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Calif. police ID man they say fatally beat toddler
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | June 16, 2008 | AP

Posted on 06/17/2008 10:58:52 AM PDT by South40

TURLOCK – Police on Monday identified a man who was fatally shot by an officer for allegedly refusing to stop beating a toddler to death along a remote road. Sergio Casian Aguilar, 27, parked his truck on an unlit road Saturday night, removed a 2-year-old boy from his car seat and proceeded to stomp, kick and punch the boy to death, authorities said. The boy was unrecognizable when he was pronounced dead at Emanuel Medical Center, the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department said.

Authorities have not released the boy's name but say they believe he was Aguilar's son. The Stanislaus County coroner and the California Department of Justice are testing DNA to confirm the relationship. Several motorists called 911 and tried to stop the beating, authorities said.

Dan Robinson, a local volunteer fire department chief, told The Modesto Bee that at first glance, he thought the child was a dead animal in the road. He said when he realized it was a child, he tried to stop Aguilar.

He said Aguilar had a “total hollowness in his eyes” and talked calmly of the boy being filled with “demons.”

Witness Lisa Mota told the San Francisco Chronicle that Aguilar told people who tried to stop him that the boy was “trash.”

Responding to 911 calls, a Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department helicopter landed in a dairy pasture near the scene. A Modesto police officer, Jerry Ramar, fatally shot Aguilar after he failed to heed the officer's warning to stop beating the child, authorities said. Aguilar flashed his middle finger at Ramar before Ramar shot him in the forehead, police said.

“I have never seen anything like that before and I hope I never have to again,” Ramar said of the beating.

Authorities have not released the name of the boy's mother.

Aguilar had no previous criminal history, police said. Results of toxicology tests on Aguilar are expected in four weeks.

Ramar has been placed on paid administrative leave, a routine response for officer-involved shootings.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; demons; diversity
Aguilar flashed his middle finger at Ramar before Ramar shot him in the forehead, police said.

That was too quick and painless for this slug.

1 posted on 06/17/2008 10:58:52 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Im not surprised,,, what a POS,,, is he legal?


2 posted on 06/17/2008 11:02:26 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: All
Population of California -1
Population of Hell +1
3 posted on 06/17/2008 11:03:10 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: South40
Same Identity as this guy?
4 posted on 06/17/2008 11:03:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: South40

I do not understand “witnesses tried to stop him”...what’s with the tried?
What did they do, yell stop?
Why didn’t someone jump him and kick the living tar out of him?
Why not a tire iron to the head?
“Tried”, they did not try hard enough.


5 posted on 06/17/2008 11:05:24 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: ßuddaßudd
is he legal?

He sure is now.

6 posted on 06/17/2008 11:06:01 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ßuddaßudd
is he legal?

The AP wouldn't tell you if he wasn't because, as Geraldo would say, it had no bearing on his decision to commit this crime.

7 posted on 06/17/2008 11:06:13 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40
The report states that there were people there and some tried to stop him. How?

For God's sake! Didn't someone there have the gonads to make a flying tackle and get the piece of scum away from the child?

8 posted on 06/17/2008 11:06:18 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: South40

God bless Officer Ramar.


9 posted on 06/17/2008 11:07:44 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: svcw

I understand what you’re saying. Had I been the witness he would have been dead before the police arrived.


10 posted on 06/17/2008 11:08:21 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

“Aguilar flashed his middle finger at Ramar before Ramar shot him in the forehead, police said.”

He must have been requesting one to the forehead.


11 posted on 06/17/2008 11:09:42 AM PDT by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your tax dollars)
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To: South40

I am only 5’2” and weigh 130 pounds but I hope to God that if I would have been there I would have had the courage to take a tire iron to him.


12 posted on 06/17/2008 11:10:38 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, freerepublic.com baby)
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To: OldMissileer

The law-abiding citizens were unarmed.


13 posted on 06/17/2008 11:12:59 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: svcw
I do not understand “witnesses tried to stop him”...what’s with the tried?

Exactly. He was one individual, unarmed.

He even asked people in the crowd if they had any weapons he could borrow to use on the child.

Unless several people at the scene were treated for serious injuries they suffered trying to stop him, this is a more infamous incident for bystanders than the Kitty Genovese case ever was.

14 posted on 06/17/2008 11:13:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: svcw
“Tried”, they did not try hard enough.

As Yoda said, "Try not. Do or do not. There is no 'try'."

I'd have been all over this POS like white on rice and at light-speed. Then I'd have given him exactly what he gave.

15 posted on 06/17/2008 11:17:01 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: South40

I suspect drug use.

If so, then for consistency’s sake, the pro-drug use iberal-tarians here should be happy.


16 posted on 06/17/2008 11:18:12 AM PDT by zipper
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To: South40

I am glad this monster is dead.


17 posted on 06/17/2008 11:25:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: South40

Didn’t any of those passing motorists have a tire iron?


18 posted on 06/17/2008 11:28:49 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: South40

[That was too quick and painless for this slug.]

