on Arab TV: Jerusalem Was Ours When Muslims [still] Worshipped Idols
INN ^ | 06/04/08,

Posted on 06/11/2008 8:38:25 PM PDT by PRePublic

Israeli on Arab TV: J'lem Was Ours When Moslems Worshipped Idols ...Israeli on Arab TV: J'lem Was Ours When Moslems Worshipped Idols ... Jerusalem is our city forever and is not an issue for you, for Al Jazeera or for anyone ...Dr. Kedar: "Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran even once. You can't rewrite the Koran on air on Al Jazeera."...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126403

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel
KEYWORDS: aljazeera; arabs; bible; christianity; godsgravesglyphs; holyland; islam; israel; jerusalem; jews; judaism; koran; muhammad; muslims; palestinians; pallywood; pc; politics; quran; religion; zionism; zionist

1 posted on 06/11/2008 8:38:26 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

Truth hurts.


2 posted on 06/11/2008 8:47:57 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: PRePublic
The Al Jazeera host responded by quoting a verse from the Koran in which he thought Jerusalem was mentioned by name, but stopped in the middle upon realizing that it only refers to "the farthest place."

Dr. Kedar: "Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran even once. You can't rewrite the Koran on air on Al Jazeera."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

3 posted on 06/11/2008 8:48:02 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: PRePublic

Set Match and Point!


4 posted on 06/11/2008 8:55:05 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Contractor From Arifjan Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!!)
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To: PRePublic
LOL!.....that gonna leave an mark....poor, poor Mooselimbs....
pray to your MOON GOD.

5 posted on 06/11/2008 8:57:32 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

It’s called hitting them with their own “weapon” (their “holy” book - Koran).


6 posted on 06/11/2008 8:58:06 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: skinkinthegrass
He could have said it like this:
"Jerusalem was ours( the Jews') before Islam, before The Arabs became "Muslims".
7 posted on 06/11/2008 9:00:53 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Yep, all members of the ROP assume that Mohamed’s (midnight) ride into the night involved Jerusalem. No mention in the Koran or anywhere else in early Islamic literature regarding a city or country named Jerusalem. The ROP only became interested in Jerusalem when they found out that it was the Holy city of the Jews.


8 posted on 06/11/2008 9:01:05 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: PRePublic

Good for Dr. Kedar.


9 posted on 06/11/2008 9:07:40 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: PRePublic

No matter, it’s the third, or fourth, or fifth, or whatever holiest place in Islam. So, you Jews and Christians have to give up the holiest place for both your false religions. It’s the will of Allah.


10 posted on 06/11/2008 9:16:39 PM PDT by Will88
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To: PRePublic; All

So that would be when, this morning?


11 posted on 06/11/2008 9:20:43 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: All
Why Jerusalem is Not Holy to Muslims
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/3691

Jerusalem is "not holy to Muslims at all," nor has it ever been, and the claim that it is Islam's third holiest site, after Mecca and Medina, is aimed simply at stealing the city from the Jewish people...
"They simply want to take away our heart and our soul," ... in a speech he gave before 200 congregants shortly before the 40th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem.
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/11610.htm

12 posted on 06/11/2008 9:45:33 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Arabized BBC's A. Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Isn’t the notion of a Jewish state against Islamic teaching? It is prohibited by Islam?


13 posted on 06/11/2008 9:53:59 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: philly-d-kidder

“Set Match and Point!”

Muslims do not play tennis when it concerns Islam. They do not have a sense of logic. The only time you beat them is off the court by breaking an old Wilson 2000 steel racket on their heads.


14 posted on 06/11/2008 9:55:54 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: weegee

Don’t know. I know Islam tells Moslems to kill Jews everywhere they find them.


15 posted on 06/11/2008 9:57:34 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: PRePublic
Check-freaking-mate.

So, how badly did the muzzies lose their minds when the good Dr. said that?
16 posted on 06/11/2008 9:59:27 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (Thompson Conservative)
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American Thinker: Islam's mystical claim on Jerusalem Yet many Muslims today claim Jerusalem as theirs. Islam's claim on Jerusalem can be questioned because of two dubious reasons and because these shaky ...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/12/islams_mystical_claim_on_jerus.html 
 
Jerusalm has no significance in Islam. It is significant to Jews ...Dome of the Mosque in Jerusalem was never an important Islamic site. There is no reference to Jerusalem in the Koran. There was no pilgrimages of Muslims to ...
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=2480868 
 
False Moslem ClaimsThe Moslem "claim" to Jerusalem is based on what is written in the Koran, which although Jerusalem is not mentioned even once, nevertheless talks (in Sura ...
http://www.unitedjerusalem.com/FALSE_MOSLEM_CLAIMS/false_moslem_claims.asp
 
