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Papers give peek inside al Qaeda in Iraq
CNN ^ | Wed June 11, 2008 1:14 p.m. EDT, | Michael Ware CNN Correspondent

Posted on 06/15/2008 7:32:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Editor's Note: In this exclusive report, CNN's Michael Ware examines the largest collection of al Qaeda in Iraq documents ever to fall into civilian hands, discovering surprises about how the insurgents operate and clues about their strength today.

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An Iraqi army officer shows a fake ID taken off an al Qaeda suspect in Mosul in May.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- With Christmas 2005 approaching, the princes of al Qaeda's western command were gathering. They'd been summoned for something special: to plot a three-month campaign of coordinated suicide, rocket and infantry attacks on American bases, checkpoints and Iraqi army positions.

In al Qaeda in Iraq's hierarchy, prince designates a senior leader, and these princes had been gathered by the most senior among them, the prince of Anbar province itself.

This commander, his name not recorded in al Qaeda's summaries of the meetings and referred to only by rank, spent that December fleshing out his vision for the wave of assaults with the gathered subordinates who would lead his combat brigades.

The gathering was a council of war, its meetings remarkably detailed in al Qaeda records. In minutes of their secretive meetings, a grim notation was made: Operation Desert Shield had been approved and would "hopefully commence in mid-January 2006." Video Watch how al Qaeda used videoed executions in their battle (Warning: This report contains graphic images) »

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedainiraq; aq; awakeningcouncil; iraq

1 posted on 06/15/2008 7:32:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

I don’t think this has been posted...


2 posted on 06/15/2008 7:37:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Michael Ware tosses in some extraneous digs at the USA, but what this material proves is that Al Qaeda in Iraq had to be defeated, yet our Demagogues wanted to cut-and-run at every point in the past several years.

Now that we are approaching a high level of success in crushing AQI, which Demagogues and media figures will step forward to acknowledge how badly they mis-judged the situation, and how catastrophic it would have been to allow these bloody barbarians to win?

Obama wants AQI to rule Iraq. Of course he and his flacks will say that’s not what he wants, but that is what he would have allowed so eagerly by withdrawing our troops precipitously.


3 posted on 06/15/2008 7:42:47 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good post, but this quote is bizarre.

"That awareness led al Qaeda to start killing tribesmen and nationalist insurgents wherever they began to rally against it, long before America ever realized that it had potential allies to turn to."

I wrote this editorial in 2005. See the third paragraph. Clearly, I knew we had potential allies to turn to. If I knew it, I'm pretty sure many people in America's defense community realized that it had a potential allies to turn to. I discussed this subject with many soldiers and marines in Iraq at the time. Perhaps TIME should just say that it's all news to them that the tribes in al Anbar were about to turn on al Qaeda.

4 posted on 06/15/2008 8:04:33 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Excellent !


5 posted on 06/15/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: elhombrelibre
"That awareness led al Qaeda to start killing tribesmen and nationalist insurgents wherever they began to rally against it, long before America ever realized that it had potential allies to turn to."

I wonder if that could be something the editors just dropped in there....as most of the article counters what I think they have been saying in all of their endless biased reporting?

Sortof...we would have known if the Bush Administration had told us....kind of a head scratcher....

6 posted on 06/15/2008 8:22:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: elhombrelibre
Even in this opening statement....

Editor's Note: In this exclusive report, CNN's Michael Ware examines the largest collection of al Qaeda in Iraq documents ever to fall into civilian hands, discovering surprises about how the insurgents operate and clues about their strength today.

....one would ask....

HOW DID THESE DOCUMENTS FALL INTO CIVILIAN HANDS?


7 posted on 06/15/2008 8:24:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
OK answer to my question just above...in the report:

The Awakening militiamen handed the massive haul of al Qaeda materials to both their U.S handlers from the Navy, Marine Corps and Army, and to CNN.

8 posted on 06/15/2008 8:28:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Enchante
Obama wants AQI to rule Iraq. Of course he and his flacks will say that’s not what he wants, but that is what he would have allowed so eagerly by withdrawing our troops precipitously.

He and his support group really don't care about Iraq,...but they do want to rule in Washington...and bringing the troops home they think is just the ticket to advance their desire to rule.

9 posted on 06/15/2008 8:30:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here is what I think. Even for TIME and some of the other MSM, it is obvious that al Qaeda in Iraq has lost. They cannot give Bush, the US military, or those who were fighting al Qaeda credit for seeing what was obvious and ongoing fighting early in 2005 between al Qaeda and Sunni tribes men (red on red is what the military called it).

Our military saw an opening to form an alliance with the tribes. They initiated; they nurtured it; they made it happen. Bush remained steadfast and wouldn't give up the fight. But to admit these things would mean that the whole MSM template that we were defeated was wrong from the beginning; we were never in as much danger of losing as they'd been telling the American people for over the last four years.

Another point. America has not been attacked in the US by al Qaeda since 9/11. How can this be when the MSM and much of Europe tells us we have the dumbest president in US history? Somehow we're to believe we've had this successful period without an attack despite the foolishness of Bush. And things are so bad because of Bush we must turn now to the most Leftwing candidate in the history of our nation. The MSM has a huge agenda as it reports on our world.

