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Barack Obama Asks Fathers To Take Responsibility
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-16-2008 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 06/15/2008 6:49:26 PM PDT by blam

Barack Obama asks fathers to take responsibility

By Alex Spillius in Washington
Last Updated: 12:51AM BST 16/06/2008

Senator Barack Obama has called on black American men to accept their responsibilities as fathers and to stop "acting like boys instead of men".

Barack Obama speaking at the Apostolic Church of God

In a Father's Day speech at a black church in his home city of Chicago, the Democratic presidential nominee listed the disadvantages faced by single parent families in the community, and urged men to realise that their responsibility as a father does not end at conception.

"If we are honest with ourselves, we'll admit that too many fathers are missing. You and I know how true this is in the African-American community," said the father of two.

"We know the statistics – that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison.

"The foundations of our community are weaker because of it.

"We need them to realise that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child – it's the courage to raise one."

Women who were working, looking after children and cleaning the house were performing "heroics", he said, but needed the support of another parent.

It was the first time Mr Obama has appeared at a Chicago church since he left the congregation of the Trinity Church of Christ, whose former pastor, the Rev Jeremiah Wright, mired himin controversy with his race-tinged criticism of America.

Although campaign aides said he has not yet decided on a permanent new church, his decision to speak at the Apostolic Church of God indicated that he will play it safe in future.

Bishop Arthur Brazier, the recently retired Bishop at the Pentecostal church, has said that he views politics in the pulpit as inappropriate, and is widely admired as a civil rights contemporary of Martin Luther King.

With a congregation of 20,000, the church has a powerful base in Chicago's South Side, and has bought up large portions of land where it has built affordable housing.

Though Mr Obama's message was delivered to the African American community, his belief in the family will not do him any harm in his efforts to court the religious Right and wavering Republicans for November's election.

His speech also contained strong elements of the confessional so popular in US politics.

The senator recalled how his own father, a student from Kenya, had left his mother when he was two.

He saw his mother, and grandparents, struggle with bills and to fill the void. Mr Obama, whose girls are aged six and nine, said: "I resolved many years ago that it was my obligation to break the cycle – that if I could be anything in life, I would be a good father to my girls; that if I could give them anything, I would give them that rock – that foundation – on which to build their lives."


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KEYWORDS: barackobama; blackchurch; blackfamily; blueturban; fathers; fathersday; politicking; politics; responsibility; whosmydaddy
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1 posted on 06/15/2008 6:49:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
No matter what one thinks of Bill Cosby, he sure
did start the black people thinking about family values.

Good for Bill on that one

2 posted on 06/15/2008 6:53:01 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reed = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: blam

Barry's fan club.

3 posted on 06/15/2008 6:55:01 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

And Bill Cosby paid the price for saying the obvious by the black community for acting “uppity”. Obama will be praised for it.


4 posted on 06/15/2008 6:55:47 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: submarinerswife

Too little, decades too late. Sorry Hussein, but the damage is done. Both to black families and to my wallet.


5 posted on 06/15/2008 6:57:43 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: blam
Interesting that Obama is calling for fathers to take responsibility as he wants to turn this country into a nanny state. Call for fathers to take responsibility as you enable them not to! Liberals are messed up and way to arrogant for our own good.
6 posted on 06/15/2008 6:58:44 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: blam

cant this jackass simply say “ HAPPY FATHER’S DAY” like the rest of America?


7 posted on 06/15/2008 6:58:44 PM PDT by max americana
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To: blam

This is the first thing I’ve heard Obama say that I agree with. However, it strikes me as incredibly sad, and also points to our dysfunctional society that only a black man could get away with saying this.


8 posted on 06/15/2008 6:59:12 PM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

Gosh...when white guys say things like this, they get crucified.


9 posted on 06/15/2008 6:59:46 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: blam

Obama due to appear in MI...Look for the appearance to be for appearances sake. Watch the local news’s sappiness towards him. It should tell you something.


10 posted on 06/15/2008 7:00:08 PM PDT by equaviator (A)
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To: blam
But ... why should a young man be punished with a baby, should the mother decide she wants to be punished with it?

ducking for cover

11 posted on 06/15/2008 7:01:34 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: blam
I bet he was winking and nodding like mad. All a big show for whitey.

12 posted on 06/15/2008 7:01:48 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: blam
"...the courage to raise one."

