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Perot, Back On the Charts
Washington Post ^ | June 15, 2008 | David S. Broder

Posted on 06/15/2008 3:18:45 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Sixteen years after he shook up American politics by launching an impromptu campaign for president, Ross Perot is about to dip a toe back into the public debates. And, yes, he's bringing his charts with him to make his point.

Beginning today, people who go to http://www.perotcharts.com will find the Dallas billionaire waiting to challenge them on one of his favorite subjects -- the "ruin" he says America is courting with its spendthrift ways.

"We are right at the edge of the cliff," the voice with the unmistakable Texas twang informed me when I called him the other day to find out about this latest venture. "We can't go on spending money we don't have."

That is not a new theme for Perot. It was his core message when he did his on-again, off-again, then back-on-again race against George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton in 1992. He led the field in the early months and, even after the confusing signals sent by his dropping out and coming back, he won more than 19.7 million votes -- almost 20 percent of the total.

His real triumph, however, was a policy victory. With simple charts that he designed and displayed on prime-time television "infomercials," he managed to convey to millions of voters the stark reality of what the record deficits of the 1980s really meant...."

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H. Ross Perot is back!.....like Toe Fungus.
1 posted on 06/15/2008 3:18:47 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Ears vs. Ears.


2 posted on 06/15/2008 3:20:42 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Dear Ross,
You already ruined us with 8 years of the Clintons.

PS. Just go away please........faster.....

3 posted on 06/15/2008 3:21:12 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I miss Dana Carvey.
4 posted on 06/15/2008 3:21:40 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Two things in life that a most regretful about. Voting for Perot and not having Children in that order
To my country Im so sorry for voting for Perot that was before Free Republic


5 posted on 06/15/2008 3:21:55 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"H. Ross Perot is back!.....like Toe Fungus."

I guess he feels he didn't screw thing up enough and wants another crack at it.

6 posted on 06/15/2008 3:23:09 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

He misses the attention.


7 posted on 06/15/2008 3:24:21 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Spendthrift ways? Blame Congress


8 posted on 06/15/2008 3:26:21 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

David Broder is a man who thinks entirely in cliches.


9 posted on 06/15/2008 3:27:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politician's BS.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"He misses the attention."

He should just shut the hell up.

10 posted on 06/15/2008 3:28:49 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

11 posted on 06/15/2008 3:33:10 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Perot’s senile babbling these days will make John McCain look like virtuoso of wide spectrum, impromptu communication!


12 posted on 06/15/2008 3:33:37 PM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol_dku1dMdM


13 posted on 06/15/2008 3:40:27 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: mkjessup
"Perot’s senile babbling these days will make John McCain look like virtuoso of wide spectrum, impromptu communication!"

Perot is a slobbering idiot if I take your meaning. That was not aimed at John McCain so don't blast me.

14 posted on 06/15/2008 3:42:01 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223; Anti-Bubba182

“Perot is a slobbering idiot if I take your meaning.”
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Of course. Aren’t all self-made billionaires?


15 posted on 06/15/2008 3:50:58 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

If Ross Perot is weird and funny, that must mean that his message of economic ruin is wrong, right? I mean, we can just go on spending like there’s no tomorrow without ever having to pay the piper.

Hey, morons, economic pain is coming and you’ll wish it was the summer of ‘08 again when you only had to pay $4 for a gallon of gas.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 3:53:19 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Fools get what they deserve in the end. You are responsible for the government that enslaves you.)
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To: al baby
Voting for Perot and not having Children in that order

Never too late. Even if you have to adopt.

17 posted on 06/15/2008 3:53:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Of course. Aren’t all self-made billionaires?"

I take it you are fan of Ross Perot. He didn't start off an idiot. He just worked his way into the position.

18 posted on 06/15/2008 3:59:09 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: MichiganConservative
"If Ross Perot is weird and funny, that must mean that his message of economic ruin is wrong, right?"

Ross Perot gave us two terms of Bubba and The Bitch. Don't try to sell me that his motives were altruistic.

19 posted on 06/15/2008 4:03:54 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223; MichiganConservative
Ross Perot gave us two terms of Bubba and The Bitch. Don't try to sell me that his motives were altruistic.

No, a stupid electorate that voted for Bush Sr. after he broke his promise of "read my lips, NO NEW TAXES" gave us 8 years of "Bubba and the Bitch."

I take it by your protestations, you're one of those voters, blackbart.......

20 posted on 06/15/2008 4:09:29 PM PDT by usconservative (www.ropma.net -->ISLAM is NOT a religion of peace, it is a CULT of DEATH.)
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To: Lakeshark
You already ruined us with 8 years of the Clintons.

Nope, that would have been Daddy Bush.

21 posted on 06/15/2008 4:13:05 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: usconservative
"I take it by your protestations, you're one of those voters, blackbart......."

Yes. I voted for both. Maybe they were the best selection but they were not hucksters to the level Perot is. But what the hell. We are screwed anyway.

22 posted on 06/15/2008 4:15:14 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Now we’ve got the mother of giant sucking sounds.


