Posted on 06/14/2008 11:16:59 PM PDT by lainie
Black Congregations Feel Marginalized by Uproar
A vast distance separates Obama from the church he quit last month, as hurt feelings continue to fester on both sides. Obama, his patience exhausted by the most recent controversial remark from a pastor, said in late May, "Our relations with Trinity have been strained." And some of the church's 8,000 members -- as well as some other black pastors -- feel abandoned, betrayed and misunderstood after their contentious turn in the national spotlight.
This was not how it was supposed to be. Obama, the biracial presidential candidate who has pledged to unite Democrats and Republicans, rich and poor, blacks and whites, was going to provide an opening for Trinity and other black churches to shatter their stereotypes and bolster their national presence. Instead, a landslide of negative video of Trinity's pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., and right-wing political attacks left Obama's former church and others like it even more marginalized and vilified.
As the controversy over Trinity crescendoed earlier this month, the church's new pastor, Otis Moss III, released a statement to his congregation: "We, the community of Trinity, are concerned, hurt, shocked, dismayed, frustrated, fearful and heartbroken. . . . We are a wounded people and our wounds, the bruises from our encounter with history, have scarred our very souls."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
At the very core of its mission, Trinity seeks to reveal and broadcast racial inequalities. A product of black liberation theology, it teaches members to identify with their African roots and take pride in the African American experience. Sermons sometimes mingle biblical lessons with those learned from slavery or the civil rights movement.
Last month, when asked why he wanted to preach at Trinity, Moss said: "This is a place where the struggle continues, where you can talk about real issues. We can recognize social injustice and then take it on."
I hope this thread isn’t removed, because it appears almost as if the WP dares people to talk about these issues.
Anybody know anything about the two authors? Eli Saslow and Hamil R. Harris
Wright’s rants, race-baiting and moonbat theories have nothing to do with the Gospel.
And his embrace of Louis Farrakhan goes against the Gospel.
It is not the fault of conservatives to point this out. There is everything wrong about it.
I agree. The purveyors of political correctness shouldn't be allowed to get away with skating with an article like this.
Obama is not even president yet, and already, he and his pastors have done more not only to divide blacks and whites than any presidential candidate in recent history. Obama has also done more to divide the Demoractic Party itself than any Democratic party candidate in recent history, managing to alienate female white voters who backed Hilary Clinton, and who have voted Democrat for life. Obama is the most divisive candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
BS.
Obama has not renounced his pastor or his church.
That was plainly set up because of falling ratings.
I can picture it now; after the election Obama, Wright, Farrakhan, Sharpton and Jesse (spit in the white folk’s food) Jackson get together in the White House, break out the scotch and cigars and laugh about how they conned whitey.
Let those poor dejected people reap what they have sown. Anyone who sits there Sunday after Sunday listening to the ‘’sermons’’ at that ‘’church’’ shouldn’t be surprised about anything that has happened.
Of course, playing victim is a way of life there and they won’t think that maybe they brought all this on themselves.
Those same Hillary supporters will vote Obama, though, don’t you think? Not that McCain isn’t “centrist” or “moderate” enough to attract them. (Don’t get me started.)
Jeremiah Wright is quoted as saying that islam is the “sheep of another fold” that Jesus spoke about.
Now he’s either lying or incredibly ignorant of the Scriptures. Especially now with all we know that the koran and the hadiths have to say on the subject.
And Pfleger, or whatever his name is, called him “one of the greatest Biblical scholars”.
Laughable at the very least ... or diabolic at the very worst.
You are 1000% correct.
Exactly why it’s a good thing to shine a light on this uncovered rock. imo
I’ve seen a lefty pundit mock those who openly wonder about Obama’s Muslim heritage by wondering incredulously, “they declare he’s a Muslim at the same time they’re mad about his ties to the pastor at Trinity Christian church.”
Abandoned and betrayed, perhaps, but they are very well understood.
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A statement of renewed victimhood. I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya. Not.
"It is a particular tension around him and his church and his pastor that was very public," the Rev. Jesse Jackson said. "That does not affect how he deals with the entire black church. . . . He met with a group of ministers last week. He has met with labor leaders. He has gone to college campuses. He has done my radio show."
But political and religious experts said Obama's departure from Trinity has become a symbol of the further marginalization of black churches.
Let's dissect this.
(you said it, sister)
Obeymao is doing more to divide this nation along racial lines than anyone I can remember. To think he is going to "heal" this nation's racial divisions is a laughable fantasy on the part of pie-in-the-sky liberal loon-bats.
Anyone that attends a church for 20 years where hate is a part of their message is incapable of doing such a thing, regardless of his "intentions." Obeymao is a fool if he thought his long term relationship with that church would somehow go unnoticed as he ran for POTUS, and the congregants of that church are also fools for thinking he could continue in a relationship with them while running for POTUS, regardless of how transparently politically expedient his "departure" was. Even after he left them, he claimed it was because he didn't want the church to be damaged anymore, not because it was a bad church. The foolishness of this man and his former fellow parishoners is really quite astounding
Each is equally delusional, and seemingly incapable of doing or saying the right thing.
Each made their bed with Rev Wright, now each can sleep in that soiled bed until they get enough sense to leave that kind of hate out of their lives, permanently. Where the heck these people get the idea that his message is suitable for the masses, and should be overlooked, I'll never know. What a bunch of idiots.
As we all know, a recurring theme in the Bible. :-/
How may times are we supposed to have to listen to the racial epithet “whitey”, before we get offended? Yes, its offensive.
Which encounter with history? Their Washington Post-described "black liberation theology?" Isn't it based on living in the slavery-tinged past at the same time calling itself progressive?
