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Energy Fears Send Dems, GOP In Opposite Directions
Investor's Business Daily ^ | Jun 18, 2008 | Sean Higgins

Posted on 06/18/2008 7:25:17 PM PDT by neverdem

As gas prices soar past $4 a gallon, Congress and the presidential candidates are hard at work trying to assign blame for the record prices, and when they finish that, suggesting fixes.

For Republicans the answer is simple: We need more energy and the best way to get it is to expand domestic production through new drilling. For Democrats the problem is the energy industry itself -- both domestic and foreign -- and it needs to be brought to heel under new regulations.

The stakes are high. Polls show anxiety over energy prices now trumping terrorism as a top concern of voters. Getting out in front of the issue could rescue Republicans eager for a boost -- or turn the current pro-Democratic tide into a tsunami.

Democrats have attacked the oil industry for "excessive profits," called for suing OPEC and more recently alleged that "excessive speculation" by commodities traders has driven prices up. They have damned Republicans as "obstructionists" for opposing these efforts.

Republicans counter that this is a classic supply and demand problem. None of the Democrats' proposals would actually increase the supply of energy, they argue. Republicans have also repeatedly hit Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for comments that suggest that he favors higher gas prices.

McCain Says Drill Offshore

GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain attempted to move those numbers in his direction with a speech in Houston on Tuesday. The Arizona senator called for lifting the federal moratorium on offshore drilling...

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Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., a member of the House Appropriations Committee, advocated nationalizing U.S. refineries, Fox News reported Wednesday.

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But Republicans may have a winning issue. A new Rasmussen survey found that 67% of voters favor offshore drilling vs. 18% who disagree. Even a plurality of self-described liberals favor the idea.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; dems; drilling; energy; gop; oil
The donkeys could Congress on energy.
1 posted on 06/18/2008 7:25:18 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: All

Argh! The donkeys could lose Congress on energy.


2 posted on 06/18/2008 7:28:47 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

The Donkeys could get stomped on this issue.


3 posted on 06/18/2008 7:28:47 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: neverdem

DRILL NOW!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 06/18/2008 7:29:41 PM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: DarthVader

I wrote my Donkey, er congressman, on this issue. I can’t wait for the response.


5 posted on 06/18/2008 7:33:24 PM PDT by PrincessB ("I am an expert on my own opinion." - Dave Ramsey)
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To: neverdem

If the Donk at the top of the ticket keeps braying “Change” he might win the White House but lose the Congress.


6 posted on 06/18/2008 7:33:30 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon)
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To: neverdem

A Bush win would be catastrophic for the Dems on many levels.


7 posted on 06/18/2008 7:33:33 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: neverdem

Question: How do we lower gas prices?

Republican answer - “Drill more oil wells! Build more reactors! Build more rfineries!”

Democrat answer - “Hold more hearings! Tax the oil companies! Nationalize privately owned energy companies!”


8 posted on 06/18/2008 7:33:33 PM PDT by airborne (Obama vs. McCain - A nose dive or a slow spiral. Either way, we're destined to crash and burn!)
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To: lookout88

Nice to see McCain flip-floping on energy. Perhaps the record fund raising by the GOP convinced him to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans.


9 posted on 06/18/2008 7:36:56 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: DarthVader
"The Donkeys could get stomped on this issue."

As long as the blame is focused on them as it should be. This is a hot button issue and even McCain figured this out.

10 posted on 06/18/2008 7:37:42 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: neverdem
Lemme see....'Big Oil' makes around 8 cents per gallon net profit, retail.....the Imperial Federal Gummint makes 18 cents per gallon through taxes.........Yup - It's Big Oil, trying to cheat 'the people' out of the 26 cents per gallon that Washington says they can spend much more efficiently, thereby providing the Land of Milk and Honey that Evil Capitalism denies the poor, oppressed domestic peasantry.

Go pound sand, Washington.


11 posted on 06/18/2008 7:41:30 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak and Michelle: The Sheik and The Freak.)
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To: airborne
“Hold more hearings! Tax the oil companies! Nationalize privately owned energy companies!”

Cater all over again. Those of us who are old enough to remember know how that worked out.

