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Can Associated Press control the blogosphere?
MSNBC ^ | June. 17, 2008 | Helen A.S. Popkin

Posted on 06/17/2008 4:57:40 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

The Associated Press took a grandiose Facebook-style faceplant last week when it attempted to impose strict guidelines on the blogosphere.

Now, just like Facebook’s initial unapologetic enthusiasm for its privacy-violating Beacon program followed by Facebook’s effusive apology for its privacy-violating Beacon program, the AP is bowing to the will of the angry Internet masses and backing off. Sort of. [snip]

[snip]To citizen journalists out in cyberspace, AP’s proclamation against one little aggregate site (much smaller in comparison to, say, Digg, etc.) rang like a shot across the bow of fair use, especially after an AP spokesperson announced that, from here on out, the news agency would take action against blogs, “when we feel the use is more reproduction than reference, or when others are encouraged to cut and paste.”

After some sort of emergency executive meeting, AP's Kennedy spoke to Saul Hansell of The New York Times. In what read like an effort to appease the enraged cyber mob, Kennedy admitted to the “heavy handed” verbiage in its Drudge Retort missive and assured all that better guidelines would likely result from The Big Blogging Meet-up this week.

(Meanwhile, according to The New York Times, the initial Drudge Retort cease and desist stands.)

It’s probably safe to assume that, diplomacy aside, the AP still feels pretty good about instituting some sort of restrictions on said cutting and pasting. So we’ve got a few interesting things in play here. On the one hand, there’s the sensible legal condition summed up by Hansell in the Times article: "One important legal test of whether an excerpt exceeds fair use is if it causes financial harm to the copyright owner."......"

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; blogosphere; monopoly; newmedia; weblogs
It looks like some moderation of the original demand is coming.
1 posted on 06/17/2008 4:57:41 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Just wait until they set their sights on FR.
2 posted on 06/17/2008 4:59:36 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: chaos_5

I am waiting. It is clear the AP lawyers have no proper concept of Fair Use. The reaction to the AP tactic is embarrassing them. They need to adopt a more reasonable position and limit of free excerpts.


3 posted on 06/17/2008 5:04:49 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: chaos_5

What ‘financial harm’ is inflicted on the AP by the ‘fair use’ of their articles?

If anything, MORE people are sent to read the original articles after seeing portions excerpted in posts.


4 posted on 06/17/2008 5:05:26 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
It looks like some moderation of the original demand is coming.

They'll reduce the price down to $10.50 for twenty words.
5 posted on 06/17/2008 5:05:31 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: CondorFlight
If anything, MORE people are sent to read the original articles after seeing portions excerpted in posts

I agree, they should encourage people to excerpt and link, It's good for overall readership.

6 posted on 06/17/2008 5:08:07 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: Man50D

They need to drop the lower limits altogether.


7 posted on 06/17/2008 5:10:38 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
You mean "Altogether Phony" is reacting to the market? Is H*ll suffering an ice age?
8 posted on 06/17/2008 5:12:33 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Let them eat yellowcake.


9 posted on 06/17/2008 5:15:35 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
We can start a new Daily thread on FR called, ‘Propaganda Daily’. All posts will begin with ‘According to the AP....’. That way we can paraphrase the jest and direct people to google for the content. Where there is a will there is a way. Many other great ideas popping up on this thread. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032436/posts

You just cannot keep a freeman down can you....

10 posted on 06/17/2008 5:16:52 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032436/posts


11 posted on 06/17/2008 5:17:18 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller

I like it — would that work? Would our moderator be OK with doing that? Makes sense to me.... Also like the “YODA” suggestion where everything is scrambled. Legally, I doubt anyone could sue under copyright infringement if it’s not a direct quote.


12 posted on 06/17/2008 5:26:18 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: JLLH
Don't know yet..no formal approval, just a lot of brainstorming going on. This won't work for the AP. It's all just a political power grab prior to the election.
13 posted on 06/17/2008 5:30:13 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Can Associated Press control the blogosphere?"

Nope.

14 posted on 06/17/2008 5:34:31 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I don’t think AP liked being threatened by the bloggers about being sued in kind for more than a 4 word quote from their sites. And really, what else does AP report that has anything but plagarized quotes from the blogs?


15 posted on 06/17/2008 5:40:11 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Fight back by sending AP the bill for the usage of YOUR words. Its as simple as that.



16 posted on 06/17/2008 5:41:44 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: pyx
Fight back by sending AP the bill for the usage of YOUR words. Its as simple as that.

That's sort of interesting. In principle, if you are interviewed by the AP at the scene of a crime or something, they should have to compensate you to use your words in their articles based om the spirit of their position in this matter, right? Same for photos, the people photographed should be compensated for AP using their image commercially (unless they sign a waiver but imagine the potential in damages if they had to dole out a payment to everyone in a crowd shot of the Super Bowl....er I mean "the big game"...sorry NFL!

17 posted on 06/17/2008 8:09:07 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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