The Islamic connection to Jerusalem began much later in history, during the 7th century CE. The central personality of Islam, Mohammed, was born and raised in the area of present-day Saudi Arabia and founded Islam in the early 7th century. (The first year of the Moslem calendar, or the Hajira, corresponds to the year 622 CE of the Christian calendar.)
Scholars agree that Mohammed was influenced by Judaism (and Christianity). This influence was significant enough that Mohammed's original plan for the direction of prayer (Qibla) was also Jerusalem. Mohammed later changed the direction of prayer to Mecca in Saudi Arabia -- a place that was converted from a pagan pilgrimage site to the 'eternal city,' and the center of the Moslem religion. (Moslems also placed Mecca as the spot where Abraham nearly sacrificed Isaac's brother Ishmael.)
Mohammed never made it to Jerusalem, and the word 'Jerusalem' appears nowhere in the Koran.
http://www.middleeast.org/forum/fb-public/1/4408.shtml
 
Jerusalem Means More to Jews Than to Muslims
http://www.meforum.org/article/pipes/343
 
The Greatest Lie Ever Told About JerusalemMohammed never again mentioned the word Jerusalem in his compilation of Islam"s holy book, the Koran and directed his "quibla" (prayers) to Mecca. ...
http://www.gamla.org.il/english/article/2001/jan/win2.htm
 
The Fight for Jerusalem: Radical Islam, the West, and the Future of the Holy city
Radical Islam has long desired to seize Jerusalem and cut it off to Christian and Jewish believers. In this book, Israeli diplomat Dore Gold explains why the battle for Jerusalem is intensifying today. Gold shows why only Israel can preserve its holy plac
http://books.google.com/books?id=fHkhe_vNppgC&pg=RA1-PA89&lpg=RA1-PA89&dq=jerusalem+koran&source=web&ots=fefvC-8HFn&sig=zYHesvdh22fP2AyFDjx0Q8f3qXA&hl=en
 
In the last decades, radical Islam has been fed by its sense of victory in the face of repeated withdrawals: a re-division of Jerusalem would not only endanger its holy sites, but also unleash new jihadist momentum, on a scale that most political leaders have not begun to consider.
www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev020107a.cfm
 
[Muslim sheik] Palazzi cites Koran passages showing that the Land of Israel was given to the Jews
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/1002.htm
 
'The Koran Says The Jews Would Return To Their Land': Exclusive Interview With Sheikh Abdul Palazzi
http://www.jewishpress.com/displayContent_new.cfm?mode=a&sectionid=15&contentid=14905&contentName='The%20Koran%20Says%20The%20Jews%20Would%20Return%20To%20Their%20Land':%20Exclusive%20Interview%20With%20Sheikh%20Abdul%20Palazzi
 
Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran. Jerusalem is mentioned in Jewish prayers three times daily. It is mentioned every time a Jew eats, ...
http://www.dangoor.com/75045.html
 
The Muslim Claim to JerusalemWhere does Jerusalem fit in Islam and Muslim history? It is not the place to which they pray, is not once mentioned by name in prayers, and it is connected ...
http://christianactionforisrael.org/muslim_claim.html
 
The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/84 
 
Muhammad's Night Journey wasn't to Jerusalem, so why all the fuss?
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/91-1103.aspx
 
Historical Truths About Jerusalem and the Temple MountIn fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem! ...
http://www.masada2000.org/templemount.html

17 posted on 06/11/2008 10:37:22 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Arabized BBC's A. Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: Uncle Ivan
Check-freaking-mate. So, how badly did the muzzies lose their minds when the good Dr. said that?

I am sure the interviewer had "protesting" letter from "offended" Muslims, how dare an "ape" or a "pig" (AKA A Jew or a Christian in Islamic "doctrine') is 'allowed' to voice an opinion on "holy"-terrorists-apologetic Al Jazeera ground...

18 posted on 06/11/2008 10:40:28 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Arabized BBC's A. Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: PRePublic

In the immortal words of South Park

“You just got f’ed in the A”

or in gamer speak: PWNED!


19 posted on 06/11/2008 11:00:01 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: PRePublic
(The first year of the Moslem calendar, or the Hajira, corresponds to the year 622 CE of the Christian calendar.)

Why use "CE" rather than "AD?" I'm hearing this lately - no time for Christ? Focus on the common rather than Christ's uncommon life and death?
20 posted on 06/11/2008 11:23:58 PM PDT by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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To: PRePublic

Obviously he didn’t know shi’ite from shinola..


21 posted on 06/11/2008 11:28:37 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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Here's a related item, the attemptd trick by Muhammad to USE Jerusalem in an attempt to "convert" them from God towards HIS movement.

Rael Isaac Reviews The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism21 hours ago by Andrew Bostom Mohammed began by wooing Jewish tribes (Jews were numerous in Medina, which was originally a Jewish city), adopting Jewish ceremonies, even stipulating that his followers turn to Jerusalem in prayer. But the Jews dismissed him...
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/06/11/rael-isaac-reviews-the-legacy-of-islamic-antisemitism/

22 posted on 06/11/2008 11:30:05 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Arabized BBC's A. Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: sheik yerbouty

good one, and... the Sunnis have no less “shi-ite” within them...


