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We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
Recent AP vs fair use threads ^ | June 17, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is our Boston tea Party.

The Associated Press wants to levy a $12.50 and up license fee (aka extortion fee) on any blogger who quotes more than 4 words from one of their propaganda pieces. This is an outrageous attempt to control the blogosphere and free speech itself. To hell with their license fee and to hell with the AP. Any AP article that gets posted to FR will be jettisoned into the harbor posthaste.

Please do not post any AP material to FR excerpted or not.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; agitprop; americanpravda; antiamericanpress; ap; apbias; associatedpress; asspress; censorship; copyright; dbm; fairuse; faq; fascists; freepspeech; freespeech
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1 posted on 06/17/2008 1:24:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


2 posted on 06/17/2008 1:25:49 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sic Transit Gloria AP!


3 posted on 06/17/2008 1:26:13 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump for you Jim!


4 posted on 06/17/2008 1:26:53 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Jim Robinson

No great loss here. The wildly partisan “news” outlets such as AP and Reuters are helping themselves along the road to eventual extinction.


5 posted on 06/17/2008 1:27:16 PM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: Jim Robinson

We’re behind you 100 percent Jim!

They are trying to control free speech.

The AP and the other Dinosaur media are trying to find ways
to keep from being scrutinized.

They’re using this and the Fairness Doctrine to try and quiet the new media.


6 posted on 06/17/2008 1:28:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: reagan_fanatic
Should we allow AP to make its own rules defining (restricting) Fair Use or should we boycott them?

" Tell 'em boss! To hell with that, and to hell with AP! "

7 posted on 06/17/2008 1:28:44 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Jim Robinson

You da man, Jim.


8 posted on 06/17/2008 1:28:45 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will say it’ll lower my blood pressure not having AP around. They are truly on a par with al Jazeera. BTT.


9 posted on 06/17/2008 1:29:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jim Robinson

I guess the vaunted Associated Press is above the law.

For there is already a perfectly adequete “Fair Use” law that protects from plagiarism but allows for a “fair use” of content.

This silly edict by them is going to make them more enemies than friends.


10 posted on 06/17/2008 1:30:01 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Jim Robinson

OMG! Selectively enforced, I’m sure.

Roger, no AP articles.


11 posted on 06/17/2008 1:31:20 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s the AP?


12 posted on 06/17/2008 1:32:27 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (300 Million People Going Bust Over High Gasoline Prices and Hussein Obama Wants to Hug Trees.)
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To: Jim Robinson
BRAVO! AP = Anti-American Poop and they have always been a supporter of al-Qaeda just like CNN.
13 posted on 06/17/2008 1:32:43 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: Jim Robinson; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

14 posted on 06/17/2008 1:32:45 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Jim Robinson

Lets just bill them $15.00 for every article that shows up on our computer.


15 posted on 06/17/2008 1:32:54 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: Jim Robinson

The AP is shooting themselves in the foot, here. If people are not permitted to post their pieces, nobody is going to see them.

Not many people are going to drop coins in a slot to read AP stories in a newspaper. If they want to stop the Internet so they can get off, that is their choice.


16 posted on 06/17/2008 1:33:50 PM PDT by gridlock ( If Obama becomes "suddenly" radioactive, the Supers are going find new respect the Popular Vote.)
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Please do not post any AP material

That's 7 words that I'm sure have appeared in the AP somewhere. Pay up.

It's hard to string 5 words together that HAVEN'T appeared in AP somewhere.

AP just screwed the pooch.

/johnny

17 posted on 06/17/2008 1:34:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Roger!


18 posted on 06/17/2008 1:34:16 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: gunnedah

Anyone got the AP’s billing address?


19 posted on 06/17/2008 1:34:38 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (300 Million People Going Bust Over High Gasoline Prices and Hussein Obama Wants to Hug Trees.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Joseph Goebbels is saddened.


20 posted on 06/17/2008 1:35:57 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: Jim Robinson

FU AP.


21 posted on 06/17/2008 1:36:16 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park". We are so screwed.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Someone has got to stop this onslaught. We are losing our rights everyday!


22 posted on 06/17/2008 1:36:55 PM PDT by Dacula (I never left the Republican party, they left me a long time ago.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Copyright, The Associated Press,
450 W. 33rd St.,
New York, NY 10001.
23 posted on 06/17/2008 1:37:48 PM PDT by cdbull23 (What's going on in my brain? Check it out: cainsbrain.blogspot.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
Bravo, Jim!

Four words for AP:

Go to the devil!


24 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:01 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Jim Robinson

ATTA BOY JIM....SICK’EM!! I loathe the mediPUKES at A(ll)P(oop) with a passion.


25 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:01 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Jim Robinson

How ‘bout charging AP for posting, say $2 a word? Why should anyone spread their product around for free?


26 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You betcha boss!


27 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:11 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Okay, my question is this.

What about other news sources that say “from the Associated Press”?

