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Therapy in China gives blind Ark. girl some sight
The Cabin ^ | JOANNE BRATTON

Posted on 06/14/2008 7:46:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

MOUNTAIN HOME, Ark. — When 9-year-old Kacie Sallee saw her father's face more clearly for the first time in her life, she had a question.

"She said, 'Is that what he looks like?'" said her mother, Marinda Sallee.

Kacie, who is blind, returned last week from China, where she received umbilical-cord stem cell treatment in hopes of improving her eyesight. The nearly four-week trip and medical treatment was paid through $60,000 in local donations.

Kacie was born with septo-optic dysplasia, an underdevelopment of the optic nerve and pituitary gland. She could see bright colors out of her right eye but only light and dark out of her left eye.

During treatment overseas, her family started noticing improvements. Kacie looked at a photograph of her father, Stephen Sallee, on the computer, and saw his eyes and mouth were more defined, Marinda Sallee said.

"Before, she would look at a face and say it had spots on it," she said. "It's little things, but for us, it's huge."

Now, Kacie is starting to see bright colors out of her left eye, which she could never detect before, Sallee said. She also can count fingers when they are held about four inches away from her face, she said.

Her family also is noticing a difference in the way Kacie uses her eyes. Before, she looked down most of the time, but now, she looks up and appears to watch more, Sallee said. At a local park Wednesday, Kacie seemed to watch her brother swing, her head moving back and forth.

Kacie, her mother and grandmother stayed at Chengyang People's Hospital in Qingdao, China. Kacie received four spinal and one intravenous umbilical stem cell transfusion by Beike Biotech.

The stem cells were obtained from umbilical cords of healthy babies and were not embryonic stem cells from a human embryo.

Umbilical stem-cell treatment is not approved in the United States for her condition, experts have said.

The Sallees chronicled their journey on a blog, which they updated nearly every day.

Kacie stayed in the hospital the day of her treatment and also the next day, because her back and head would hurt, Marinda said. After that, they explored area restaurants and markets.

Kacie bought dolls, which she named after her favorite translators — April, Wendy and Amanda, she said. She also bought a jade bracelet and a tea set. The family learned to bargain for items with vendors by using a calculator, her mother said.

While in China, Kacie also looked forward to eating shrimp sandwiches at KFC, a menu item not offered locally, she said.

"I just wish I could see a picture of a shrimp sandwich at KFC," Kacie said, describing in detail how the sandwich was made.

The Sallees are grateful they could make the trip, Marinda Sallee said, adding the stem cells Kacie received will grow for one year. Oxygen treatment may help if they stop noticing improvements, she said. If Kacie keeps improving, they may consider going back to China for more treatments, she said.

While Kacie's eyesight improvements may be slow, Marinda Sallee plans to post any news on Kacie's Web site at

http://www.kacieshope4vision.com

. Their China journey can be read at

http://stemcellschina.com/blog/kacie

.

"There may be weeks you will not have change, and then you notice something different," Marinda Sallee said. "We can't wait to see what tomorrow's is."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; blindness; china; cordblood; medicine; science; sight; stemcells; umbilicalcordblood; vision

1 posted on 06/14/2008 7:46:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten

Which China?


2 posted on 06/14/2008 7:48:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Dr. Marten

This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.


3 posted on 06/14/2008 7:48:44 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: yldstrk

There’s only one China.


4 posted on 06/14/2008 7:49:53 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Poundstone

Yep. Certainly is. There are some on this forum who want to completely ban stem cell research, no matter the source of the cells.


5 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:12 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

If only we had Nationalized health care................

6 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:58 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

Another thing you can blame on the Democrat party. Democrats want to do anything to sanctify abortion, so they all oppose any stem cell funding that specifically exempts cells harvested from dead babies. They only care about people like this child, or Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox only as long as it helps them to advance the cause of mainstreaming the murder of the unborn.

Me personally, I think we should fund such research, provided the cells are not harvested from murdered babies. When my baby is born, I plan to donate the cord blood for such research.

7 posted on 06/14/2008 7:56:31 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: AntiKev
There are some on this forum who want to completely ban stem cell research, no matter the source of the cells.

I've never seen anyone post that. Many of us are vehemently opposed to embryonic stem cell usage.

I've been getting some people to think about the issue IRL by pointing out how limited money for research really is and 'don't you think it should be spent on treatments that WORK?'

I'm very happy to read about another one.

8 posted on 06/14/2008 8:16:29 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

That's what pregnant American women said about that miracle morning-sickness drug which was only available in Europe. You know - thalidomide.

9 posted on 06/14/2008 8:18:01 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: nina0113

I have.

Here’s the big thing about embryonic stem cells. If the child was already dead (stillborn, aborted, miscarried or whatever) then what does it matter how the cells are used? If the child was specifically aborted to use the cells, that’s a different story.

The funding is low, but the payoff is so high that we need to be doing the research. I’m not a big fan of people who are so stuck in their beliefs that they want to stand in the way of human progress.


