Posted on 06/17/2008 6:17:58 AM PDT by Moseley
And John McCain in a move that will reassure some of us, is publically calling for an end to the federal moratorium on offshore oil and gas drilling (he apparently still thinks 200 square miles of Alaska are sacrosanct, though). Still it’s an improvement.
Most of this shale is in the Southwest. It takes alot of water to steam the rock to free the oil trapped there. Currently the Southwest is drier than a bond martini. So obviously things are not as cut and dried as they seem.
Can’t be right. Senator Nelson of Florida says there isn’t enough there to help and he can’t be wrong. /s
The Dems say we can’t drill our way out of this oil crisis. YES WE CAN. If they would get out of the way, YES WE CAN. This issue will be the main issue for defeating the Dems this year. They have been found out. They are tools of the environmental crazies who want to make the US a third world nation and have us riding around on bicycles. This Pelosi administration must end NOW!
It is way past the time that we DEMAND the names of these so-called environmentalists.
They are unelected, unaccountable, supreme beings that rule the world.
Transparency now!
I want Name, occupation and all affiliations.
I want to know HOW MANY of these so-called enviromentalists there are.
The largest one is in Colorado, I believe. Which still doesn’t solve the extraction problems. The biggest problem with the newer extraction techniques is the amount of electricity needed and the length of time it takes to get the oil heat up and perc out of the rock where it’s accessible. And of course, there are the environmental impact studies.
That is not the only method.
Seebach: Shell's ingenious approach to oil shale is pretty slick
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_4051709,00.html
RAYTHEON TECHNOLOGY MAY UNLOCK ENORMOUS OIL SHALE RESERVE
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/feature/oil_shale06/
The Unocal commercial demonstration plant project in the Colorado Piceance Creek Basin actually produced more water than it consumed, as former Paraho Corporation head Larry Lukens found from talking with Unocals engineers. Colorado oil shale contains, on average, 2-5% by weight of water. That water is liberated from the rock during the retorting process. Unocal actually had to construct evaporation ponds to get rid of all the excess water generated.http://www.newmediajournal.us/guest/j_moseley/2008/06092008.htm
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Why not use up the cheap oil in the middle east first, then leave the rest of the world with nothing?
The the USA would still be on top economically, militarily, socially, AND have all the important resources.
This is what the arab “street” always talks about -— they will have nothing in 25 years.
It’s time to begin the destruction of the House of Saud, as well as release the stranglehold of the other dictators that are cuckolding us with energy dependance. Drill now and get serious about it!
Using the water assumes it cannot be recaptured and recycled by any means, that the water, converted to steam, is merely allowed to blow away in the wind.
What are the sources of water available there? Some would be fossil water, or water of crystalization, that is already present in the immediate environment. Another would be recapture of the water vapor from the fuel used in the process of heating the steam needed for this extraction process.
A different approach may be to insert RF-generation units into the body of oil shale, in a pattern that focuses the microwaves inward to a certain point, and concentrating the energy there until the heat reaches the critical point.(which could easily exceed the 600º F. or so necessary to cause the kerogen to volatilize and separate from the strata in which it is embedded). Everybody has seen how a microwave works, same principle applied on a larger scale.
Up from the ground comes a’bubblin’ crude - oil, that is, black gold, Texas tea.
There will be some pretty hot rocks for a while, though. The soil will be THOROUGHLY sterilized. For remediation, it may be necessary to re-introduce the native flora and microbiota. But not until there is sufficient water also re-introduced to assure their regrowth. The fauna returns on its own.
Sen. Salazar (D-CO) is blocking the development of shale oil.
Why? Because the marginal supply is inadequate for our needs, at reasonable if not cheap prices, NOW. Not at some pie-in-the-sky date in future.
What cheap oil in the Middle East?
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