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U.S. invites Russian navy to participate in global missions
Stars and Stripes ^ | 6/14/08 | Sandra Jontz

Posted on 06/13/2008 7:51:21 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

The U.S. Navy extended an open invitation this week to the Russian Federation Navy to join forces for missions on the world’s high seas.

Both marine forces have increased their presence around the globe. The U.S. Navy asked the Russians to join the Navy’s new maritime initiative, a plan much different from the sea-combat strategies of yesteryear — those of fighting in deep blue water to sink other navies or deliver missiles inland from the oceans. Now, focus is placed on maintaining safe seas, delivering humanitarian aid, disaster response and countering terrorism.

"The point that we brought out in discussions this week was that we highlighted our new maritime strategy and within that, specifically, the concept of global maritime partnerships," said Rear Adm. Tony Kurta, commander of Navy Europe-Africa plans and policy in Naples.

"We welcome seeing the Russian navy on the high seas anywhere, and look to any opportunity to increase cooperation between our two navies, particularly in global maritime partnerships," he said in an interview.

It’s an invitation the Russians received well, said Vice Adm. Dmitry Dmitriev, assistant to the Head of Naval Staff.

"We are involved in coordinated actions and we were able to reach mutual understanding of each other’s points of view," Dmitriev said of the two-day staff talks.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; jointexercise; maritime; missions; nato; navigation; navy; russia; russianmilitary; trade; transportation

1 posted on 06/13/2008 7:51:22 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

I think the garbage fumes are getting to Admiral Tony.


2 posted on 06/13/2008 8:07:44 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
I think the garbage fumes are getting to Admiral Tony.

The Russians, like the Germans, are a proud people that can sink into sullen hostility and then active hostility if they feel they are being looked down upon.

It would be an interesting "what if" to know what would have happened if the Royal Navy had extended such an invitation to the Kaiserliche Marine at the turn of the 20th Century.

What actually did happen is that both Gremany and Britain destroyed their status as world powers in the resulting wars of rivalry.

3 posted on 06/13/2008 8:20:27 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Dawnsblood

“...hold your enemies closer” and all that.

Sounds good to me.


4 posted on 06/13/2008 8:21:50 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Dawnsblood

Interesting. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if Russia joins NATO in the next decade or so.

I expect the will end up being valuable allies against a muslim-chinese mutual hegemony alliance


5 posted on 06/13/2008 8:24:37 PM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Russia still earnestly desires southern warm-water ports...


6 posted on 06/13/2008 8:25:56 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Polybius

Welcome to the New World Order. All is moving according to Agenda 21. Hip hip hurray! Thank Allah for the United Nations.


7 posted on 06/13/2008 9:05:40 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch; Wiseghy
Welcome to the New World Order. All is moving according to Agenda 21. Hip hip hurray! Thank Allah for the United Nations.

As Wiseghy said in Post 4, “ '...hold your enemies closer' and all that. Sounds good to me."

What do tactical political moves by the U.S. vis a vis Russia have to do with the United Nations, a New World Order or with the price of tea in China?

8 posted on 06/13/2008 9:18:52 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Study Agenda 21 and you’ll see what I am talking about.


9 posted on 06/13/2008 9:29:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

“Study Agenda 21 and you’ll see what I am talking about.”

Most people haven’t heard about it but it’s moving right along isn’t it?


10 posted on 06/13/2008 9:51:09 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan

I am expecting Bush to make a big shove for the LOST treaty before his shift is done. That would do a lot to get the ball rolling faster.


11 posted on 06/13/2008 10:13:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Dawnsblood

12 posted on 06/13/2008 10:35:51 PM PDT by klpt
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To: Polybius; B4Ranch
Stability and integration. Enemies?

"The NATO-Russia Founding Act we have just signed joins a great nation and history's most successful alliance in common cause for a long-sought but never before realized goal --a peaceful, democratic, undivided Europe." Bill Clinton Paris,27 May 1997

NATO-Russia Council http://www.nato.int/issues/nrc/tasks.html

Work under the NATO-Russia Council focuses on all areas of mutual interest identified in the Founding Act. Cooperation is being intensified in a number of key areas, which include the fight against terrorism, crisis management, non-proliferation, arms control and confidence-building measures, theatre missile defence, logistics, military-to-military cooperation, defence reform and civil emergencies. New areas may be added to the NRC’s agenda by the mutual consent of its members.

The NATO-Russia Council will provide a mechanism for consultation, consensus-building, cooperation, joint decision, and joint action for the member states of NATO and Russia on a wide spectrum of security issues in the Euro-Atlantic region.

In this context, we will observe in good faith our obligations under international law, including the UN Charter, provisions and principles contained in the Helsinki Final Act and the OSCE Charter for European Security.

13 posted on 06/14/2008 1:42:36 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Dawnsblood

We also occasionally have US Naval assets dock and make port calls in the People’s Republic of China.


14 posted on 06/14/2008 2:01:21 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Jeff Head

Ping.


15 posted on 06/14/2008 2:29:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: null and void
"valuable allies against a muslim-chinese mutual hegemony alliance"

Yet the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which includes China and Russia, is often described as an eastern NATO like organization. Then you have the Chinese deepwater navel port in Pakistan plus the build up of the Russian navy in the eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea.

16 posted on 06/14/2008 4:55:55 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: B4Ranch
"That would do a lot to get the ball rolling faster"

The treaty is in effect. Only the US and handful of landlocked nations haven't signed. Whether the US signs or doesn't sign is irrelevant.

Now we can sit on our hands and observe the Arctic nations carve up the drilling rights in the Arctic Ocean.

17 posted on 06/14/2008 5:03:58 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
China and Russian don't particularly trust each other. (For that matter neither China or Russia particularly trust anyone!)

Whether the Shanghai Cooperation Organization or NATO succeeds in being Russia's suitable suitor remans to be seen. My guess is that Russia will look west for friends when China looks north for resources.

I could be very wrong but that's the way I read the tea leaves long term.

The other two point you raised?

Then you have the Chinese deepwater navel port in Pakistan

This argues for the "muslim-chinese mutual hegemony alliance" I created out of whole cloth in post #5. Islam and China share the goal of the destruction of western civilization. I believe they will be forced into an uneasy alliance in the not too distant future.

the build up of the Russian navy in the eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea.

Russia has its own muslim problem. I'm more inclined to believe that in the long run, Russia's self interest militates strongly against an alliance here. There may be some short term agreements, but the blind muslim hatred of all things not muslim enough will ultimately destroy it.

Think Cole-ski...

18 posted on 06/14/2008 7:40:07 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Russia, most of the CIS, and China still cling to their old Communistic ways. They are NOT our friends.


19 posted on 06/14/2008 9:59:53 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: null and void

China also has their own Islamic problem. Think the Ugars of western China.


20 posted on 06/14/2008 10:00:42 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Odd how everyone bordering an islamist nation has islam problems, isn’t it?


21 posted on 06/14/2008 10:02:40 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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