12 posted on 06/18/2008 7:41:34 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: neverdem

why do we keep reading on FR there’s no diff between R’s and D’s?


13 posted on 06/18/2008 7:43:12 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: neverdem
The donkeys could lose Congress on energy.

As well they should. Hopefully, the hit in the pocketbook will knock some sense into the American public. 9/11 didn't do it, even though the behavior of the dems since that day has been scandalous at best.

P.S. RE: your tagline--me too--sometimes I think it's our only hope.

14 posted on 06/18/2008 7:43:41 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: gusopol3
"why do we keep reading on FR there’s no diff between R’s and D’s?"

Because in some cases there isn't.

15 posted on 06/18/2008 7:46:32 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: neverdem

Rep. Maxine Waters spilled the neo-Marxist thinking in Congress last week when she started to say that “this liberal wants to nationalize -er-uh-let the government run the oil companies.”


16 posted on 06/18/2008 7:49:18 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: neverdem
Let them know how you really feel -- that dimocrats are wanting higher gas prices!

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

17 posted on 06/18/2008 7:50:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: neverdem
The article discusses this as if the two positions are equally worthy of consideration. As the democrats become crazier and crazier their rantings are treated seriously because they are democrats.

It simply does not make sense to block domestic energy supplies when the problems are high price and dependance on foreign suppliers.

18 posted on 06/18/2008 7:59:17 PM PDT by Williams
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To: airborne

Don’t forget SUE OPEC.


19 posted on 06/18/2008 8:21:37 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: blackbart.223
Because in some cases there isn't.

Nope, it just some talk hosts in the "conservative" media have gotten so used to shooting the GOP in the back every day on every issue they don't know what else to do.

Time for Conservatives to turn off these talking head Democrat press agents posturing as "betrayed Conservatives" off.

91% of Republicans voted for increase US Energy production, 87% of Democrats voted against any increase in US Energy production

The always complaining crowd in the "conservative" media better wake up real soon unless they want to see what a 60+ Democrat Senate majority will do to them.

GOP isn't perfect, but they are 100,000,000 times better then the current Democrat Congressional Leadership.

20 posted on 06/18/2008 8:34:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: neverdem
Drill now! Improve everyone's 401K’s instead of the Arab Sheiks’ bank accounts.
21 posted on 06/18/2008 8:45:04 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: MNJohnnie
"Nope, it just some talk hosts in the "conservative" media have gotten so used to shooting the GOP in the back every day on every issue they don't know what else to do."

Have you ever listened to some of the words coming from John McCain's or Arland Specter's mouths? Thank god McCain seems to be coming around.

I am a life long Republican And I don't like some of what I see.

22 posted on 06/18/2008 8:48:46 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: lookout88

That’s right. It’s our oil and we want it now!!!


23 posted on 06/19/2008 2:43:44 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: PrincessB

My Senators and Rep are all for offshore drilling, but I keep emailing them just to show support. Everyone needs to do the same. It WILL change their minds.


24 posted on 06/19/2008 2:47:25 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: blackbart.223
Now he just needs to figure it out a bit more and drop his shilling for the “green” B.S. It is a non-issue now for most voters.
25 posted on 06/19/2008 2:58:37 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Mygirlsmom; neverdem
Mygirls, I think now it is our only hope, but we've gotta keep trying to “help ourselves”.
26 posted on 06/19/2008 3:01:57 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Williams

Even if the prices weren’t high, we should be using our own energy as opposed to that purchased from our enemies. It just makes no sense!


27 posted on 06/19/2008 3:05:18 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Williams

It’s that “parity” thing again. The MSM always uses that old trick, granting veracity where there is none.


28 posted on 06/19/2008 3:07:30 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: neverdem
For Republicans the answer is simple: We need more energy and the best way to get it is to expand domestic production through new drilling.

Virtually every story I've read recently posits this as an either-or question. That is not true. One can be pro-drilling, pro-renewables, pro-conservation, pro-nuclear, pro-clean coal, etc. all at the same time. That by the way is President Bush's position and, by and large, the position of the U.S. government, not that the MSM can be bothered to report it accurately.

