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Obama advisers say bin Laden can appeal to U.S. courts
The Examiner ^ | 06/17/2008 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 06/17/2008 1:39:36 PM PDT by WesA

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Barack Obama's foreign policy advisers said Tuesday that Osama bin Laden, if captured, should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts, a privilege opposed by John McCain.

Responding to questions from The Examiner, Sen. John Kerry and former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke said bin Laden would benefit from last week's Supreme Court decision giving terrorism suspects habeas corpus, the right to appeal their military detention to civilian courts.

“If he were to be brought back,” Clarke said of bin Laden, “the Supreme Court ruling holds on the right of habeas corpus.”

Kerry, who applauded the Supreme Court ruling, said it will be carried out by whichever candidate wins the presidency.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; binladen; bo; enemeycombatants; globaljihad; judiciary; nihilism; obama; richardclarke; sammon
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1 posted on 06/17/2008 1:39:37 PM PDT by WesA
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To: WesA

I believe in the right of habeas corpus mortis.


2 posted on 06/17/2008 1:42:52 PM PDT by AU72
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To: WesA

As I understand the horrendous SCOTUS decision, I think they are right.


3 posted on 06/17/2008 1:43:40 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: WesA

Every time Kerry opens his mouth, I am more overjoyed that he lost in 2004.

They seem almost HAPPY that their buddy Osama gets to come to America and get a civil trial. Are these people for REAL?

I can’t wait to hear Levin on this one.


4 posted on 06/17/2008 1:43:40 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: WesA
Dear Soldiers in the field....

Whichever one of you nails that pig-humper bin Laden with a double tap to the head will get a box of cigars and a bottle of the best Kentucky Bourbon I can find.

theDentist

5 posted on 06/17/2008 1:43:52 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: WesA
This viewpoint by the left, off shore drilling and exploration and gas prices will catapult McCain to victory against Obama. The majority of Americans are on the side with McCain on these issues. At this rate, we might take back Congress and will definitely keep the Presidency.
6 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:14 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: WesA

Stop resisting...
Stop resisting...
Tap, tap.

Problem solved.

The problem with this ruling is that it gives the military no incentive whatsoever to take these scumbags alive.
Maybe that’s not such a problem after all...


7 posted on 06/17/2008 1:44:25 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: BlueNgold

That is exactly correct. Just tap him and go on about your business.

This is the second mistake Obama has made today. Things are looking up.


8 posted on 06/17/2008 1:46:49 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: TexanToTheCore

Surely McCain would find a way to not allow him to be tried in our courts...right?? Could he be found not guilty due to insanity??


9 posted on 06/17/2008 1:49:52 PM PDT by WesA
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To: WesA

The Dems certainly understand the concept behind “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. How else to explain the clear affection for Bin Laden expressed by Kerry and Clarke. What sad cases they are. What a sad party they represent.


10 posted on 06/17/2008 1:52:02 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: WesA

If you are an enemy of the United States, you are a friend of John Kerry.


11 posted on 06/17/2008 1:52:19 PM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: WesA

12 posted on 06/17/2008 1:52:39 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: BlueNgold

Exactly.

“If he were to be brought back,”

Says it all.


13 posted on 06/17/2008 1:59:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: WesA

Absolutely. That is the necessary result of the Supreme Court’s opinion.

And you better read him his rights before you arrest him, as well.


14 posted on 06/17/2008 1:59:44 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: TexanToTheCore
That is exactly correct. Just tap him and go on about your business.

Rush had it right when he said this decision by the court basically means, take no prisoners.

15 posted on 06/17/2008 1:59:57 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Maceman
Yeah, the Scotus decision allows Bin Laden to have his day in civilian court. But they're saying he should be allowed a trial in civilian court. That's what they've always wanted.
16 posted on 06/17/2008 2:00:46 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: jrooney

>At this rate, we might take back Congress and will definitely keep the Presidency.

Stop drinking.


17 posted on 06/17/2008 2:01:39 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: WesA

I can see Ron Kuby preparing his “Islamic Rage” defense now. Kuby and his ilk will be in court talking about Bin Laden and friends as freedom fighters and comparing them favorably to the Founding Fathers. And millions of liberals will nod and agree with him.


