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Man kills baby and is shot to death by police
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | june 15, 2008 | Demian Bulwa

Posted on 06/15/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by driftdiver

A young Turlock man parked a pickup truck on a dark country road outside his Central Valley city Saturday night, removed a baby boy from a car seat and then viciously beat the child in the street, fighting off passersby who tried to stop him until he was fatally shot by a police officer whose helicopter landed in a nearby pasture, police said today.

The 27-year-old suspect died immediately where he fell. The child, who according to police appeared to be 12 to 24 months old, was rushed to a hospital but was soon pronounced dead as well.

Police officials declined to identify the man this morning and said they did not yet know who the child was - or what his relationship was to his attacker. No information was immediately available about the baby's mother.

The suspect "had tunnel vision," said Stanislaus County sheriff's deputy Royjindar Singh, a department spokesman. "As people tried to intervene, to tackle him, he just went back to what he was doing. Anything and everything he could do to the baby, that's what he was doing."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: animal; bang; banglist; childabuse; cops; disgusting; donutwatch; leo; sick
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too bad none of the witnesses had a firearm. although shooting was too good for this puke.
1 posted on 06/15/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

The world has gone insane.


2 posted on 06/15/2008 4:49:50 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Oh my! Disagreeing is now snide and a personal attack. How Obambi!)
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To: driftdiver
The police didn't have a choice. I feel sad for the little boy's death. No adult should ever lay his hands like that on a child.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 06/15/2008 4:50:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: driftdiver

A baseball bat to the head would have stopped him.


4 posted on 06/15/2008 4:51:20 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: driftdiver

5 posted on 06/15/2008 4:51:21 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: driftdiver

Horrible...Thank God the child went right to the Arms of the Lord.


6 posted on 06/15/2008 4:55:29 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: driftdiver

Saving the taxpayers a lot of $$.


7 posted on 06/15/2008 4:56:13 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: driftdiver
Being the San Francisco area, not many there are allowed to be armed. Isn't it awful that it nearly always takes a gun to stop criminals like this guy--and how law-abiding people (usually the first line of defense) aren't allowed to be armed.

Had a armed citizen been on the scene, chances are good that the poor child would be alive right now.

8 posted on 06/15/2008 4:56:13 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: OpusatFR
The world has gone insane.

The evil that has always roamed this planet, looking for whoever it might devour, has been ramping up exponentially.

God have mercy upon us.
9 posted on 06/15/2008 4:56:28 PM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: Kitty Mittens

And the scumbag right into the claws of the devil (i hope).


10 posted on 06/15/2008 4:57:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
“A baseball bat to the head would have stopped him.”

or a .45acp legally carried or not. In situations like this the law be damned

11 posted on 06/15/2008 4:58:41 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: B-Chan

I feel the same way.

He had to have been on something to have done that.


12 posted on 06/15/2008 5:01:26 PM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: mkjessup
The evil that has always roamed this planet, looking for whoever it might devour, has been ramping up exponentially.

unquestionably.

That reminds me. Time to say a Rosary.

13 posted on 06/15/2008 5:01:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (" ")
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To: driftdiver
"He refuses to comply with the orders and the officer fires," Singh said, "resulting in the death of the suspect."

*sniff* I love happy endings.

14 posted on 06/15/2008 5:03:09 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Polynikes

A good shoe strike to the temple probably would have sufficed. But it’s Kalifornia! Nobody wanted to hurt him! Me? I woulda kicked him in the throat!


15 posted on 06/15/2008 5:03:33 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: driftdiver

Evil. May the baby rest in peace.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 5:03:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Polynikes
You would think some motorist had a tire iron at least, a couple of big dents in the perp's head should stop most anyone who isn't high on PCP or something.
17 posted on 06/15/2008 5:04:17 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: antiRepublicrat

No happy ending for the baby.


18 posted on 06/15/2008 5:04:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I know what you mean! I would have done worse....but then again...I might have been in the hospital too!


