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Cuba's revelation
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | June 16, 2008 | Editoral

Posted on 06/16/2008 7:01:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58

Slowly, the yoke of communism is being lifted in Cuba. Since taking over from brother Fidel, President Raul Castro has made it easier for people to own homes and has overhauled the collectivist agriculture bureaucracy to make farms more productive and profitable.

He also is allowing people to own cell phones, rent cars, stay in luxury hotels, and buy computers and other electronics, which is something of a cruel joke because though most Cubans get a lot of "free" stuff and government subsidies, their average monthly pay is 408 pesos — $19.50.

But Cuba's latest retreat from Stalinism is more significant and promising. A top bureaucrat in the Labor Ministry, Carlos Mateu, told the Communist Party newspaper Granma that government-run businesses, which make up 90 percent of what passes for an economy in Cuba, are abandoning egalitarian wages for merit-based pay.

The new system, which he expects will be implemented fully by August, is in keeping with Mr. Castro's new mantra: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work." It is unclear whether Cubans would earn higher wages or bonuses for better performance, but either or both would be much better than having everyone paid the same, regardless of their qualifications, abilities or performance.

The old system is "unfair because if it's harmful to give a worker less than he deserves, it's also harmful to give him what he doesn't deserve," the Granma article said. (That quote is worth reading again.) Mr. Mateu also "underscored that there has been a tendency for everyone to get the same, and that egalitarianism is not convenient" because it removes incentives to excel, undermines productivity, and breeds corruption and waste.

They come late to the free-market dance, but after 50 years of communist indoctrination and oppression, the Cubans finally figured out competition and incentives increase performance, productivity and pay. And if that awakening can happen in Cuba, perhaps it will dawn one day on America's public-sector work force.


TOPICS: Cuba; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: castro; cuba

1 posted on 06/16/2008 7:01:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ballplayer; warsaw44; Grizzled Bear; Tunehead54; G.Love; nothingnew; dcwusmc; Responsibility2nd; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on or off this list, let me know.


2 posted on 06/16/2008 7:02:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (McCain, my penultimate choice in the primary and only choice in the general)
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To: Graybeard58
He also is allowing people to own cell phones, rent cars, stay in luxury hotels, and buy computers and other electronics, which is something of a cruel joke because though most Cubans get a lot of "free" stuff and government subsidies, their average monthly pay is 408 pesos — $19.50.

Would that be a People's Computer for $19.50?

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3 posted on 06/16/2008 7:05:19 PM PDT by JCG
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To: JCG
Here is an affordable "Green" laptop for Cuba.


4 posted on 06/16/2008 7:07:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Graybeard58

Allowing average Cubans to “own” electronic luxuries is a joke when the average Cuban can hardly afford food. Even though they might be chrome plated, shackles are still shackles.


5 posted on 06/16/2008 7:08:32 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Graybeard58

Looks like they’re making good decisions.


6 posted on 06/16/2008 7:10:05 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Graybeard58

Then, of course the brave Cuban community of South Florida will get out of the US and help their own glorious nation......oh, wait!


7 posted on 06/16/2008 7:10:38 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: stravinskyrules

How can change be necessary in the paradise of free health care for all? Paging Michael Moore.


8 posted on 06/16/2008 7:31:42 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Graybeard58

The Cuban People have done nothing. They are content to continue their pitiful existence with or without DVD’s, cell phones whatever.. They’ve had 50 some odd years to throw off the communist system...but have done very, very little to do so. Sure it’s a good thing for them to be able to have the freedom to buy certain things with permission of the Communist Party government...but when you accept and participate in an economic and political system were all the common people are kept poor in the name of equality......I have no sympathy for those participates.


9 posted on 06/16/2008 7:35:51 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: Graybeard58
Because Elian received such complete Communist indoctrination at the Wye Plantation, courtesy of the USA taxpayer, watch for him to become the Communist Cuba standard bearer when he's old enough. Our Left will LOVE him and point out that they, the Dems in control then, always did know best.
10 posted on 06/16/2008 7:38:08 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Graybeard58
Wow, after 50 years of absolute oppression the Cubanos can buy a crappy toaster to use during the two hours of electricity in the ruins of their cities.