18 posted on 06/17/2008 2:01:53 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: WesA

THIS should be on the fornt page of every piece of campaign literature McCain puts out.

Obama looks like the dumbest man who ever ran for President. He and Gore together couldn’t make an I.Q. of 120.


19 posted on 06/17/2008 2:02:48 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: WesA

National security ala Obama, Kerry, and Clarke.

God help this country.


20 posted on 06/17/2008 2:03:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Maceman

No wonder Scalia gets depressed. If the Constitution is the most important thing to him and it seems to be, he watches as it is continually shredded. We would be better off with grade schoolers interpreting the Constitution.


21 posted on 06/17/2008 2:03:44 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: WesA

Is anyone truly surprised? I know Obama supporters aren’t...


22 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Phantom Lord

My experience with Leftists is that they love trials because they are entertaining and their need to have one in this case has nothing whatsoever to do justice. They want a show.


23 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:24 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: WesA
That's a winner if Osama appeals to the 9th Circuit. Osama gets backpay, full benefits and a mansion in Chicago.
24 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:55 PM PDT by CarryingOn (The Presidency of the United States is not an entry-level position.)
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To: WesA

25 posted on 06/17/2008 2:10:47 PM PDT by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: WesA

Same rights as “ Winnie the Pooh”.

All is fair in “Love and War”.


26 posted on 06/17/2008 2:11:30 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: ZULU

He’s not just stupid, he’s downright scary. It’s like he wants Osama to be set free by the civilian courts. Extremists like him empathize with fellow-extremist terrorists more than they empathize with our own troops. See haditha for proof.


27 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:11 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: jrooney

Another Democrat Party before country position(work for their trial lawyer lobby). Imagine an O.J. verdict thanks to the left.


28 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:17 PM PDT by sportscaster ('LET'S ROLL")
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To: CarryingOn

This is really mind boggling. If Bin Laden is ever caught, he will be tried in a civilian court, apparently. He will have to be read his Miranda rights, and we will have to produce evidence, based on the laws used in civilian courts, that he conspired with Mohammed Atta and the boys to hijack the planes and crash them into buildings.

Amazing. A military court tribunal would be more justice than Bin Laden deserves, yet we will have to give him his rights as if he were an American citizen.

Maybe, if Bin Laden is ever caught, someone can administer justice to him, while superior officers look the other way?


29 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: WesA

Our new motto in the field; Take No Prisoners…especially Barry’s buddy!


30 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:49 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: WesA

Is this more wisdom from the Winnie-the-Pooh manual on National Security & Foreign Policy?


31 posted on 06/17/2008 2:15:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (My Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & NEW http://exposingobama.wordpress.com)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Personally, I think they would welcome Osama into the U.S. —to be Obama’s running mate. Go Obama/Osama — For a REAL change.


32 posted on 06/17/2008 2:20:28 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant has fallen and it can't get up.)
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To: AU72

Liberals=Quislings and morons.


33 posted on 06/17/2008 2:21:01 PM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: WesA

http://www.theobamafile.com/


34 posted on 06/17/2008 2:21:36 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: WesA

Because locking up the 1993 WTC bombers for “life” protected that building from further attacks and prevented the terrorists from seeing their goal accomplished. < /s >


35 posted on 06/17/2008 2:22:14 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: i_dont_chat
Is Osama eligible for the VP nomination?
36 posted on 06/17/2008 2:23:02 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: WesA

Must be a happy day for Obama - friend to every terrorist in the world


37 posted on 06/17/2008 2:23:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: WesA

And after Bin Laden’s acquitted by the OJ jury, Obama can appoint him Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. I’m sure he and his guys will be happy to clear as many city centers for redevelopment as they can.


39 posted on 06/17/2008 2:24:22 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: TheThinker

"I do solemnly swear on this Koran here, that I merely SUGGESTED to the holy students that flying into the World Trade Center MIGHT disrupt the evil doings of the Jews and their hideous cousins the Christians in the Evil Land of Amrika. I never actually TOLD them to do it."

40 posted on 06/17/2008 2:27:03 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: WesA

Is this serious? Kerry and Clarke are pleased by this? I hope it happens. Bring him back. Let the American people see the liberal establishment bending over backwards to protect OBL. Let the ACLU spend millions defending him. If there is any hope for this country the majority of decent Americans will be outraged. If not......goodbye “greatest nation on earth”, hello “third world”.