10 posted on 06/15/2008 8:45:44 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: elhombrelibre
OK...I absolutely agree and as we seem to have a lot of viewers that should realize that the Media is nothing but a tool for those on the left who want the power available in Washington.

And see this for documentation:

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It’s difficult to imagine they are so blatantly antiAmerican!

See this :

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left

And a review:

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By  Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
This review is from: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)
I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.
11 posted on 06/15/2008 8:52:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
And a new book:

Party of Defeat (Hardcover)

***************EXCERPT********************

From Publishers Weekly
Horowitz collaborates with his FrontPage Magazine coeditor Johnson in a vitriolic attack on the left's cowardly betrayal of the American cause, singling out the antiwar stances of John Edwards, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi for special reproach. According to the authors, a nation divided during wartime is a nation that invites its own defeat, and they argue that through ignorance and design, Democrats have obstructed presidential policy, undermined American security and continually failed to grasp the nature of the Islamofascist threat. Cataloguing Democratic miscalculations from the Carter administration on, the book asserts that Carter encouraged the Iranian revolution, Clinton fatally ignored bin Laden and Bush's wiretapping program was perniciously leaked to the New York Times.

12 posted on 06/15/2008 8:58:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I need to buy it and read it.


13 posted on 06/15/2008 8:58:34 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Somehow I knew that there had to be something unusual about the distribution of this material. In this case, copies were made not only for the military but were given to CNN as well. If CNN had not been a potential fly in the ointment it is likely we, the public, would never have had access to this cache. The military and intelligence agencies consider every bit of intel they find the equivalent of the crown jewells. They squirrel the stuff away, afraid that somehow “the public” will gain some knowledge as to insider and terrorist operations. The intellegence motto: TAKE BUT NEVER GIVE!


14 posted on 06/15/2008 9:06:33 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior

And if the military had not been given a copy ,...CNN would have been free to spin them any way they wished....


15 posted on 06/15/2008 9:30:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"...through ignorance and design, Democrats have obstructed presidential policy, undermined American security and continually failed to grasp the nature of the Islamofascist threat."

Way too kind...Democrat actions LED TO THE DEATH OF MANY MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY.

16 posted on 06/15/2008 10:10:23 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: jveritas
ping...
17 posted on 06/15/2008 11:08:33 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: elhombrelibre
I wrote this editorial in 2005. See the third paragraph.

Excellent! Good on you!

Were you in Iraq for Election Day in 2005? I've always thought that was the big turning point. It was followed by very turbulent events for a couple of years, but I always thought that was where Iraqis started to recognize that they had a stake in their own future. They were still too rattled from the Saddam era prior to that.

That day still remains one of the most fascinating experiences I've had in Iraq.

18 posted on 06/15/2008 11:39:54 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Allegra
I missed the election, Allegra. But I had friends in Military Civil Affairs who were very active in making it happen. I couldn't be more proud of them and the Iraqis who stepped up to start a self-governing nation.
19 posted on 06/15/2008 12:03:05 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: elhombrelibre; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great article, Hombre! If you published it earlier on the boards, in 2005, I missed it. Shame on me.


20 posted on 06/15/2008 12:45:13 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Thanks to George Bush one of the worst dictators in recent history has been ousted along with his terrorist support and wmd programs. Al Qaeda has been almost totally destroyed as an operational force and discreted by millions of moral Muslims. We now have two operational democratic governments in the mid-east whereas before there were none. We also had another terrorist supporting regime, Libya, give up its wmd weapons programs. How anybody can say we are not a whole lot better off than before we went into Afghanistan and Iraq is clearly possessed with BDS to the point of not being able to see the facts in front of their eyes.


21 posted on 06/15/2008 1:15:33 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
The Marxists have an Agenda and they can't allow President Bush get any recognition with any success anywhere...it disturbs their Agenda...see post #11....
22 posted on 06/15/2008 1:59:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All

Happy Father’s Day to all of the Dad’s on the Forum...


23 posted on 06/15/2008 2:00:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Enchante
Obama wants AQI to rule Iraq. Of course he and his flacks will say that’s not what he wants, but that is what he would have allowed so eagerly by withdrawing our troops precipitously.

He has got to protect his base, his money base that is. How else do you think he has been able to raise such record amounts of money except through his middle eastern masters funneling it to him through every convenience store worker in Detroit and Chicago via the inter-net.

24 posted on 06/15/2008 2:59:49 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19)
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks


25 posted on 06/15/2008 9:16:59 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

CNN will spin the information any way it wants to, any time it wants to, and there is damned little you, I or the military can do about it. The fact that both the military and the press had the same material made it more difficult for them to do so. Also, please note the time that elapsed between the capture of the documents and their publicity. That of itself is very interesting.


26 posted on 06/16/2008 7:19:09 AM PDT by Melchior
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Thanks E.


27 posted on 06/16/2008 8:50:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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