11 posted on 06/16/2008 7:42:41 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: stravinskyrules
Then, of course the brave Cuban community of South Florida will get out of the US and help their own glorious nation......oh, wait!

The Cuban community of South Florida has moved on and has been helping its new glorious nation since the year Barack Obama was still in diapers.

Bay of Pigs Veterans Commissioned in the U.S. Armed Forces 1963

12 posted on 06/16/2008 7:43:34 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Graybeard58

Very interesting.


13 posted on 06/16/2008 7:44:42 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: Coffee200am
...but when you accept and participate in an economic and political system were all the common people are kept poor in the name of equality......I have no sympathy for those participates.

Wouldn't it be the case, though, that those Cubans who are left never had anything to begin with?

Didn't everybody in Cuba that had anything to speak of get the hell out of Dodge? Or was shot?

Those Cubans that are left have only poverty as a frame of reference. Their state hasn't changed at all. But they're probably aware that all the rich people have gone away.

And, if you asked them, they'd likely be OK with that...

Sad.

14 posted on 06/16/2008 7:52:19 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Graybeard58
The old system is "unfair because if it's harmful to give a worker less than he deserves, it's also harmful to give him what he doesn't deserve," the Granma article said. (That quote is worth reading again.)

Isnt it funny to see the Cubans finally getting away from it, while Barack Hussein runs head over heels towards it..

15 posted on 06/16/2008 7:52:56 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Obama and Osama, whats the difference?)
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To: Coffee200am
The Cuban People have done nothing.

The Cuban people have done plenty but those, like my grandfather that fought the Communist system, lost, rotted away in prison for 20 years and then died, don't seem to count.

My two uncles that fought at the Bay of Pigs don't seem to count either.

After the Bay of Pigs, my family no longer physically fought for Cuba. We were too busy serving in the U.S. Armed Forces fighting for the U.S.

16 posted on 06/16/2008 7:53:55 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

The results not withstanding, Barack prefers this result of totalitarianism to what we have. Only if he plays god, he would oppose if hillary was playing god over us and him. I oppose both!


17 posted on 06/16/2008 8:05:22 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: Patrick1

How can change be necessary in the paradise of free health care for all? Paging Michael Moore.

well all in all all that enslavement was worth it .....look how healthy all the peons are...what do the people need opportunity and life liberty and the right to persue happiness for...as long as the state is happy thats what counts...face you cant make an omlette w/out breakn some eggs....look it up its in marx’s mannifesto....woo hoo


18 posted on 06/16/2008 8:14:21 PM PDT by flat
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To: okie01

if only the enslaved cubans could treat fidel to an upside down benito mussolini farewell party....i’d pay a peso to see that...


19 posted on 06/16/2008 8:18:06 PM PDT by flat
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To: Polybius
God bless your grandfather and uncles. They would have been victorious if JFK hadn't betrayed them and ordered the carriers to stand down. There was an article here some years back about how an Admiral was begging JFK "Please Mr. President. Just one plane." Fidel and Che were shaking in their boots until they realized the US wasn't going to help. Then the slaughter began.

My in-laws are from Cuba. They came here, after a brief stop in Spain where Franco took them in, and proceeded to work very hard. My wife is very succesful and her brother is a Penn and Wharton grad. The Cubans and Koreans must be the most succesful immigrants to come here since the 60's. To downplay their contribution is just ignorance on some FReepers part. Oh yeah, and the Cuban ex-pats saved the 2000 election.

Viva Cuba libre

20 posted on 06/16/2008 8:20:13 PM PDT by MattinNJ (I can't sit this election out. Hillbama must be stopped.)
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To: JCG

21 posted on 06/16/2008 8:28:25 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: Graybeard58

I really wanna know why the communist party usa has a website, arent computers a bourgeois luxury


22 posted on 06/16/2008 8:31:29 PM PDT by cytome (me to my son "god loves everyone" son to me "even communists and democrats?)
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To: Coffee200am

They are content to continue their pitiful existence with or without DVD’s, cell phones whatever.. They’ve had 50 some odd years to throw off the communist system...but have done very, very little to do so.