How do you raise one that has been aborted Barry?

Your speech is fine, but it does not line up with the positions or the stances you take on critical issues that undergirt what you are talking about.

You cannot say out of one side of your mnouth that young men should take responsibility and raise the kids that are born (which they should), and then out of the other side tells the girls that they are free to kill them before they ever are born.

Your moral authority to espouse one is absolutely destroyed by your support for the other. But I am not holding my breath for the MSM to point this obvious flaw out.

It's sort of the moat and the beam thing Barry, your know, like our Savior taught us.

Sorry, Barry, despite the fact that this message is a good one for all young men (not just black ones), your overall dog just don't hunt.


THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

13 posted on 06/15/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: I see my hands
"I bet he was winking and nodding like mad. All a big show for whitey."

Winkin blinkin and nod.

14 posted on 06/15/2008 7:04:01 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blam

Bill Cosby said it better. Maybe he should be running for President.


15 posted on 06/15/2008 7:04:29 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: brownsfan; hiredhand; Squantos; Travis McGee; joanie-f; betty boop

See my post number 13.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 7:05:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Melinda

But Nobama 08 knows what he is talking about. His black father abandoned him at a very young age. I wonder why he didn’t mention that?


17 posted on 06/15/2008 7:07:30 PM PDT by csmusaret (John McCain is the evil of two lessers)
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To: Jeff Head

Good point. Tell the “boys” to be good fathers, but tell the “girls” to murder the unborn. It just goes to further prove what we’ve said for a long time; that liberalism is a mental disorder.


18 posted on 06/15/2008 7:08:34 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand
It's a morally bankrupt and corrupt position that is being used to try and foster votes...nothing more.

He has already told America that he doesn't want his own daughters punished wth a baby.

19 posted on 06/15/2008 7:11:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: RKV

I live in a non black populated rural area and I can safely say the white kids have fathers MIA too.

Some have multiple fathers missing from one family.

Words from Obama and all those before him cannot change men who breed like animals and in some cases kill there young and the women who allow the cycle to continue.

That change has to come from the soul of such selfish people.

Something just never change.

And


20 posted on 06/15/2008 7:15:34 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter
No ducking required. A fair point. What about the father when the “mother” decides all on her own to have their baby aborted? Why doesn't he have a say? I'm sure much of the time he doesn't even know that she is carrying his child before she chooses to kill it.
21 posted on 06/15/2008 7:15:34 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: max americana

LOL

Perfectly put IMO.


22 posted on 06/15/2008 7:17:05 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: blam
Women who were working, looking after children and cleaning the house were performing "heroics", he said, but needed the support of another parent.

Rubbish. Marriage is broken. It was broken by the corrupt politicians and the lawyers.

23 posted on 06/15/2008 7:22:31 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: socialismisinsidious

I used to work as a flight test engineer. We had test pilots on out team too. The difference: being involved, and being comitted. Kind of like breakfast. The chicken is involved in producing the egg. The pig is comitted to making the bacon.

It is good for a father to be involved. The mother is comitted.

Augustus Caesar had a sister who he gave in marriage to a political ally. She was famous for sexual affairs, but all of her children strongly resembled her husband. When asked about those two facts, she responded “My husband is commander of the Roman Navy. Of course I know that the cargo is stowed before you take on passengers.”


24 posted on 06/15/2008 7:26:27 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: csmusaret

He did in the next to the last paragraph, you just didn’t read the article.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 7:27:07 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: ThreePuttinDude

AFTER 20 YEARS OF SILENCE BARACK OBAMA COMES OUT AND SAYS BLACK MEN HAVE TO START ACTING LIKE REAL MEN WHEN IT COMES TO FATHERHOOD.

My Goodness; Barack must be running for office or something.


26 posted on 06/15/2008 7:27:11 PM PDT by HD1200
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To: Global2010

Its never good, but the statistics show that its the black population who is leading this trend - by large numbers.


27 posted on 06/15/2008 7:29:00 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

What about white, hispanic, asian or fathers of any other race? yet more proof that B Hussein Obama is a racist.


28 posted on 06/15/2008 7:32:59 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: blam

I said it before - Obama will be running more and more to the “center” He has blacks, libs, enviro-nazis all locked up. Now he is trying to seem like a “moderate” until November.


29 posted on 06/15/2008 7:35:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: donmeaker
Yup, aware of the argument and an extension of it is why we have abortion today. Technically, she is committed only until the birth.