10 posted on 06/14/2008 8:19:59 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: nina0113

Why don’t you go put on a full body condom, a respirator and a helmet? That will protect you from most anything that could go wrong.

Sometimes we as scientists make mistakes. It happens. Making the analogy that you have here is a false one and you should think it through a little bit more.

We’re taught to manage risk as best as we can, but at some point you have to decide, release your product or scrap the research. Nothing in life is 100% assured or safe, and there’s no reason to pretend that it should be.


11 posted on 06/14/2008 8:23:38 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: Dr. Marten

I have to admit I am shocked. They helped a ‘girl’? In China?


12 posted on 06/14/2008 8:24:08 AM PDT by Fawn (We live in the Greatest country in the world, And I HOPE to CHANGE that -- Hussien Obama)
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To: AntiKev

It’s because of where some people think THAT will lead to. If you use the stem cells regardless of where they came from, some people THINK it MAY lead someone to have a baby JUST for the stem cells and kill it. It’s the same with gun shows....people don’t want to stop criminals from getting them at Gun Shows through a new law, because it MIGHT lead to OTHER laws at Gun Stores.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 8:28:11 AM PDT by Fawn (We live in the Greatest country in the world, And I HOPE to CHANGE that -- Hussien Obama)
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To: Dr. Marten

I don’t know that I would eat a shrimp sandwich in China.


14 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:18 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: Fawn

Yeah well most people don’t think, of the remainder most don’t do it well. That’s as far as I’m going to go with that quote.


15 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:23 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: AntiKev
Why don’t you go put on a full body condom, a respirator and a helmet?

keep quiet the army is thinking abou that

16 posted on 06/14/2008 8:43:17 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Support your local conservatives.)
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To: Poundstone

agree.

but there will be those on this forum who disagree.


17 posted on 06/14/2008 9:12:09 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Dr. Marten
There’s only one China.

All power comes from the barrel of a gun,eh?

18 posted on 06/14/2008 9:22:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US.
Ridiculous that it isn’t.


If it isn't available in California, you'd have to give major credit
to The Los Angeles Times. That rag did make one big push to
strangle the use of cord-blood/umbilical stem cells.
The article, if it truly reflected the attitude of The LA Times
staff, could be summed up as "It's Embryonic Stem Cells,
or NOTHING!".
Apparently, the LA Times believes in "diversity"...except for
some areas of medical research.
Not a suprising POV as the LA Times was a major cheer-leader in
passage of the initiative to spend $3-$6 Billion dollars on
ESC research.

A couple of years ago, they ran a page-one article in their Sunday
edition that was a hit-piece on umbilical stem cell usage and
cord-blood banks.
In the article, the writers even did a bit of pimping for an
Orange County lawyer that was hoping to file a class-action lawsuit
against cord-blood banks. The lawyer was lamenting that he just
couldn't find enough clients.
(VOA: I have no idea if the lawyer found sufficient clients and/or
has filed the lawsuit.)

My general impression is that the article was written in a fit
of pique over the success of adult/umbilical stem cells
and as of the time of the article, none for embryonic stem cells.

In interests of full disclosure: I prefer the use of what works.
Which for the present moment, seems to be adult/cord-blood/umbilical type
of stem cells.
As for ESCs, they may yet prove to be great therapuetic agents,
but it sure seems like it's a slow-motion Manhattan Project in
bringing them into the medicinal armory.
But, realistically, that's often the story of research.
19 posted on 06/14/2008 9:26:42 AM PDT by VOA
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To: AntiKev

Really? Can you cite that without going to too much trouble?


20 posted on 06/14/2008 9:26:45 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: AntiKev

“Yeah well most people don’t think, of the remainder most don’t
do it well. That’s as far as I’m going to go with that quote.”

Perhaps this is the quote you reference:

“Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so”.
——Bertrand Russell

http://quotations.about.com/b/2006/02/07/most-people-would-rather-die-than-think-in-fact-they-do-so-bertrand-russell.htm


21 posted on 06/14/2008 9:34:06 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Gay State Conservative
All power comes from the barrel of a gun,eh?

Swords and spears are so passé you know...

22 posted on 06/14/2008 9:47:04 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Dr. Marten

Terrific news!

Adult and Umbilical stem cells now have many proven uses.

Whereas embryonic stem cells are - apparently - only good for attracting government grant money.


23 posted on 06/14/2008 10:41:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: AntiKev

Somebody already addressed what I’ll call the ‘oops angle’. So, I’ll take the other.

Of the funding, you assert that ‘the payoff is so high that we need to be doing the research’. We ARE doing the research. Public funding is available to anybody who will research alternate (non-embryonically derived) stem cells. From a purely scientific perspective, the embryonic cells don’t do very well. A propensity to develop into cancerous cells has been identified.

There is a probability that I’ve read insufficiently, but if you do have any sources that show that ‘the payoff is so high that we need to be doing the research’, I’d like to see it.