We're going to need all of the above. In the short run, however, the timetables differ. The fastest way to increase supply is probably to ramp up ethanol, although we may have to ride out a tough year if the flooding is as bad as feared. New ethanol plants can and will be brought online much faster than major new oil fields -- e.g. ANWR, the OCS, oil shales -- can be developed. Plug-in hybrids can probably also be deployed in large numbers before these new oil sources will hit the market. Longer term, hydrogen fuel cells and/or improved batteries will change the equation.

We're working on all this stuff, but the MSM keeps reducing it to "Republicans want to drill while Democrats want to conserve and provide alternatives."

29 posted on 06/19/2008 3:50:24 AM PDT by sphinx
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Justice? - Haditha again.

Second Amendment haze

The Problem with Obama's Father's Day Speech

Conservatives must act

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30 posted on 06/19/2008 9:53:44 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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For Democrats the problem is the energy industry itself -- both domestic and foreign -- and it needs to be brought to heel under new regulations.

31 posted on 06/19/2008 10:02:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
This is just too much fun!


32 posted on 06/19/2008 10:03:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 06/19/2008 10:20:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

I’m glad to see something dividing them. Lately it’s been hard to tell who is who.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 10:29:38 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Antoninus

Very good. Republican organizations need to use billboards to get out the message that it is Democrats who are responsible for the $4.00 gasoline and they want it to go higher.


35 posted on 06/19/2008 11:25:17 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: airborne

That is it to a T


36 posted on 06/19/2008 3:20:38 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Viking2002
"....'Big Oil' makes around 8 cents per gallon net profit, retail.....the Imperial Federal Gummint makes 18 cents per gallon through taxes........."

I would just love it if you had a source on that. I NEED to quote that to my lefty friends and relatives.

37 posted on 06/19/2008 8:48:02 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold; please pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: Antoninus; Conservativegreatgrandma
Agreed, it's brilliant. I would only add one thing. Somewhere near Obama's face in red:

(IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND, STUPID!)

Or

Remember Econ 101?
(IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND, STUPID!)

38 posted on 06/19/2008 8:56:45 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold; please pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: singfreedom
"My Senators and Rep are all for offshore drilling, but I keep emailing them just to show support. Everyone needs to do the same. It WILL change their minds."

I have Oh-Bomb-Us and Dick Turbin. I gave up long ago.

39 posted on 06/19/2008 9:02:54 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold; please pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Our county organization always has a booth at the county fair. We need to make stacks of copies of these and hand them out. WE also do parades. Maybe we could make cards and hand them out at the parades.


40 posted on 06/20/2008 4:23:52 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Antoninus

Is it ok with you if we use this?


41 posted on 06/20/2008 4:25:40 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: oprahstheantichrist
If you want to find hard statistical data, then Google '8 cent oil profit', or some other combination. The amount of data out there makes the mind swim. You're looking for a truncheon to beat them with; I suggest drowning them in a sea of numbers and charts. Moonbats aren't known for their patience or open-mindedness when you challenge their dogma - they'll go right off the deep end in less that 60 seconds.


42 posted on 06/20/2008 3:06:40 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak and Michelle: The Sheik and The Freak.)
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To: Viking2002
"I suggest drowning them in a sea of numbers and charts."

I know, isn't that a riot? I've found that the more big scientific-and/or-bureaucratic sounding words you use, peppered with specific publication dates and references including words such as "Institute," "Committee," or "Journal," the more they freak out. If you're face to face, their eyes glaze over, and they just stop talking, if it's over the phone, it's as if the phone goes dead.

Actually, it may be the most beautiful silence in the world, to shut down a moonbat, albiet temporarily, since they generally can only go a moment or two without hearing their own voices.

Aghast at the possiblility of being wrong, they quickly change the subject.

43 posted on 06/20/2008 8:35:02 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold; please pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
No, aghast at the possibility of being wrong, they'll change the subject by branding you a racist/sexist/religious fundamenatalist/environmental misogynist/pick-the-'ism'-of-choice, and storm away. It's the final refuge of a knowingly deluded mind.


44 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:29 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak and Michelle: The Sheik and The Freak.)
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