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Liberal TNR Editor: 'Bush Never Lied to Us About Iraq'
newsbusters.org & latimes.com ^ | June 16, 2008 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 06/16/2008 12:56:53 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

James Kirchick, assistant editor of The New Republic, has come under NewsBusters scrutiny for his bias before, of course. Our job is, we all know, to document and analyze that bias. But while we naturally focus on when the media get it wrong, we should have the maturity to point out when those who we criticize get it right. Here is a case when a member of the media that we usually criticize did, indeed, get it right and this time it might get him in Dutch with his lefty pals in the nutroots. After all, the surest way to get the nutroots upset at you is to say Bush did not lie about the war. But that is exactly what Kirchick just did and he did an admirable job chronicling it, too.

In an editorial in the L.A. Times on the 16th, Kirchick said that "Bush never lied to us about Iraq" and then went on to substantiate his claim in a style that runs contrary to the Media and nutroots meme that "Bush lied and people died."

Kirchick started his piece with a recounting of the flip flop that Mitt Romney's father, George, undertook when he reversed his support of the Vietnam war as he geared up to run for president in 1968. Romney initially supported the Vietnam War but later claimed that the administration and war supporters "brainwashed" him into believing in the war. With his flip flop he claimed that he had seen the light, but critics said that he was merely playing to a perceived anti-war changing tide and trying to capture that vote -- in other words, Romney's flip flop was only calculated to get votes. This, Kirchick says, is the same thing that politicians like John F. Kerry have done with the Iraq...

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bush; bushlied; iraq; kirchick; prewarintelligence; tnr; yeshedid

1 posted on 06/16/2008 12:56:53 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the KOSsacks and DUmmies could read, heads would explode.


2 posted on 06/16/2008 1:01:06 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My local McDonald’s in hiring.


3 posted on 06/16/2008 1:01:53 PM PDT by Eddie01 (one more for the road is actually a really bad idea)
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To: Izzy Dunne
If the KOSsacks and DUmmies could read, heads would explode.

Eh. It just sounds like a balloon popping anyway.

4 posted on 06/16/2008 1:03:26 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bump


5 posted on 06/16/2008 1:03:26 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Sheep will never se this, unless it’s a 30-second commercial break for “Dancing with the American Idols who Want to be Millionaires on the next Oprah”.


6 posted on 06/16/2008 1:10:49 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I wonder if we could actually teach them to read?


7 posted on 06/16/2008 1:10:50 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"If the KOSsacks and DUmmies could read, heads would explode."

Do we have any FR sleeper cells over there? Someone needs to post the LA Times article in full.

LA TIMES: James Kirchick June 16, 2008 - Bush never lied to us about Iraq

8 posted on 06/16/2008 1:14:34 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He must have sobered up. Take it one day at a time buddy, life is beautiful.
9 posted on 06/16/2008 1:22:44 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Democrats have tied themselves into knots over Iraq. First they let their fear of being perceived as weak force them into authorizing force. Then they let their fear of being held responsible force them into opposing the war. In order to explain this flip/flop, they were forced into an argument that they were deceived.

At no point in this process was the Democrat’s position dictated by the national interest or the facts on the ground. They have been playing the political expedient shots at each and every stage.

Now, the job for the Republicans is to make the case that Iraq is going to be a victory. This will force the Democrats to tack back, yet again, in order to claim credit for the success. This will be the bridge too far, and will destroy what little credibility the Democrats have left.


10 posted on 06/16/2008 1:32:35 PM PDT by gridlock ( If Obama becomes "suddenly" radioactive, the Supers are going find new respect the Popular Vote.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Democrats have tied themselves into knots over Iraq. First they let their fear of being perceived as weak force them into authorizing force. Then they let their fear of being held responsible force them into opposing the war. In order to explain this flip/flop, they were forced into an argument that they were deceived.

At no point in this process was the Democrat’s position dictated by the national interest or the facts on the ground. They have been playing the political expedient shots at each and every stage.

Now, the job for the Republicans is to make the case that Iraq is going to be a victory. This will force the Democrats to tack back, yet again, in order to claim credit for the success. This will be the bridge too far, and will destroy what little credibility the Democrats have left.