Such, as say, something from the Omaha World-Herald, and its source is listed as the Associated Press?

This has got to be a real nuisance for you guys, and I don’t plan on contributing to it.


28 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:18 PM PDT by franksolich (Scourge of the Primitives, in Service to Humanity)
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To: Jim Robinson

Could we get a list of AP “papers?” I’d be happy to not click on any of them either.


29 posted on 06/17/2008 1:38:22 PM PDT by PrincessB ("I am an expert on my own opinion." - Dave Ramsey)
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To: Jim Robinson

The AP is just relying on the fact that most bloggers don’t have the money to go to court and face them to protect obvious fair use. I’m sure AP will try to get an idea of the financials of any blogger before sending any threatening letters.

As you all know, FR got hammered for the same, with some sites not even allowing the posting of short extracts. FR could have prevailed against such types if it had a sugar daddy willing to put up six years worth of operating expenses for a defense.


30 posted on 06/17/2008 1:39:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Glad to see you back in the captain’s seat!;)


31 posted on 06/17/2008 1:39:53 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

What’s the AP?

A publishing service for useless liberal drivel and rarely accurate psuedo news. They won't be missed.

32 posted on 06/17/2008 1:41:00 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Jim Robinson

AP= Absolutely Pointles


33 posted on 06/17/2008 1:41:39 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Jim Robinson
That's what they want! Don't let the terrorists win!
34 posted on 06/17/2008 1:42:11 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Jim Robinson

Who wants to read their drivel anyhow?


35 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:45 PM PDT by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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To: franksolich

I think the Omaha World-Herald would pay AP.

It certainly couldn’t/woudn’t pass through the fees.

Take FOX: probably 1/4 of it breaking news links are derived from AP. They’ll pass these costs to their advertisers.


36 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:45 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Jim Robinson

Something is wrong here. How do they prove a string of 5 words came from their work? And who has authority to make you pay?

Maybe I’m not understanding what’s going on.


37 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:47 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Good for you. They seem to be anti anything we believe in anyway. I do not read their junk.


38 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:58 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Jim Robinson

AP has become a vessel for the anti-American left allowing
their perverted commentary to seep into the news print.
If it’s from AP, it’s usually slanted, biased, and/or lacking context. I think we’ll get along fine without them.

Furthermore, no self respecting fish would want to end up in that mullet wrapper.....


39 posted on 06/17/2008 1:45:36 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse tchhat took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
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To: franksolich

That’s a good question. I see a lot of AOL or Yahoo! articles, for example, that have come from the AP.

I thought we couldn’t post directly from the AP (hostedap.org) already?


40 posted on 06/17/2008 1:46:18 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Rush on McCain: "We're so screwed.")
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

AP = Always Pimping


41 posted on 06/17/2008 1:46:35 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Jim Robinson
As my first name in Andrew and my second is Richard, I will expect that for any article posted here using those two words, I will have my Paypal account credited by $100. This is just business, really. Oh, and words that incorporate PARTS of my name will be credited at half the rate, so watch out for the use of AND and RICH. Individual letters found in my names will be at a bargin of five cents each. I figure that by the end of the year, I should own the planet, and Bill Gates will be doing my tech support.

Don't let me down guys!

42 posted on 06/17/2008 1:46:49 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Does that include links to AP articles?


43 posted on 06/17/2008 1:47:03 PM PDT by smithone
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To: Jim Robinson

AP =
Al-Qaeda Partisans
Allah’s Propagandists


44 posted on 06/17/2008 1:47:46 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen. Time to help sink AP into the “harbor”!


45 posted on 06/17/2008 1:48:00 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So goes the old Leftist creed; “If you can’t fight ‘em, regulate ‘em till they quit.”


46 posted on 06/17/2008 1:48:15 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: antiRepublicrat
FR could have prevailed against such types if it had a sugar daddy willing to put up six years worth of operating expenses for a defense.

And that is the problem in a nutshell- it takes a lot of money to even try to stop this sort of thing. I do hope someone, somewhere does put up the money to take this issue all the way- I do think it could be stopped.

I am not a Supreme Court justice- but I see posting articles on the internet for discussion as no different than folks sharing the morning paper and discussing articles in a coffee shop. I also do not see why any news organization would not want their work distributed. In the real world, not everyone that reads a paper or magazine paid to read it, and certainly not everyone that discusses an article pays for the right. It doesn't make sense to me at all.

47 posted on 06/17/2008 1:48:39 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So goes the old Leftist creed; “If you can’t fight ‘em, regulate ‘em till they quit.”


48 posted on 06/17/2008 1:48:56 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Turnabout is fair play. Be sure to send a bill to AP (and the 4,000 papers that carry their articles) if they quote any FR threads.

More FR content is working its way into the news media and “discussion” of things from the Obama rumors to exposure of media forgeries.

AP would have a hard time arguing “fair use” in light of the stance they are adopting.


49 posted on 06/17/2008 1:49:08 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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50 posted on 06/17/2008 1:50:24 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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