24 posted on 06/14/2008 10:48:37 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: AntiKev
Yep. Certainly is. There are some on this forum who want to completely ban stem cell research, no matter the source of the cells.

The stem cells used in this treatment were non-embyonic. The traetent is forbidden in the us because the FDA has not gotten around to aproving it.

25 posted on 06/14/2008 11:12:44 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: AntiKev

You say, “if the child was already dead...”

First, thanks for acknowledging that an embryo is a child, which we knew anyway. Second, your reasoning - in truth, your rationalization - leads to: 1) first killing the child, then; 2) claiming that such “research” is okay, since the child is already dead. This is exactly what opponents of embryonic stem cell “research” have fought because we know it would take place just as you describe.

Third, embryonic stem cell “research” has no track record of success, which should answer your question. Those who champion this version of “research,” along with the likes of Michael Fox, should, when found in this girl’s circumstances, just stay home and wait for embryonic stem cell research to cure them, rather than go to where real stem cell research can accomplish its cures. Clearly this girl’s parents had their heads in the right place in selecting the only mode of research with real hope of curing her blindness.

Given the success deficit of embryonic stem cell research, and your insistence that it persist, despite its “low funding,” who is really so stuck in their beliefs here, you or those who recognize real research and real success? Recall that insanity is defined by some as making the same mistake again and again, hoping for a different result.

Which dovetails nicely with the notion that liberalism, with its blind-faith support of futile embryonic stem cell “research,” is a mental disease.


26 posted on 06/14/2008 12:14:05 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: DPMD
First, thanks for acknowledging that an embryo is a child, which we knew anyway. Second, your reasoning - in truth, your rationalization - leads to: 1) first killing the child, then; 2) claiming that such “research” is okay, since the child is already dead. This is exactly what opponents of embryonic stem cell “research” have fought because we know it would take place just as you describe.

I'm stunned (stuned?) Your "logic" would also outlaw human organ donations. We'd soon be killing people to get them, wouldn't we? You've really carried your thinking way beyond all common sense.

I'm not claiming that it couldn't happen, but if a child were murdered to obtain his stem cells, then that crime would have to be punished. But to outlaw the use of embryonic stem cells from any source is just selfish and unscientific.

27 posted on 06/14/2008 2:21:57 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: AntiKev

How can a scientist not know that embryonic stem cells come ONLY from embryos, NOT from stillbirths or miscarriages?

Your gratuitous insult aside, there’s nothing at all wrong with my analogy. American women, and their children, were protected from thalidomide because the FDA does move slowly. Have you forgotten what happened when researchers tried to race ahead, skipping animal research and going straight to human, using fetal cells (not embryonic) to treat Alzheimers’? The patients developed teratomas inside their skulls. I believe that was also in China.


28 posted on 06/14/2008 2:43:36 PM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: AntiKev
Huh? Are you an assuming anti-religious bigot?

We vehemently oppose embryonic stem cell research.

Go nuts on umbilical and adult. Those have proven results as seen here.
29 posted on 06/14/2008 2:55:38 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: nina0113; Crazieman

No, embryonic stem cells can come from stillbirths and miscarriages.

Animal research does not necessarily correlate to human results. In the end, it comes down to whether or not we have the cojones to test on humans. Willing and completely informed participants of course, not willy-nilly.

To Crazie:

No, I’m not an anti-religious bigot. I just choose not to believe. My biggest issue with the stance of completely opposing embryonic stem cells is the fact that if the baby is already dead, what harm is there in using the stem cells for research? I completely agree that creating a market for aborted fetuses is bad, if the fetuses are aborted specifically for the stem cells.

Think of it like this, I’m a corn farmer and I pick corn for food, but my crop has failed, I’ve only got greenery to show for it and not a single ear of corn. Is it wrong for me to sell the rest of the biomass for biodiesel production?

Like a poster just above me stated, following your “logic” we should outlaw organ donations, many donors are kept alive just to keep the organs ripe for harvest, others are pronounced early in order for doctors to get at the organs because they have a patient who needs one. How is that any different?


30 posted on 06/14/2008 5:58:07 PM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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The stem cells were obtained from umbilical cords of healthy babies and were not embryonic stem cells from a human embryo.  Umbilical stem cell treatment is not approved in the United States for her condition, experts have said.

While Kacie's eyesight improvements may be slow, Marinda Sallee plans to post any news on Kacie's Web site at www.kacieshope4vision.com. Their China journey can be read at http://stemcellschina.com/blog/kacie. "There may be weeks you will not have change, and then you notice something different," Marinda Sallee said. "We can't wait to see what tomorrow's is."

 

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31 posted on 06/14/2008 9:31:28 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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32 posted on 06/14/2008 9:35:54 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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She also can count fingers when they are held about four inches away from her face, she said.

"Count fingers" is a quick & dirty way to assess visual acuity. It's handy to determine the need for emergency eye treatment.

35 posted on 06/15/2008 12:29:59 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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