19 posted on 06/15/2008 5:05:01 PM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: Morgana

He was “on” evil.

God help us.


20 posted on 06/15/2008 5:06:37 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: driftdiver
Good grief, didn't any of the passers by have a tire iron or a jack handle in their trunk?? Guy was likely either severely mentally ill or on meth.
21 posted on 06/15/2008 5:08:45 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
A baseball bat to the head would have stopped him.

Or, if none was available, a car jack or tire iron would do just fine as well.

22 posted on 06/15/2008 5:08:57 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: basil

This was reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, but this outrage didn’t happen there.

Turlock is an agricultural community in the “Central Valley,” generally a more conservative area of California.
I believe the “Central Valley” is the San Joaquin Valley and the Sacramento Valley combined.

Still, the over-reaching gun laws passed in California’s capital, Sacramento, affect the entire state in a negative way.


23 posted on 06/15/2008 5:09:26 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If the Republican party wants to survive, it must return to its conservative values)
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To: driftdiver
The 27-year-old suspect died immediately where he fell.

It's a shame he wasn't gut shot serious enough to bleed out before medical help could come. And in a whole bunch of pain. May there be a special place in Hell for that mutt.

24 posted on 06/15/2008 5:09:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (I tried to explain that I meant it as a compliment, but that only appears to have made things worse.)
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To: NittanyLion

See 17


25 posted on 06/15/2008 5:10:49 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: driftdiver

DU`ers are condemning the police officer and are suggesting the guy who killed the baby is an Iraq veteran.


26 posted on 06/15/2008 5:11:28 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: driftdiver

The suspect had tunnel vision?

I’d say he had pure evil vision.

May God rest the bambinos soul.

Can someone explain to their best knowledge the biblical meaning of God is going to lift the Holy Spirit from this world?

My question is: Will the Holy Spirit leave over time or all at once?

This man who felt so much hate to kill a child will have some splainin’ to do when shown the door to eternal hell he better hope Gods forgiving love is on his side now.


27 posted on 06/15/2008 5:17:15 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Not a happy ending at all. Small comfort.


28 posted on 06/15/2008 5:17:32 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: chessplayer
DU`ers are condemning the police officer and are suggesting the guy who killed the baby is an Iraq veteran.

Well that is a very predictable response.

29 posted on 06/15/2008 5:19:51 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: chessplayer
DU`ers are condemning the police officer and are suggesting the guy who killed the baby is an Iraq veteran.

If true, sounds like he may have been on the wrong side.

30 posted on 06/15/2008 5:19:58 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: driftdiver
I hope this vermin's eternal torment in hell is to be viciously beaten to death by someone ten times his size, only to come back to life to get beaten to death all over again.
31 posted on 06/15/2008 5:21:16 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Looking at the timeline it probably went pretty fast. I commend the folks for trying to stop him.

Evil like this is out there and the police can’t protect us. Guns should not be illegal in CA.


32 posted on 06/15/2008 5:23:28 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: basil
Being the San Francisco area

You obviously don't know where Turlock is. It's in the San Joaquin Valley, south of Modesto.

33 posted on 06/15/2008 5:25:18 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: driftdiver
Some men just need killing.

May God have the child close to His bosom.

34 posted on 06/15/2008 5:25:28 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: chessplayer
DU`ers are condemning the police officer

The FR cop-haters don't seem to have found this thread yet. Perhaps they are all over at DU at the moment.

36 posted on 06/15/2008 5:33:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; dragnet2
Obviously, I don't know California very well, although I just returned from spending a week out there with my daughter and her family. I saw the name of the paper, and just assumed it was San Fransisco.....sure happy that I don't have to live out there, though LOL!

I'll be thinking about this poor baby and wondering who he belonged to for a long time. God rest his little soul.

37 posted on 06/15/2008 5:34:42 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: Morgana

No, probably the baby was crying and disturbing his macho almighty peace and he was having to babysit while the baby mama worked. and he couldn’t go out drinking and drugging with his boys and so he just lost his cool.


