Skip to comments.Patrick J. Buchanan—Pseudo-Historian, Very Real Dissimulator
Posted on 06/16/2008 6:03:17 AM PDT by PurpleMan
"In dealing with Mr. Buchanan, one must accept at the beginning two caveats. First, as is his style, he will always resort to ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument."
"[I} was appalled by his absence of logic..."
(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...
You wanna repost and do it like every other FReeper around here and start and the beginning of the article instead of playing editor.
The box says “This is an excerpt.”
He’s more in line with the left on economic issues, as well as foreign policy.
And he appeals to bigots from both political extremes.
That would be because the invasion was the triggering event. And if you had been alive and paying attention in 1939, no one would have had to explain this to you because it would have been taken for granted as common knowledge.
Again... I the reason for the treaty with Poland was to end the German violations of the treaty of Versailles (a fact that was understood by people at that time). It was thought that such a declaration would bring the Germans up short and stop further aggression and violations of the treaty. It did not, because it was too little, too late.
And while I am sure you are very competent on WWII as relates to battles and such, you seem to know nothing of the inter-war politics that led up to the war other than the basic superficial stuff they teach in school. The invasion of Poland was the only public reason uttered, because it was the last and final event in a long train of events.
So, yes, you did miss the point.
Done over and over in an ever increasing crescendo leads to Napoleon losing a whole army in Russia and, then, Hitler doing the same. As for Pat, he is playing “what if” games to his liking that make Pat look super smart. Hopefully, no one will do so. If not, Buchanan will go on to rewrite all of human history to his liking.
By the way, if Adam didn't delve and Eve Twain, then there would be no history.
Look, there's a Joooooo standing behind you right now! BOO!
I agree with this assessment. But the problem is that there are so few talking heads on television that get the illegal invasion of this country. Buchanan must be given his due, he got the illegal invasion from the get-go. Fox is trotting out talking heads claiming to be conservatives who are clueless about the illegal invasion, and who are probably by orders of Rupert downplaying the illegal invasion. I understand what Buchanan does not get, but I also appreciate what he does get, what he does get is more than most claiming to be conservatives on the putrid medium known as cable news.
"The German Government have received the British Government's ultimatum of the 3rd September, 1939. They have the honour to reply as follows: -
"1. The German Government and the German people refuse to receive, accept, let alone to fulfill, demands in the nature of ultimata made by the British Government.
"2. On our eastern frontier there has for many months already reigned a condition of war. Since the time when the Versailles Treaty first tore Germany to pieces, all and every peaceful settlement was refused to all German Governments. The National Socialist Government also has since the year 1933 tried again and again to remove by peaceful negotiations the worst rapes and breaches of justice of this treaty. The British Government have been among those who, by their intransigent attitude, took the chief part in frustrating every practical revision. Without the intervention of the British Government - of this the German Government and German people are fully conscious - a reasonable solution doing justice to both sides would certainly have been found between Germany and Poland. For Germany did not have the intention nor had she raised the demands of annihilating Poland. The Reich demanded only the revision of those articles of the Versailles Treaty which already at the time of the formulation of that Dictate had been described by understanding statesmen of all nations as being in the long run unbearable, and therefore impossible for a great nation and also for the entire political and economic interests of Eastern Europe. British statesmen, too, declared the solution in the East which was then forced upon Germany as containing the germ of future wars. To remove this danger was the desire of all German Governments and especially the intention of the new National Socialist People's Government. The blame for having prevented this peaceful revision lies with the British Cabinet policy."
Thought you might be interested in reading this. No doubt this is one of the documents referred to by Buchannan in his book. What you should note, however, is the references to the treaty of Versailles. Even the Germans understood the reason for the British-French-Polish treaty.
Are you talking about Russert? I don't know his history. Was he in politics?
Very nice. Very clinical. As good as Krauthammer’s BDS
Perhaps you want to address your reply to trane250. That is the poster who asked the question you have answered.
Tim Russert worked for Mario Cuomo, but that’s the extent of my knowledge of the matter.
Russert graduated with honors from Cleveland-Marshall College of Law  and then worked on New York Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan's successful senatorial campaign in 1976. He served as Moynihan's chief of staff to from 1977 to 1982. He then worked on New York Democrat Mario Cuomo's successful gubernatorial campaign in 1982, and was counselor in the governor's office in Albany from 1983 to 1984. He left politics and joined the NBC Washington Bureau in 1984. In 1985 he arranged for Pope John Paul II's first interview on American television. He became Washington Bureau Chief in 1988 and was later promoted to the position of senior vice president of NBC News.
It appears he has enough liberal credentials for the "fourth estate" to embrace him.
Patrick Buchanan has definitively joined the ranks of “pocket stuffers”, writing sensationalist books with no basis in reality.
From Sheldon Adelson, I presume.
Let me know if you want in or out.
Links: FR Index of his articles: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson
His website: http://victorhanson.com/
NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp
We’re a society that values entertainment over thought. As individuals, we can still choose to do what’s right—that’s truly today’s countercultural choice.
Behold, a self-fulfilling prophecy - a post to bemoan the ad hominem, filled with... you guessed it! Who would’ve guessed that the “diversity” of opinion on a PJB thread @ FR would correlate with the frequency of choosing which weapon to attack?
You will need to tread carefully, or you will get “Charles Johnson’ed.”
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