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Therapy in China gives blind Ark. girl some sight
The Cabin ^ | JOANNE BRATTON

Posted on 06/14/2008 7:46:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

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1 posted on 06/14/2008 7:46:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten

Which China?


2 posted on 06/14/2008 7:48:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Dr. Marten

This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.


3 posted on 06/14/2008 7:48:44 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: yldstrk

There’s only one China.


4 posted on 06/14/2008 7:49:53 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Poundstone

Yep. Certainly is. There are some on this forum who want to completely ban stem cell research, no matter the source of the cells.


5 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:12 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

If only we had Nationalized health care................

6 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:58 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

Another thing you can blame on the Democrat party. Democrats want to do anything to sanctify abortion, so they all oppose any stem cell funding that specifically exempts cells harvested from dead babies. They only care about people like this child, or Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox only as long as it helps them to advance the cause of mainstreaming the murder of the unborn.

Me personally, I think we should fund such research, provided the cells are not harvested from murdered babies. When my baby is born, I plan to donate the cord blood for such research.

7 posted on 06/14/2008 7:56:31 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: AntiKev
There are some on this forum who want to completely ban stem cell research, no matter the source of the cells.

I've never seen anyone post that. Many of us are vehemently opposed to embryonic stem cell usage.

I've been getting some people to think about the issue IRL by pointing out how limited money for research really is and 'don't you think it should be spent on treatments that WORK?'

I'm very happy to read about another one.

8 posted on 06/14/2008 8:16:29 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US. Ridiculous that it isn’t.

That's what pregnant American women said about that miracle morning-sickness drug which was only available in Europe. You know - thalidomide.

9 posted on 06/14/2008 8:18:01 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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I have.

Here’s the big thing about embryonic stem cells. If the child was already dead (stillborn, aborted, miscarried or whatever) then what does it matter how the cells are used? If the child was specifically aborted to use the cells, that’s a different story.

The funding is low, but the payoff is so high that we need to be doing the research. I’m not a big fan of people who are so stuck in their beliefs that they want to stand in the way of human progress.


10 posted on 06/14/2008 8:19:59 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: nina0113

Why don’t you go put on a full body condom, a respirator and a helmet? That will protect you from most anything that could go wrong.

Sometimes we as scientists make mistakes. It happens. Making the analogy that you have here is a false one and you should think it through a little bit more.

We’re taught to manage risk as best as we can, but at some point you have to decide, release your product or scrap the research. Nothing in life is 100% assured or safe, and there’s no reason to pretend that it should be.


11 posted on 06/14/2008 8:23:38 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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I have to admit I am shocked. They helped a ‘girl’? In China?


12 posted on 06/14/2008 8:24:08 AM PDT by Fawn (We live in the Greatest country in the world, And I HOPE to CHANGE that -- Hussien Obama)
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It’s because of where some people think THAT will lead to. If you use the stem cells regardless of where they came from, some people THINK it MAY lead someone to have a baby JUST for the stem cells and kill it. It’s the same with gun shows....people don’t want to stop criminals from getting them at Gun Shows through a new law, because it MIGHT lead to OTHER laws at Gun Stores.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 8:28:11 AM PDT by Fawn (We live in the Greatest country in the world, And I HOPE to CHANGE that -- Hussien Obama)
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To: Dr. Marten

I don’t know that I would eat a shrimp sandwich in China.


14 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:18 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: Fawn

Yeah well most people don’t think, of the remainder most don’t do it well. That’s as far as I’m going to go with that quote.


15 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:23 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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Why don’t you go put on a full body condom, a respirator and a helmet?

keep quiet the army is thinking abou that

16 posted on 06/14/2008 8:43:17 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Support your local conservatives.)
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To: Poundstone

agree.

but there will be those on this forum who disagree.


17 posted on 06/14/2008 9:12:09 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Dr. Marten
There’s only one China.

All power comes from the barrel of a gun,eh?

18 posted on 06/14/2008 9:22:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Poundstone
This kind of therapy should be made available in the US.
Ridiculous that it isn’t.


If it isn't available in California, you'd have to give major credit
to The Los Angeles Times. That rag did make one big push to
strangle the use of cord-blood/umbilical stem cells.
The article, if it truly reflected the attitude of The LA Times
staff, could be summed up as "It's Embryonic Stem Cells,
or NOTHING!".
Apparently, the LA Times believes in "diversity"...except for
some areas of medical research.
Not a suprising POV as the LA Times was a major cheer-leader in
passage of the initiative to spend $3-$6 Billion dollars on
ESC research.

A couple of years ago, they ran a page-one article in their Sunday
edition that was a hit-piece on umbilical stem cell usage and
cord-blood banks.
In the article, the writers even did a bit of pimping for an
Orange County lawyer that was hoping to file a class-action lawsuit
against cord-blood banks. The lawyer was lamenting that he just
couldn't find enough clients.
(VOA: I have no idea if the lawyer found sufficient clients and/or
has filed the lawsuit.)

My general impression is that the article was written in a fit
of pique over the success of adult/umbilical stem cells
and as of the time of the article, none for embryonic stem cells.

In interests of full disclosure: I prefer the use of what works.
Which for the present moment, seems to be adult/cord-blood/umbilical type
of stem cells.
As for ESCs, they may yet prove to be great therapuetic agents,
but it sure seems like it's a slow-motion Manhattan Project in
bringing them into the medicinal armory.
But, realistically, that's often the story of research.
19 posted on 06/14/2008 9:26:42 AM PDT by VOA
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To: AntiKev

Really? Can you cite that without going to too much trouble?


20 posted on 06/14/2008 9:26:45 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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