Even their golden boy doesn't share this slave history with other congregation members. His father was Kenyan and he was born here.
Or do they mean their current brush with fame? Didya hear, one of their own hit the 'big leagues!'
Probably the first one.
David John Matthews, Naturalized American citizen
born January 9, 1967, Johannesburg, South Africa
I think they mean the current situation. It doesn’t really matter everything is turned into a victim card. But it’s pretty laughable that they use the event of the first black man to be a major nominee for President as an example of their suffering. They couldn’t possibly bear any responsibility for that candidate having to distance himself from them. No, it’s not their fault that even he couldn’t continue to defend their lunatic hate speech.
.” And some of the church’s 8,000 members — as well as some other black pastors — feel abandoned, betrayed and misunderstood
Abandoned ... yep
Betrayed ... Yep
Misunderstood ... Not even close, rampant unchecked racism that is the core of the obama “movement”, revealed via dvds SOLD BY THE “CHURCH”
*nod*
Really? Interesting. I was sure it was the victim card #1, but you might be right.
you and Jeff are on the same wavelength.
Now I am, too.
LOL I don’t know which one they really intended. Whichever one is working would be my guess.
Most of the "bruises" these people have suffered the past several generations have been self inflicted and the scars are mentally inflicted by asinine pastors and corrupt poverty pimps.
Folks really need to grow up, stand up, get educated, stop having bastard children and get to work improving their own lives....
They should take a look at how other folks who have PERSONALLY suffered horribly from war, genocide, flood, tornado, crime, etc, etc,........QUICKLY get on their feet - get moving and get on with their lives....
Where in hell is it written that America's blacks are entitled to cradle to grave care FOREVER?
Now they know how I feel when I see them cheering for that racist scumbag Wright and the other purveyors of lies within that so-called "church."
This article sounds like one of those "poor little Palestinians" stories.
You know, the articles that call us to pity them after they threaten violence against Israel.
Both evil mobs bring about their own suffering due to their hatred, corruption, blasphemy and a litany of other sins.
These fools have it all wrong.
They are racists, pure and simple.
Most rational Americans are disgusted by their racism, and this "Trinity Church" saw National outrage and backlash as a result of their unnecessary hatred.
Wright should have been arrested on charges of public endangerment, disturbing the peace and inciting a riot.
The people who cheered for that atrocious man are blinded by their hatred and contempt for white people, and it is an unjustifiable racism that unites them together.
Villains and scumbags, all.
It sounds as if the Reverennnnnnd Moss plagiarized this directly out of the DSM.
The section describing Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Sounds like one of those unhappy Hillary supporters. Maybe he and his congregation will vote for McCain, too.
Why would one want to continue the “struggle”? Stop struggling! Make no mistake, these people are dead on Communists. What more do people need to see to understand that? It seems less a church and more a meeting place for the future Politburo to incite the proletariat.
“A correction: It was very nearly every white person in the country that took issue. Even Democrats were taken aback.”
I spend a lot of time with terrific a young Marine who happens to be black. He and his family are just as upset and disgusted as any white regarding the lies and racist rhetoric that’s been coming from the Trinity pulpit.
All racist groups have their own individual “gospel”.
And there in lies the rub, the very core reason we will remain divided. The reason we cannot discuss race is the lack of the willingness of the other side to openly discuss the issues.
My wife is as white as the December snow and she is African American.
Other reporters have at least been honest enough to admit that no one at TUCC is talking to the media. The church-goers and staff walk past reporters, don't answer phone calls and have -- I'm sure by agreement with the Obama campaign -- erected a wall of silence.
This article's just one more tired entry in the "media for Obama" propaganda campaign.
This is the exact same wording that Muslims hear in their mosques. When I first saw the video of the ranting Rev. Wright, I was struck by how much he sounded like the imams who were filmed while “preaching” by an undercover BBC program. The Palis and all Muslims are “oppressed” by the racism of the white Western civilization, and that is the same message as black liberation theology. Here is some of the video courtesy of LGF:
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Undercover_Mosque&only
"All we wanted to do was to 'hate Whitey' in peace, and Obama's made it all political now..."
So when I get betrayed like that, they've earned my wrath and utter disdain for anything they hope and desire. They can go pound sand, think about changing their attitude, and try again later. I'm done with them otherwise, and I will fight tooth and nail against any concession they demand based on race.
You know, my best new buddy at work is a genius. He taught me some of the most amazing technical methods to improve my knowledge of the industry. The guys reshaped my approach on what I do, and now I'm probably at a level 85% of where he stands as one of the foremost brilliant minds in the field. He's brown, and I never really thought about it because since I came to Florida some 20 years ago, half the girls I've dated were brown.
It was only recently I found out he considered himself black. It was actually hilarious when I learned that. It was last MLK day when he asked "What holiday is it supposed to be?" and another buddy who's black responded "You're a black guy, right?" like he was going to kick him out of the club. It was NOT a good moment to be drinking anything, because most people just lost it completely laughing.
Anyway, I don't care, he's a buddy and more than that, my professor, my mentor and a pal. My only hope is that I can do as much for him as he has helped me.
Why do some assholes on the outside of such friendships have to inject race? We're doing just fine without them!
These folks in the Church can go jump in the lake. They probably never made an effort to be accepted in society and never gave it a chance. I don't want anything to do with them until they are willing to reject the racist hate message they embrace. I'm done with them.
Sounds to me like the racists, the Marxists, their useful idiots and the Goebbels propaganda press are trying to grease the skids for the next round of Jim Crow laws that will favor the racists, the Marxists, their useful idiots and the Goebbels propaganda press.
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