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Patrick J. Buchanan—Pseudo-Historian, Very Real Dissimulator
Pajamasmedia.com ^ | June 13th, 2008 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/16/2008 6:03:17 AM PDT by PurpleMan

"In dealing with Mr. Buchanan, one must accept at the beginning two caveats. First, as is his style, he will always resort to ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument."

"[I} was appalled by his absence of logic..."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Russia; United Kingdom
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"ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument and absence of logic."

Am I the only one who sees this here on so many post and responses? You don't believe me? Read thru the comments on Russert's death and the coverage (especially, "Wall to Wall Russert on Morning Shows" and Tim Russert's Testimony Sent Scooter Libby To Jail) to see what kind of ad hominens and illogicals there are.

Appalling.

Oh, if only Hanson would respond to some of the poster's on FR and there were more who respond as does he.

1 posted on 06/16/2008 6:03:18 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

This is a wonderful response by the Great VDH. I am so impressed.


2 posted on 06/16/2008 6:11:32 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: PurpleMan
I guess I would rather see the ad honmine attacks then read the hypocritical, hysteric hype about a guy who's whole career will be nothing but a minor footnote in history

Russert death is a prime example of everything wrong with American Political media. The American political media tends to defies and exaggerates the importance of minor insignificant bit players and results in a “journalistic” community that confuses its own ego for the story.

Russert’s death is no more significant or important then the 10s of thousands of other people who died that day.

3 posted on 06/16/2008 6:13:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: PurpleMan

Buchanan vs. Hanson is not even a fair fight. Buchanan should stick to debating mental midgets like Bill Press. That’s more his speed.


4 posted on 06/16/2008 6:15:36 AM PDT by Dukes Travels
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To: MNJohnnie
Russert death is a prime example of everything wrong with American Political media. The American political media tends to defies and exaggerates the importance of minor insignificant bit players and results in a “journalistic” community that confuses its own ego for the story.

Yes, the "journalists" have made themselves the story.

A man who can ask questions is not a hero - he's just a man.

5 posted on 06/16/2008 6:15:49 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Dukes Travels
Buchanan is not and was never a conservative. What Pi**es me off is many in the MSM consider his opinions conservative.
6 posted on 06/16/2008 6:18:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: PurpleMan
VDH to PJB:


7 posted on 06/16/2008 6:19:38 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

Victor Davis Hanson pwns Patrick J. Buchanan. Long read, but interesting in that it details some ways Brigadiers tend to argue.


8 posted on 06/16/2008 6:25:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MNJohnnie

Russert death is a prime example of everything wrong with American Political media. The American political media tends to defies and exaggerates the importance of minor insignificant bit players and results in a “journalistic” community that confuses its own ego for the story.

Russert’s death is no more significant or important then the 10s of thousands of other people who died that day.””

I was thinking the same thing about the obituaries I read in the local small town paper this weekend — these were about people no less significant than a shyster lawyer passing as an “unbiased” political hack.


9 posted on 06/16/2008 6:27:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: MNJohnnie
It also belies this preposterous myth that the actors on Big Media are competitors. Schieffer said an, unintentionally, funny thing. He said how much he loved to scoop Russert because he was the best then told us that he shared a box with him at the Senator's stadium. They are not competitors, they are collaborators. They all spout exactly the same nonsense at the same times.
10 posted on 06/16/2008 6:34:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: raybbr

And a man who spent 3/4 of his career in partisan politics is not a disinterested observer.


11 posted on 06/16/2008 6:36:40 AM PDT by DManA
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.......They all spout exactly the same nonsense at the same times.....

The Free Republic Pajamajadin could do the world a great service by finding the source of that daily samensss. In my mind there is a rock somewhere, under which there lives a troll with a Blackberry.


12 posted on 06/16/2008 6:38:00 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

They could start by looking at the box seats at the Senator’s stadium.


13 posted on 06/16/2008 6:50:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: PurpleMan
I noticed you have a habit of attacking your fellow FReepers en mass. The last one I recall was your bemoaning “15 posts and no prayers” when a plane crashed in Sudan. Since your habit is to be critical of others, I'd like to know what's up with that?
14 posted on 06/16/2008 6:54:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The Lord.)
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To: raybbr

agree.

democrat tv viewers i know are crying over russert,

part of the media that jerks your leash.


15 posted on 06/16/2008 6:54:34 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: PurpleMan

It is fascinating to see Buchanan bring his butt to a brain fight...and get it handed to him!


16 posted on 06/16/2008 6:56:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: PurpleMan

I used to enjoy reading Mr. B, until he turned into an apologist for the Nazi’s as a way to combat the left.

What he still fails to understand is that the left (communists) and the Nazi’s are essentially the same thing. Two methods of taking power away from individuals and ruling the masses. They say they are diametrically opposed to each other but they are like two trains on the same circular track, one following the other, trying to reach the same station.


17 posted on 06/16/2008 6:59:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (The United States Marines. The finest and most feared fighting force in the history of mankind.)
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To: PurpleMan
From the article:
In attacking my book “Churchill, Hitler and ‘The Unnecessary War’: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World,” Victor Davis Hanson, the court historian of the neoconservatives...

He (PJB) does indeed use ad hominem attacks such as this day in and day out as though he is really saying something. His people eat this up, too.


18 posted on 06/16/2008 7:05:46 AM PDT by rdb3 (Upward, onward, beyond...)
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To: PurpleMan

watching buchanan speak always made me feel the need

for a shower.


19 posted on 06/16/2008 7:07:33 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: PurpleMan
Hate to rain on the parade, and NO, I'm not defending Buchanan. BUT, when VDH says Britain went to war with Germany because Germany had systematically violated Versailles, etc, he's wrong.

The British went to war over Poland. They had guaranteed Poland's independence against any [read German] aggression. If one reads the history, you will note Britain gave Germany something like 12 hours to cease military operations and withdraw from Poland, after which time, if Germany did not, a state of war would exist between the two countries. Poland was the casus belli.

20 posted on 06/16/2008 7:15:45 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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