Nonsense. Tens of thousands of Cubans have died fighting against Castro and his henchmen. Thousands today suffer in prison for even just speaking out against the government. I suspect you have had very little contact with people who have lived under Communist tyranny. Try to find the opportunity to talk to someone who has escaped a place like Communist Cuba, North Korea, Romania, Ukraine, etc. and you'll appreciate how little people can do except try to escape.

23 posted on 06/16/2008 9:02:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: stravinskyrules

Then, of course the brave Cuban community of South Florida will get out of the US and help their own glorious nation......oh, wait!

I presume you are a Native American. Otherwise why haven't you headed out to wherever your family is from to "help your own glorious nation"?

The Cuban Americans I know who live in this country put it first in their minds. That's why they vote for conservative candidates, oppose bone-headed liberal ideas, and make tremendous contributions to the economy of our nation.

24 posted on 06/16/2008 9:08:47 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Coffee200am

“The Cuban People have done nothing.”

The ones who tried are either dead or in prison. What’s your plan for rebellion when your heaviest weapon is a machete and you have no communications except a coconut telegraph?


25 posted on 06/16/2008 9:11:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: The Great RJ
Allowing average Cubans to “own” electronic luxuries is a joke
when the average Cuban can hardly afford food.


Yes...BUT...
it's a revenue-enhancement scheme for the Cuban guvmint.

Seeing how a lot of average Cubans really survive on vouchers sent
from the USA and other places their relatives have landed after
escaping the "workers' paradise" of Cuba.

It's a brilliant scheme: hold escapees' relatives hostage.
First bleed the escapees for cash to make sure their Cuba-held relatives
don't slowly starve.

And now, bleed the escapees even more for cash in order to give
their captive relatives a few "luxuries" that are common,
every-day conveniences for even poor people in the USA.
26 posted on 06/16/2008 9:36:52 PM PDT by VOA
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To: stravinskyrules
Then, of course the brave Cuban community of South Florida will get out of the US and help their own glorious nation......oh, wait!

you don't have a clue, sir.

My dad trained some of those Cubans in a base near the Ft. Myers area and I met some Americans of Cuban families..... they HATE Castro and are waiting for the second he goes nipples up to get back there.

The payback is going to be unreal.

If you want to see some of the most patriotic, anti-Communist, 2nd Amendment-defending citizens ..... meet a Cuban FROM Cuba.

I was in Florida when the Clinton's came around and there was talk about limiting sales of AR-15's. An acquaintance who worked in the same building had me over for soda-pop, and showed me his collection of 20-30 long arms and half that many pistols, his reloading equipment and I asked him if he was a Texan.

I was joking, of course, but he told me that he would never give up his guns after what happened to his grandfather, father and uncles in Cuba. They hate the communists, cause they got to see up close and personal how they really...."help the little people".

27 posted on 06/17/2008 4:59:51 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Are those pictures from the therealcuba.com web site?
28 posted on 06/17/2008 5:40:20 AM PDT by painter (If you like $4/gal, Thank Congress!)
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To: Graybeard58
He also is allowing people to own cell phones, rent cars, stay in luxury hotels, and buy computers and other electronics...

I think the real change will come when people can start buying boats. No more 1950s vehicles converted into makeshift rafts trying to get to Florida.
29 posted on 06/17/2008 9:38:26 AM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: freeandfreezing
Try to find the opportunity to talk to someone who has escaped a place like Communist Cuba, North Korea, Romania, Ukraine, etc. and you'll appreciate how little people can do except try to escape.

I have a business in Illinois, and the business next store to me is owned by a Ukrainian family.. At first they were not at all happy that we were opening next door to them although we are not competing in the same type of business.(they have a health care store and we a restaurant).

We have since become friends and the stories they tell me of their lives under Communism are frightful and they are scared to death of Obama because they do not want a repeat of what they just left some 14 years ago.

30 posted on 06/17/2008 9:49:37 AM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee) ( Born in the South and raised in a G_D centered home)
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