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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: freespirited

A candidate for POTUS has posted a fraudulent birth certificate on his campaign web site and no official from the state says a word?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam’s_Razor


141 posted on 06/17/2008 9:09:58 PM PDT by SpankyInChicago
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To: RetSignman

I believe that Goldwater was born in the AZ territory in 1909 and was deemed okay to run for Pres. in 1964.


142 posted on 06/17/2008 9:10:24 PM PDT by xiangchi
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I work in PS and there are a lots of bad areas that could lead one to think it is not a copy of the original but created on a computer.
Anyone else?

Not me, but if you go to the original site and read the 3rd comment down, the guy says he was in computer aided design and computer graphics fields and was a graphics designer without a computer. He agrees with the poster's research.

143 posted on 06/17/2008 9:11:01 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: ClearCase_guy; All
Take it from a graphic artist: A laser printer works with vector (mathematical) lines, not bitmap. They do this for the express reason of creating documents with smooth characters. Even if someone were to reproduce the document in Photoshop or some other bitmap based program, while the text would have the characteristic, "jagged" edges, there would be no artifacts (blocks or dots) around the text. This is a very amateurish forgery. I can't believe that this is really supposed to be his birth certificate. I still cannot deduce if the person who posted it has any connection with Obama in the first place, which makes the whole thing a non-issue. Can someone explain why this blog poster or this document is really supposed to represent Obama's birth certificate?
144 posted on 06/17/2008 9:11:07 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: RetSignman
If he were just three years older he would NOT be eligible to even run for the office of president because Hawaii wasn't a state at that time.

Wrong. If he was born in Hawaii in 1958, he would be eligible to be president, because Hawaii was an American territory at that time.

That's basically the same situation that pertained to Barry Goldwater, who was the GOP nominee for president in 1964. Goldwater was born in Arizona Territory in 1909. Arizona became a state in 1912. A court ruled that he was indeed a native-born citizen of the United States and satisfied the constitutional requirements to be president.

145 posted on 06/17/2008 9:16:00 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: pissant

Thanks for the ping. Very interesting...


146 posted on 06/17/2008 9:22:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: usmcobra
And isn’t a deliberate forgery still a forgery even if it is meant to be exposed as such?

Absolutely.
I just think that it should be taken to the next level, ie., find the source of this forgery and "follow the money". If the source can be traced to the B. Hussein Obama campaign, then THAT would require explanation.

....except that the "mainstream" Democrat news media is protecting Obama the way a mother protects a slow, clumsy child, so we couldn't count on them for any serious investigation.

147 posted on 06/17/2008 9:23:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: xiangchi

I think both AuH2o’s parents were American citizens?


148 posted on 06/17/2008 9:30:29 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: JLS
...his fathers race was listed as AFRICAN? His mother’s race is listed as CAUCASIAN. Is African something a modern person chose rather than the currently unPC negro?

No, because he is not Negro-African.

He is 50% Caucasian, 43.75% Arab, and only 6.25% Negro-African. He doesn't have the lawful 12.5% Negro-African to legally claim to be African-American. Barak Hussein Obama is ARAB-AMERICAN.

See research here.

149 posted on 06/17/2008 9:33:32 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Jo Nuvark

That has to refer to the current document version. In this case, evidently the blank for version was created Nov 2001 for use on laser devices.


150 posted on 06/17/2008 9:34:59 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Lancey Howard

Another thing that has bothered me is the absence of folds.

Let’s assume for a second that it is a truncated duplicate of the original, then why is it so pristine as to have never been touched by human hands?

It is too good to be real.


151 posted on 06/17/2008 9:35:32 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: freespirited
More “Fake but Accurate” documents from the Democrats(lying socialists).
152 posted on 06/17/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: NathanR
You are exactly right.

But there’s a bigger problem here than the document’s chain of custody. It involves the difference between a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Certification of Live Birth”.

No governmental institution I've ever dealt with has ever accepted the Certification -- but instead have requested I supply them with a Certificate of Live Birth. Medical institutions in CA. Public School places. And how do I know this, because I got the two documents confused; and officials told me they do not accept the Certification; but require the actual Certificate of Live Birth.

153 posted on 06/17/2008 9:43:46 PM PDT by Alia
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To: BIGLOOK

Exactly! The “Certification” has no such seal. The Certificate DOES have the seal.


154 posted on 06/17/2008 9:45:16 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Just A Nobody

Thanks for the new tag!


155 posted on 06/17/2008 9:45:43 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama is 50% Caucasian, ***43.75% Arab***, and only 6.25% Negro-African.)
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To: Tammy8
Some states also had the word bas*ard on them if parents were not married- I have seen that on old BCs, where it asked for father’s name- don’t know when they quit doing that.

Obama says in his autobiography that he never took the time to nail down whether his parents were actually married. Given his penchant for shading the truth, I suspect what that really means is that he found out they were never married but does not want to admit it.

It makes no sense to me that an attorney obsessed with his background would have made no such effort, especially given how simple it would have been while he was working at a law firm.

Obviously the only way to know for sure is to visit the HI courthouse and search the records for evidence of the Obama divorce. If it's not there, they were never married.

156 posted on 06/17/2008 9:46:37 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: usmcobra
Another thing that has bothered me is the absence of folds.

Excellent point!

157 posted on 06/17/2008 9:50:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: justiceseeker93
Why would the Certificate No. on the alleged "Certificate of Live Birth" be blacked out? The guess here is that the creator of this bogus document didn't have the real document at all, and thought that putting a phony certificate number on it might give the forgery away - if that number could be checked against the state birth registry.

That is an EXCELLENT point. My guess would be that real copies are made on special blank pages with pre-printed consecutive numbers. The numbers are often in red ink and are done in a funny font that the typical word processing program probably lacks.

If it's a forgery, a certificate number can't be used unless the odd font is available. So, the logical thing is to black it out that area as if protecting the individual's privacy. Which as you point out makes no sense; there is no reason to redact the certificate number.

158 posted on 06/17/2008 9:54:46 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: txflake

Wear it in good health.


159 posted on 06/17/2008 9:56:35 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Buckhead

ping


160 posted on 06/17/2008 9:57:07 PM PDT by freespirited
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