41 posted on 06/17/2008 2:28:24 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: WesA

Why don’t these guys just slap on a turban and take up the cause of jihad while they’re at it??

Good f’n grief...


42 posted on 06/17/2008 2:30:08 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Maceman
No. Note the key words:

"If he were to be brought back,”

The decision applies only to those brought back to US controlled territory or land (5 libs on SCOTUS ruled that Club Gitmo qualifies). If instead US forces captured him and detained him at a POW camp controlled by another country, then Habeas Corpus would not be applicable.

43 posted on 06/17/2008 2:33:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Michael.SF.

Go the next step...Headline: “Obama pardons Usama”.


44 posted on 06/17/2008 2:38:32 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: LibertyRocks


RUSH: This guy Obama is dangerous, because he's an idiot. I mean, really. They talk about how brilliant this guy is, that he went to Harvard and so forth. I did some checking. This guy never wrote anything at Harvard Law. He just had a law review. He never wrote anything -- probably on purpose, not to create a paper trail. Number two, he might not have been capable of it, for all I know. But I mean the things this guy says, the people he hangs around with, the associates he chooses to become part of his administration. Hell, he just went to somebody out there. He just hired somebody to be one of his big advisors on something who ended up quoting Winnie the Pooh! I'm not kidding. He quoted Winnie the Pooh in terms of foreign policy, how we have to behave. I'll find this. I've got four stacks here. Ah. Here it is today. It's Richard Danzig.

"Richard Danzig, who served as Navy secretary under President Clinton is tipped to become national security advisor in an Obama White House." By the way, I thought Obama was about all this change. He's getting a bunch of retreads from the Clinton administration to run the show here, just a full bunch of retreads. There's nothing new, here. Anyway, Danzig ran the Navy for Clinton and is going to be national security advisor in Obama's White House, "told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to this: 'If it is causing you too much pain, try something else.' Mr. Danzig told the Center for New American security, quote, 'Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.'" Now, I got this from our old buddy Jim Geraghty at National Review Online at the Campaign Spot. Now, this sounds like something you'd see on a satire Web page. "'Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.' He spelled out how American troops, spies, and anti-terrorist officials could learn key lessons by understanding the desire of terrorists to emulate super heroes like Luke Skywalker and the lust for violence of violent football fans." These are the people Obama seeks to surround himself with. He's a blooming idiot, folks.

Obama Will Follow Pooh Doctrine
45 posted on 06/17/2008 2:39:53 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: WesA

Well, if Bush had nailed Osama by now, this wouldn’t even be a comment.


46 posted on 06/17/2008 2:41:20 PM PDT by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001! That's SIX +years, Dubya.)
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To: LeonardFMason
Here's a dose of Barry's flavor of change (predictable status quo (read 'Good 'ol Days') for LibDems):

Imagine Barry as Prez, Joe "The Plagiarist" Biden as Veep, John "F'n" Kerry as Sec of State with Joe Wilson back in the Diplomatic Corps, Jamie "The Wall" Gorleick as AG, and Richard Clarke and Valerie Plame back in the intelligence community, or head of CIA, And Bill and/or Hillary in the SCOTUS....

After you get done puking, hold your nose and pull the handle for John McCain.

That was easy!

47 posted on 06/17/2008 2:55:33 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: WesA

I would agree on the condition that he turns himself in to a Southern local court and appears in person. Many of us have some ammo we have to use.


48 posted on 06/17/2008 3:01:49 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Brilliant

Why in the world would we want to treat terrorist like the average criminal? We are at war with terrorist who wear no uniform so they can blend in with the innocent people they murder. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be tried in military court, as enemy combatants . We are definitely our own worst enemy.


49 posted on 06/17/2008 3:07:40 PM PDT by peeps36
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To: WesA

Sen. Christopher Dodd’s father, who was one of the prosecutors at Nuremburg, would be rolling in his grave.

Be ashamed. Very ashamed.


50 posted on 06/17/2008 3:10:43 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Oh my! Disagreeing is now snide and a personal attack. How Obambi!)
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