23 posted on 06/15/2008 4:15:35 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
This can only mean that he wants to be a King maker by splitting the conservative vote again.
24 posted on 06/15/2008 4:17:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Never insult an alligator until you have crossed the river.)
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To: politicalwit
Nope, that would have been all the fools that voted for Clinton added to all the bigger fools who voted for Clinton by voting for Perot, thinking they were teaching Bush a lesson.
25 posted on 06/15/2008 4:18:13 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

I will never regret voting for Perot and have no shame for standing for what I believed was right for our country then, and now.

Our country needs to be operated by businessmen and not lawyers/politicians.
We are lamenting the two party system is not representing the people’s demands. Perot gave us a chance to get a 3rd party involved in mainstream politics as a force to be recognized.
The attacks on Perot and his family were sleezy. No wonder we can’t get the brightest minds to run for President because respect is not a quality of mainstream politics.


26 posted on 06/15/2008 4:18:39 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44
Perot was a nutcase with a vendetta.

But it would be better if we had businessmen running the country, just not nutcases.......

27 posted on 06/15/2008 4:21:30 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He must be needing some money to fill his coffers again. Watch out for the next scam he runs on the unsuspecting public.


28 posted on 06/15/2008 4:26:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Lakeshark
bigger fools who voted for Clinton by voting for Perot

You seem to be a bit confused. People voted for Perot because he didn't represent the lamestream candidates Bush and Clinton. It wasn't a vote against Bush or a vote for Clinton...it was a vote for a candidate that actually had some good ideas.

It's only a fool that votes for the lesser of two evils.

29 posted on 06/15/2008 4:26:50 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: o_zarkman44

Perot was a charlatan.


30 posted on 06/15/2008 4:27:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: o_zarkman44
The attacks on Perot and his family were sleezy.

Perot was a lying sleaze bucket! He said that "the people" wanted him to run after his appearance on Larry King Live and that is when he decided to get into the race. HUGE, BALDFACED LIE! His campaign had been in place for a good while before he went on Larry King. LIAR! Plus Perot said the rich should pay more taxes but then it was revealed he had invested almost all of his money in tax-free municipals. FRAUD, HYPOCRIT! Plus it was so obvious he was just trying to SCREW Bush41, someone he despised. He decides to drop out of the campiagn when Clinton was well ahead and just when Bush 41 catches up, GOLLY, big ears decides to rejoin the race.

31 posted on 06/15/2008 4:28:42 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: MichiganConservative
his message of economic ruin is wrong, right?

That's right. He is full of bologna. Also, he has no solution. It's all about the oil.

32 posted on 06/15/2008 4:29:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Lakeshark

That nutcase you describe is a self made billionaire.
somehow I don’t see irrational and deranged people making it big in business.

It takes a special person to rise above the scum.
An intellectual President is a threatening icon over the dumbed down people we call congress. That was the threat that Perot brought to the table. The federal book cookers knew they would be exposed if a businessman were to become President.

As for the nutcases, we already seem to elect the finest like Murtha and Pelousey and reid and Kennedy and look what they have given America. And the two choices we have for President are real winners when we live in a dumbed down society. I will be voting Libertarian this year for Mr Bob Barr and could care less about everyone else who wastes their vote on dumbo ears and McJuan.


33 posted on 06/15/2008 4:31:24 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: politicalwit
Most people I knew who voted for Perot grew up and realized what they had done later.

Which was to be fooled by Perot and the moment. I know about a dozen or so who will admit that.

I commend their good sense, at least they now understand what they did.

34 posted on 06/15/2008 4:33:24 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: o_zarkman44
Warren Buffet is far greater as a businessman that Ross Perot. I would never vote for him though. Maybe as dog catcher.

Perot was great at some things, I have respect for a lot of things he did. His 1992 run is not one of them.

35 posted on 06/15/2008 4:35:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

So...who are you going to be fooled by...McCain or Obama?


36 posted on 06/15/2008 4:35:42 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He was 100% wrong on NAFTA but I wish him luck in getting government to stop spending like there is no tomorrow.


37 posted on 06/15/2008 4:37:23 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: AmericaUnited

“He said that “the people” wanted him to run after his appearance on Larry King Live and that is when he decided to get into the race. HUGE, BALDFACED LIE! “

Nobody enters a Presidential race without contemplating for months or years prior to making a final decision.
As for the rich paying more taxes, isn’t that the staple of every politician in our society of “lets redistribute the wealth’?

So what if clintoon got elected. We didn’t melt down because a Republican wasn’t President. Both partys were out to get Perot because they don’t like intelligent competition.


38 posted on 06/15/2008 4:37:58 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Reagan Man

Unlike some of the other presidential candidates in the last 42 years?


39 posted on 06/15/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: politicalwit
It's quite the dillemma we're in yes?

A full bore Marxist vs. one approaching the edges......

Not fun.

40 posted on 06/15/2008 4:47:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

H. Ross is a funny guy. He was born and raised in Texarkana, and is an alumnus (’49) of my high school, Texas High, as well as being by far the best-known son of that city. (Scott Joplin was actually born in Linden.) His folks (the Perotts) were imports from Louisiana; his parents were Texarkana business big shots, and ran one of the biggest cotton gins in the city for many years. He grew up in a modest but lovely little house in the nice part of the city, and was a hard worker from the very beginning.

