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Obama Opts out of Public Funding:
Time.com ^ | 06/19/2008 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 06/19/2008 5:53:22 AM PDT by WesA

The Illinois Senator makes the announcement Thursday morning in a video sent out to his supporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepage.time.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bundling; campaignfinance; commiedollars; electionpresident; fundingtheleft; fundraising; georgesoros; obama; obamalies; obamasama; obamatruthfile; osamabama; publicfunding; soros
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1 posted on 06/19/2008 5:53:27 AM PDT by WesA
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To: WesA

Well, well, well. Situational ethics at their finest.


2 posted on 06/19/2008 5:55:40 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Indeed. The Messiah has spoken.


3 posted on 06/19/2008 5:56:35 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: WesA

Didn’t they just file a lawsuit over McCains’s doing the same exact thing?......................


4 posted on 06/19/2008 5:57:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: WesA

So Soros can contribute as much as he wants


5 posted on 06/19/2008 5:57:44 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: WesA

Obambi doesn’t want any federal oversight after LARRY SINCLAIR outted him as a homosexual cocaine dealer...

Mr. Sinclair was arrested immediately after his Press Conference at the National Press Club by supposed U.S. Marshals...and whereabouts are unknown maybe in Delaware.


6 posted on 06/19/2008 5:57:54 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: AliVeritas; holdonnow; Miss Didi; Dog; STARWISE

A man of his word, ping.


7 posted on 06/19/2008 5:58:37 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Red Badger
Yep! The Obama camp wants the Fed. Election Committee to investigate McCain for violations when McCain decided not to take the public money!
8 posted on 06/19/2008 6:00:13 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: WesA

But, when “Whitey” does this, it’s considered a Bad Thing.

Stupid Socialists.

“McCain is hardly the first candidate to bypass federal funding for the presidential campaign. Current President George W. Bush did it in 2000, running against Al Gore, and again in 2004, when he faced Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, and nearly all candidates for the White House this year have elected to forego the public funding mechanism for their campaigns. Public funding provides presidential candidates with federal government funds that are to be used in both the party primary and in the general election.

According to the Federal Election Commission, federal funding of presidential campaigns began in 1976, but was first recommended by President Theodore Roosevelt in 1907. Roosevelt also proposed a complete ban on private donations. With a spending limit of just over $50 million, candidates could find themselves limited in tough, closely contested primaries that require substantial amounts of money to remain competitive.”

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/584295/mccain_says_no_to_public_funds.html


9 posted on 06/19/2008 6:00:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Red Badger
Didn’t they just file a lawsuit over McCains’s doing the same exact thing?......................

Yes the DNC did. They are trying to limit the amount of money that Mr. CFR can spend on his election so the Democrats can win by getting more ad time, more 527 exposure, and crushing the competition.

There is NO free speech in Obama's Amerikkka. Get used to it.

Democrats are out to win by any means necessary. Socialists lie. ALWAYS.

10 posted on 06/19/2008 6:00:23 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: WesA

He’s pathetic. Opts out of public funding, blaming McCain.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 6:01:34 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Red_Devil 232

I think it boils down to McCain saying that he would take the money and they are trying to hold him to that.

Obama DemocRats may have promised they would but if they did not sign anything there is no acceptance of the money.


12 posted on 06/19/2008 6:01:56 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: WesA
LOL. Gee, what a surprise. Obama has a huge advantage in fund raising and will not give it up to McCain who has turned off much of the GOP base and can't raise very much money. Hence, McCain's only choice is public financing. Obama would be stupid to give up his fund raising advantage. An only the Supid Party [GOP] would have its maverick as its standard bearer. You reap what you sow.
13 posted on 06/19/2008 6:01:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TomasUSMC

Probably for his own safety.


14 posted on 06/19/2008 6:02:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: WesA

Ooooh. Well, now he can spend all he wants. I wonder what liberals think about the huge amount of money in politics now.