Caesar's sister sounds as interesting as he.
30 posted on 06/15/2008 7:46:31 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Global2010

anyone can make up a story like that , however undocumented.


31 posted on 06/15/2008 7:51:59 PM PDT by equaviator (A)
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To: blam
In a Father's Day speech at a black church...

And I thought politicians weren't supposed to give speeches in churches...silly moi.
32 posted on 06/15/2008 7:54:33 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Morgana

Farce not! Just another thread that needs a good boost!


34 posted on 06/15/2008 8:01:02 PM PDT by equaviator ("There's an alleged plane on the alleged horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: blam

Today, Senator B. Hussein Obama, campaigning from the pulpit of a church, called on black men to “punish women with babies.”


37 posted on 06/15/2008 8:05:53 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: donmeaker

Good points.

(so does she mean she made sure she was pregnant before fufilling her desires of lotsa passion?)


38 posted on 06/15/2008 8:07:40 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: Jeff Head; hiredhand; SLB

I have nothing much I can say about BHO that can be posted on a family forum...........yet.

Our nation is in extreme danger if that POS gets elected. His documented connections too real honest too god terrorists and their organizations whose entire lives have been used too destroy this nation by any means possible is something that can NOT be allowed.

GOP has really handed republicans and conservatives a turd this election that IMO can’t and won’t beat this terrorist.

Just my opinion of course.......


39 posted on 06/15/2008 8:07:55 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: brownsfan
This is the first thing I’ve heard Obama say that I agree with. However, it strikes me as incredibly sad, and also points to our dysfunctional society that only a black man could get away with saying this.

And only 'some' black guys can get away with it. Ask Bill Cosby and John McWhorter.

40 posted on 06/15/2008 8:15:25 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (9 out of 10 baby seals support drilling ANWR!)
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To: Morgana

This? or He? is another farce.

I really have a sick feeling about the next 8 years.

Obama claims he will serve two terms.

I dont dislike Obama as a Man but as the possible next leader of our Country I detest him.


41 posted on 06/15/2008 8:20:20 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: Squantos

Turd has been tossed around alot this election to describe our choices.

So if OBA does get elected does POTUS change to POS?
: )


42 posted on 06/15/2008 8:27:55 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: brownsfan
This is the first thing I’ve heard Obama say that I agree with.


43 posted on 06/15/2008 11:14:51 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: blam
"he called on black American men"

But said it to pander their knocked up shorties.

44 posted on 06/15/2008 11:19:01 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: blam

This might tick some people off, but in Muslim countries the father has the last word when it comes to children. If madame is unhappy in her marriage, no problem, she can leave, but the children stay with the father. The responsibility for the children weighs heavily on the average Muslim dad (not the bodybombing, religious bearded nutjobs) and they take it seriously. They think that children are too important to be left to women. Haha. In the west men have NO say in the rearing of children any longer, it’s been left to the flight of fancy of women.
Obama says to men, “Just send money and shut up”!
I say give them the power to do something constructive.


45 posted on 06/16/2008 12:38:09 AM PDT by paristwelve
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To: Squantos; Jeff Head; FreedomPoster; the irate magistrate

Just wait, we ain’t seen nothing yet. If BHO makes it to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave I fear The World As We Know It has come to an abrupt end.


46 posted on 06/16/2008 2:28:45 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Global2010

Correct in one!


47 posted on 06/17/2008 7:41:21 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Partial Birth Abortion was developed in conjunction with a ruling about when a child was born. A child was deemed to be born after its head exited the birth canal. Killing the child before that was abortion, and could be a thereputic event (if the delivery was breach, and the birth canal was too small/head too large, the woman’s life could be saved, with the option to have another child.) Killing the child after that was infanticide, and treated as murder.


48 posted on 06/17/2008 7:45:57 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: donmeaker

I know of the loony linguistics of partial birth. Your point?


49 posted on 06/18/2008 6:55:11 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Partial birth abortion, an ethical problem, occurs in response to the definition of the difference between abortion and infanticide. This definition was developed in response to a legal ambiguity.

I had some vague observation that the problems of each generation are due to the solutions provided by the previous generation. Hardly ever are previous solutions revisited.

Not the best example. Sorry if it detracted from your day.


50 posted on 06/20/2008 8:09:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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