Yet despite all this, the name Perot is little known in Texarkana today. Back in the 1980s he paid to have the old Saenger Theatre renovated and named for his parents — but besides that ol’ H. Ross pretty much knocked the dust of the town from his feet when he split for the Naval Academy in ‘49. At my high school there is no Perot Band Hall or Perot Field or Perot Scholarship. Texarkana College, which he briefly attended, likewise has no Perot legacy. The city boasts no Perot Park or Perot Square or Perot Award for Civic Excellence. In fact, to my knowledge, H. Ross Perot has given nothing (other than the aforementioned theater) to the city that produced him.

Not that he has any obligation to do so, of course. It’s his money, and he earned it honestly. But still, you’d think that one of the richest men in America (net worth $4B+) could spare a little something for “Dear Old Texas High” or some other part of the town he came from. As far as I know, however, he hasn’t given the city or anyone in it a thing (other than the theater) since he left. He no longer lives there, of course, and he never placed one of his businesses there. He even had his folks exhumed from their graves in Texarkana and their bodies moved to Dallas, where he lives today.

Again: nothing wrong with spending one’s own money any way one wants. Still, it’s kind of odd.

But, in a way, I almost understand why. While I was born and raised in East Dallas, I lived in Texarkana during my junior high and high school years, and I have to admit there is a sort of stifling, almost malevolent air of stasis about that town. The city is literally located in the middle of nowhere, halfway between Dallas and Little Rock, and, on the couple of occasions when I have passed through the city on my way elsewhere, I’ve noted that other than cosmetics little has changed in the decades since I left. Texarkana always seemed to me a self-contained world, insulated in many ways from Reality. There are many kind and good people in Texarkana, of course, but many people I know have become psychologically trapped there. There’s just something... dead... about that city, in my opinion.

Maybe Ross Perot felt that way too. I know that once he got out, he never looked back.

Anyway, I wouldn’t vote for the guy.


41 posted on 06/15/2008 4:49:10 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: blackbart.223
Perot is a slobbering idiot if I take your meaning. That was not aimed at John McCain so don't blast me.

Not at all FRiend, thanks to Perot we got eight years of the Clintonistas, and for that Perot should have to watch that 'crazy aunt in the attic' he kept yappin' about get the cigar treatment from Emperor Billigula for the next 100 years.

I know what you meant, and I'm with ya!
42 posted on 06/15/2008 4:49:43 PM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Geez I thought he was dead. Maybe he just looks dead. What an a$$. Saw his son on CNBC a few weeks back. BS’in chip off the old block.
43 posted on 06/15/2008 4:49:46 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: o_zarkman44
So what if clintoon got elected. We didn’t melt down because a Republican wasn’t President.

Your attitude is just pathetic. Many of us do care deeply. Maybe you're not a citizen of the US of A and that's why the "no big deal"...

44 posted on 06/15/2008 4:51:23 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Ross Perot must be the secret weapon of the democrat party. I don't think it's a coincidence that Perot is thinking about joining another election that is a statistical tie. He will make Berry Hussein Obama president just like he did William Jefferson Clinton.
45 posted on 06/15/2008 4:53:54 PM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: o_zarkman44

Here! Here! It’s the only vote I’m truly proud of casting. He didn’t take my vote from Bush. If Perot hadn’t run, I would have stayed at home. I was not about to vote for “Read My Lips” or “I feel your pain”.

As for NAFTA, it looks to me like he was right. Lots of plants have closed because of NAFTA. It should be obvious to anyone that NAFTA was a bad idea simpley due to the fact that when Dole and Clinton agree on something, it can’t be good for the rest of us.


46 posted on 06/15/2008 4:58:24 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: B-Chan
"..He even had his folks exhumed from their graves in Texarkana and their bodies moved to Dallas, where he lives today..."

Interesting! He didn't want even his parents remains in rustic Texarkana.

47 posted on 06/15/2008 4:58:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: AmericaUnited

My “pathetic” attitude is that democracy has a way of balancing things if the right leaders are in office.

During the Clinton years, there was a GOP congressional majority that prevented a major meltdown. The 8 years of Clinton were pretty good years for me economically. Yeah there were a lot of things Clinton did or didn’t do that ticked me off. But I can say the same for GWB over the past 8 years too.

And I do care deeply. That is why my vote is never wasted or taken lightly. Too many people vote knee jerk, or single issue, or take one media moment as a campaign breaker or maker. Voting is not a simplistic exercize although the dumbed down, whats in it for me crowd is all about what’s good for them and not their country as a whole.


48 posted on 06/15/2008 5:06:52 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: purpleraine
No, just like.
49 posted on 06/15/2008 5:08:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Terry Mross
Here! Here!

GARRRRRGGHHHHH

The expression is "Hear, hear" — meaning "listen, everyone!" — not "here, here", which means nothing and makes no sense. "Hear, hear" originated in the British parliament in the 18th century as a contraction of "hear him, hear him". [Source]

Sorry. Pet peeve.

50 posted on 06/15/2008 5:08:41 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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