11 posted on 06/16/2008 1:32:42 PM PDT by gridlock ( If Obama becomes "suddenly" radioactive, the Supers are going find new respect the Popular Vote.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The *claim* that Bush lied is itself the Big Lie.


12 posted on 06/16/2008 1:33:02 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Izzy Dunne

they’ll actually be smug about it. The nutroots has despised TNR as a Republican shill (!) for quite a while now. They think it’s a triangulated sell-out.


13 posted on 06/16/2008 1:36:35 PM PDT by TINS
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Nice, but still false. The bulk of the intelligence was absolutely correct (no intelligence is 100% correct, ever). Saddam Hussein was a terrorist, he was an ally and supporter of al Qaeda (among other terrorist organzations) and he had an ambitious weapons program. Not to mention he was one of the most prolific mass-murderers on the face of the planet and in violation of the terms of the cease fire that he agreed to.

Bush didn’t lie. Neither did the intelligence. We had every reason in the world to invade Iraq.


14 posted on 06/16/2008 1:38:26 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Free ThinkerNY

James Kirchick, I hope your resume is updated, and I hope your NEXT job is even more fulfilling.


15 posted on 06/16/2008 1:41:22 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (The Other Conservative AFTRA member ... LOL)
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To: TINS

IIRC, Martin Peretz, TNR’s former editor, endorsed Bush in ‘04.


16 posted on 06/16/2008 1:49:15 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Teachers in a fairly conservative county not far from mine are teaching 5th graders (are you smarter?) that Saddam was in on the Sept 11 WTC bombings.

The lies/truths have come full circle.

17 posted on 06/16/2008 1:57:52 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We all knew that President Bush did not lie. Democrats and their kiss-up liberal media friends perpetuated this myth. Unfortunately, there haven’t been enough strong conservatives in the Republican party to refute those comments so the libs have been able to get away with it.

Truth hurts libs. Truth wins elections. Make sure we hear the truth in this election campaign.


18 posted on 06/16/2008 2:02:01 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Rush the Vote. Operation Chaos rules. "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: gridlock
At no point in this process was the Democrat’s position dictated by the national interest or the facts on the ground.

It still isn't. Gore with BHO talks about the "challenge" of bringing the troops home. What kind of Iraq would we leave behind, isn't mentioned.
19 posted on 06/16/2008 2:06:25 PM PDT by kenavi ("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I did look West this morning to see if the sun would appear rising over that horizon.


20 posted on 06/16/2008 2:11:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (I tried to explain that I meant it as a compliment, but that only appears to have made things worse.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Saddam Hussein was a terrorist, he was an ally and supporter of al Qaeda (among other terrorist organzations)

How did Saddam support Al Qaeda?

21 posted on 06/16/2008 2:24:43 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Flying pigs at 9 O’clock high...


22 posted on 06/16/2008 2:43:37 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: secretagent

Start with Abdul Rahman Yasin and work your way forward.

Then again, you’ve had years upon years to connect those dots and haven’t. Nothing I or anyone else could say will ever convince you or anyone else married to the “no connection” lie at this point.


23 posted on 06/16/2008 3:53:21 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: secretagent
You might find this informative:

"Case Closed" from The Weekly Standard

24 posted on 06/16/2008 5:31:03 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The democrats have been trying desperately for 5 years to justify turning their backs on the country and the president in a time of war. They need to feel good about committing treason. Only if Bush lied can they claim any innocence.


25 posted on 06/16/2008 6:03:26 PM PDT by sazerac
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To: sazerac

Very perceptive.


26 posted on 06/16/2008 11:43:24 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: sazerac

BINGO!


27 posted on 06/16/2008 11:48:01 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Start with Abdul Rahman Yasin and work your way forward.

Yasin was a member of al-Qaeda? Source?

28 posted on 06/17/2008 8:34:54 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: skr

Thanks.

Some of what Hayes relied on in that article later proved shaky, I think:

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=5785


29 posted on 06/18/2008 8:39:14 AM PDT by secretagent
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