23 posted on 06/11/2008 11:31:30 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Arabized BBC's A. Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: PRePublic
Mohammad invented his religion and sought to make it appeal to the largest audience to gain power. The Jews drove him out of Mecca because he was a trouble-maker. They apparently had even sought to assassinate him. It would have been a different world had they succeeded.

He didn't forgive them and slew as many Jews as he could in Arabia, wiping out whole tribes. Like Hitler he hated them because they were so industrious and didn't bend to his will.

24 posted on 06/12/2008 12:00:47 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: PRePublic

Moslems can have Jerusalem when pigs fly.


25 posted on 06/12/2008 12:19:09 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: PRePublic

If Israel were somehow to develop space travel, build a city on the Moon and call it New Jerusalem, the Muslims would still have a fit and claim that the Moon belongs to Islam because of its long-standing central place in the Islamic religion.

Muslims are the perpetual spoiled brats of the human species. Anything they want is theirs by divine right and if you don’t give it to them they will kill you, or at the very least, hold their breath until they turn blue.


26 posted on 06/12/2008 3:25:14 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: Salem; SJackson; Alouette; F15Eagle; 444Flyer; SunkenCiv; mkjessup; T.L.Sink; M. Espinola; ...

Oh yeah, Dr. Kedar nails it with a big ole hammer, and on al-Jazeera, yet!

This is an Amen and Right on ping!


27 posted on 06/12/2008 4:50:56 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("When I was a boy, America was a better place" - Dennis Prager)
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28 posted on 06/12/2008 5:53:01 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: PRePublic

Ouch. This will not sit well with the moon rock worshippers.


29 posted on 06/12/2008 5:57:44 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I'm not normally this grouchy - wait a minute, yes I am.)
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To: Ronin

In other words, a hugh bunch of big crybabies.


30 posted on 06/12/2008 11:13:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Mecca=Idol Dome of the Rock=Idol The “rock thingy”=Idol

+ one big false god= total idolatry.


31 posted on 06/12/2008 12:39:01 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: weegee

The notions of Jews is against Islam.


32 posted on 06/12/2008 1:15:38 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: PRePublic

Thanks for posting those links. Islam hates the truth!


33 posted on 06/12/2008 2:07:44 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: PRePublic

I would say that it’s a d@mn good sign to even see an Arab TV show...

...even allow an Israeli political scientist to debate the issue.


34 posted on 06/12/2008 3:49:54 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Life itself is..


35 posted on 06/12/2008 8:41:00 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA; AdmSmith; Berosus; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

That’s just offensive. 800 million outraged Muzzies need to burn down Al Jazeera. ;’)

Thanks C from E.


36 posted on 06/12/2008 9:44:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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37 posted on 06/12/2008 9:46:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Israel was ours when Muslims still worshiped idols.
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Is that worse than worshiping a figment of their imagination?


38 posted on 06/12/2008 9:56:11 PM PDT by gost2
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To: PRePublic

They still do.


39 posted on 06/12/2008 10:05:25 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: PRePublic

An excellent article! I’d be cheering loudly here if it wouldn’t wake up the neighbors! How refreshing...

From the article:
“Building in Jerusalem is another nail in the coffin in negotiations with the Palestinian Authority,” narrator Jimal Rian asserted. Dr. Kedar answered in fluent Arabic, “This was our capital 3,000 years ago, and we were here when your forefathers were drinking wine, burying girls alive and worshipping pre-Muslim idols. This is our city and it will be our city forever.”

His reference to Muslims drinking wine, which is forbidden in Islam, infuriated the host. Rian wagged his finger in the air and said excitedly, “If you want to talk about history, you cannot erase Jerusalem from the Koran, and don’t attack the Muslim religion if we want to continue talking.”

Dr. Kedar replied, “Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran. Jerusalem is a Jewish city.”

The Al Jazeera host responded by quoting a verse from the Koran in which he thought Jerusalem was mentioned by name, but stopped in the middle upon realizing that it only refers to “the farthest place.”

Dr. Kedar: “Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran even once. You can’t rewrite the Koran on air on Al Jazeera.”


40 posted on 06/13/2008 2:04:00 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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"Dr. Kedar: “Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran even once. You can’t rewrite the Koran on air on Al Jazeera.”

May Dr. Kedar receive so many blessings that his socks are knocked off for a month!
41 posted on 06/13/2008 4:31:41 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("When I was a boy, America was a better place" - Dennis Prager)
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To: PRePublic

Muzzies still worship idols not to mention phony god and a false prophet. Gotta be stone stupid dumb to do all that


42 posted on 06/13/2008 7:36:33 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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