38 posted on 06/15/2008 5:38:08 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: basil

13 months ago, he wasn’t a baby and It wouldn’t have been a crime.


39 posted on 06/15/2008 5:38:51 PM PDT by Selmore (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.)
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To: Global2010

There isn’t any place I know of in scripture that says specifically that the Holy Spirit will be lifted out of this world. There is scripture to the effect that he who now lets will let until he is taken out of the way. A lot of people think the “he” that is mentioned in this scripture is the Holy Spirit and that the rapture (also not specifically named in scripture) will be the result of believers in Christ being removed from the world at some future date and, thus, the Holy Spirit in those believers will go with them. (I’m not saying that’s right, just that it is the belief of some.)


40 posted on 06/15/2008 5:41:43 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Time to say a Rosary.

May the Lord be with you my FRiend.

Stories like this grieve me, our only hope is in the Lord.
41 posted on 06/15/2008 5:41:50 PM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: basil
Obviously, I don't know California very well, although I just returned from spending a week out there with my daughter and her family. I saw the name of the paper, and just assumed it was San Fransisco.....sure happy that I don't have to live out there, though LOL!

Bad things can and do happen anywhere nowadays. We see that daily.

Of course this this particular crime occurred in California, on a dusty, rural road, lined by crops. But hey, it's a great opportunity for some to attack the entire state, and point fingers at everyone except the dead child killer.

42 posted on 06/15/2008 5:42:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: basil

Unfortunately the Central Valley is home to a lot of meth labs and is on the main drug smuggling line from Mexico to points north and east. I personally suspect meth because the labs are frequently in those out-of-the-way places like this nightmare happened. (OTOH, a few years ago my upper middle-class exurban neighbor in our town just forty miles north of Turlock was arrested for running a meth lab out of her garage.)


43 posted on 06/15/2008 5:43:58 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: PAR35

“The FR cop-haters don’t seem to have found this thread yet. Perhaps they are all over at DU at the moment. “

Perhaps you joined FR from DU? Cops carry guns for instances just like this. Comparing this instance to one where the cops enter the wrong house and kill someone (for example) is pathetic.


44 posted on 06/15/2008 5:44:14 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Lonesome in Massachussets

I’m figuring that what he’d done until his untimely death (not soon enough) already killed the baby, so the end was him dying.

Sad for the baby though, agree with others that a CCW among the bystanders would have saved the day.


45 posted on 06/15/2008 5:49:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Selmore

“13 months ago, he wasn’t a baby and It wouldn’t have been a crime.”

It would still have been a crime, just not against the law.


46 posted on 06/15/2008 5:50:57 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Twinkie
Try the Old Testament. After the Flood, G-d made covenant with His people never to destroy humanity. He gave us the ability to choose and the responsibility that choice entails. We will be the ones who fail, not G-d.
47 posted on 06/15/2008 5:57:44 PM PDT by airforceF4
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To: OpusatFR

yes...and shedding tears right now at the horrible story.


48 posted on 06/15/2008 6:07:17 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: B-Chan

That’s about it isn’t it? Sad and we can do nothing.


49 posted on 06/15/2008 6:07:45 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: JimSEA

How about a brick?
How about breaking a window and using the glass shards to stop him?
How about a shoe, a rock, stones, hair spray, bug spray. Anything to get him off that baby.

I hate him. I hate people like him. I hope he burns in hell. I hope he burns and burns and burns and burns and burns. If only we could bring the baby back and begin over with the baby being raised with people who love him and would protect him. We can’t and so the only consolation is the baby is in the arms of the Lord and will forever be happy. However, who was there to take away the pain and suffering this little child endured? It breaks your heart.

I’m glad he was shot. However that was too quick for him. I know I should not say that but I say it and I mean it. Nothing I say could EVER compare to the evil that that devil had inside him.


50 posted on 06/15/2008 6:14:20 PM PDT by cubreporter
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