I wonder when the Constitutional experts will show up here to argue that Aguilar’s rights were taken away? I believe most cops are trained to make chest shots, not head shots, so it is likely this was an on the spot execution. But you know, California would have given the guy three square meals for the next fifty years if he’d lived.


19 posted on 06/17/2008 11:29:43 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: wideawake

Speaking of Kitty Genovese, did you know the piece of filth who committed that crime (among others over the years) is still alive? REading a description of him and his ‘life’s work’ is chilling.


20 posted on 06/17/2008 11:35:25 AM PDT by Borges
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To: OldMissileer
The answer to the why not is the fact that it happened in the state of California...no more explanation needed. If it had taken place in Texas, this guy would have been dead the second the first person rolled up on the scene and unholstered his/her constitutional right to bear arms...

There's nothing any man or woman could have done to this piece of trash that would be worse than what the good Lord is inflicting on him right now.

21 posted on 06/17/2008 11:36:10 AM PDT by SvdByFaith ("Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." - Jesus)
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To: Jonah Johansen

And heaven gained a 2 year old.


22 posted on 06/17/2008 11:36:39 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: zipper

Don’t really know much about libertarians, Do ya?


23 posted on 06/17/2008 11:36:47 AM PDT by Shellback Chuck
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To: South40
Another post said folks were afraid that "he had something in his pocket".

At one point, the demon reportedly left off stomping the child, walked over and turned on the emergency flashers on a passerby's truck for him (leaving blood in the truck). I can't believe that someone didn't poleax him with a tire iron while he was busy doing that...

Of course, if it had been here in Texas, the cops would have landed only to examine his bullet riddled corpse...

24 posted on 06/17/2008 11:38:44 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: zipper
I support alcohol being legal. Do have to be happy every time there is a DWI fatality to be consistent?
25 posted on 06/17/2008 11:45:32 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: Borges
Ah, yes. The can-in-the-can guy.

He'll die in prison.

26 posted on 06/17/2008 11:48:52 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Sergio Casian Aguiar

"Birth records show the boy was born May 8, 2006, at Emanuel. His name has not been released, but a manager at the Turlock apartment complex where the mother, Frances Liliana Casian, and son live said he was named after the father: Sergio."
27 posted on 06/17/2008 11:49:12 AM PDT by ktime
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To: South40

We are in shock. Unspeakable evil. I am glad, however, that the baby is in the Arms of Jesus.

The perp was the devil’s useful idiot.


28 posted on 06/17/2008 11:51:03 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: South40

Was there no one there who could stop this man from beating this toddler? I hear of at least two people trying to stop him, but the man goes back to beating the child. How is it that an entire group of people could not stop this unarmed man from killing this child, but were there to witness the entire murder?

A tree branch across the back of the head might have saved this child’s life. A man or woman willing to take a beating themselves could have distracted the murderer long enough for the police to arrive. Was there no one who was willing to save this child?


29 posted on 06/17/2008 11:51:54 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: snarks_when_bored
“Didn’t any of those passing motorists have a tire iron?”

Or a decent folder. For all of California's goofy laws on CCW the law regarding knife carry is not that bad ,relatively speaking. The same rules apply for use of deadly force with a knife as a gun ie: “fear of death or great bodily injury”. That being said someone would have to have the guts to close with the POS and take him on with a blade with lethal intent. This situation has elements of the Kitty Genovese incident.

http://www.equalccw.com/knifelaw.html

30 posted on 06/17/2008 11:55:59 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: South40

One things for sure, the poor kid and his father will never cross paths forever.


31 posted on 06/17/2008 12:04:49 PM PDT by AU72
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To: wideawake

Can you believe he actually gave this defense at his last parole hearing...”For a victim outside, it’s a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”


32 posted on 06/17/2008 12:07:38 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Most sociopaths do a better job of concealing their true thoughts from authority figures.


33 posted on 06/17/2008 12:11:02 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: South40
Ramar shot him in the forehead

Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, that's a tough shot with a handgun.

I wonder what the distance was [10 feet or more?] and how many rounds it took him before he scored a hit.

If it was at 20+ feet, on the first shot, with the adrenaline coursing through his veins, then that's pretty darned impressive.

34 posted on 06/17/2008 12:17:03 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: South40
A Modesto police officer, Jerry Ramar, fatally shot Aguilar after he failed to heed the officer's warning to stop beating the child, authorities said. Aguilar flashed his middle finger at Ramar before Ramar shot him in the forehead, police said.

Works for me...

35 posted on 06/17/2008 12:53:48 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: South40

No offense, but if they don’t say, he probably was illegal. If he was legal they probably would have made a point somewhere in the article to indicate that.


36 posted on 06/17/2008 1:26:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: FastCoyote

Actually with the ease of obtaining body armor I have revised my shot sequence to two in the crotch and one to the head.


37 posted on 06/17/2008 2:04:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: bird4four4
I support alcohol being legal. Do have to be happy every time there is a DWI fatality to be consistent?

If you're a liberal-tarian, you do.

38 posted on 06/17/2008 11:04:28 PM PDT by zipper
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