Hey, just out of curiousity—I remember President Bush putting ON HIS WEB SITE the name of every contributor to his campaign and the amount they gave.

Is B. Hussein doing the same?


15 posted on 06/19/2008 6:05:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: holdonnow; All

~snip~

The campaign went even further in answers to a questionnaire sent to the various political campaigns in September 2007 by the Midwest Democracy Network. The questionnaire posed a very simple question to the candidates: “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?”

You can read Obama’s response here. The candidate highlighted the simple answer “Yes” and elaborated as follows:

In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.

~snip~

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/the_obama_pledge.html


16 posted on 06/19/2008 6:07:01 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

17 posted on 06/19/2008 6:07:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Red Badger
Didn’t they just file a lawsuit over McCains’s doing the same exact thing?

In a word, "no."

The issue with McCain is on the subject of public money for a PRIMARY campaign. McCain applied for that, "had his application approved" (the FEC certified his eligibility, and recited the amount of money the government owed him). There is an open question about whether or not McCain "used" the FEC promise to pay as collateral for a loan, or otherwise to advantage (IMO, he did, but the penalty is a $25,000 fine).

OTOH, Obama NEVER applied for public money in the PRIMARY campaign.

There is a completely separate system for funding a GENERAL election campaign. With regard to the general, both candidates have said, more or less "I'm in, if my opponent is in." Now McCain can blame Obama for breaking a promise - but I think it's better viewed as which one would be first to opt out so both can opt out. Now both can say thatteh public money is inadequate anyway, and advocate for increased amounts of public money so candidates aren't tempted to opt-out.

18 posted on 06/19/2008 6:10:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SE Mom

If the situation were reversed and McCain had a huge fundraising advantage, I seriously doubt that many here would be for him sticking to some pledge. Obama has the advantage in money and is not giving it up.


19 posted on 06/19/2008 6:11:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cboldt
There is a completely separate system for funding.....

Oh? Is there a completely separate set of taxpayers that we don't know about?.............

20 posted on 06/19/2008 6:12:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: yldstrk
Bought and paid for.


21 posted on 06/19/2008 6:14:37 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Red Badger
There are two "systems" if you will, one for PRIMARY elections, and another one for GENERAL elections.

The candidates have to apply for each one, separately.

Each "system" has different rules, etc. to suit the difference between a primary and an general election campaign.

22 posted on 06/19/2008 6:15:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kabar

Obama is showing a pattern. He CLAIMS often and forcefully that it’s time for a new tone, HOPE and CHANGE.

Is there any evidence to support this aside from rhetoric?

It’s not about his decision to go private- it’s about his blatant and typically politics-as-usual actions.


23 posted on 06/19/2008 6:19:39 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: COUNTrecount

I shudder every time I see that photo..


24 posted on 06/19/2008 6:36:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Red Badger

Absolutely. They want to tether McCain to public financing and legally prevent him from being competitive. It’s the “Chicago Way.”

This is guy is running for dictator. Soon after he becomes president we will all be sent to the gulags and reeducation camps and then come the lampshade factories.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 7:16:00 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: Red Badger

Go figure. Sue McCain for doing it first then do it yourself and tell the sheeple what a responsible messiah you are.


26 posted on 06/19/2008 7:18:41 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: SE Mom

How true. Now we’ll see how wedded McCain is to his campaign reform. I don’t see how he can limit himself when Obama isn’t, and will use that as an excuse to drop out of it. And if that doesn’t kill McCain-Feingold completely then I don’t know what will.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 7:20:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: WesA
Here's why H is gonna deal McCain a crushing victory... He comes out lying about the GOP 527s... McCain and GOP say NOTHING... In the previous elections (since CFR was enacted), the Dem 527s like Soros' groups, outspent the GOP by what, 20-1? And this sKum has the audacity to complain about GOP 527s...

That, in itself is not the reason he'll cruise to victory... nor is it the incredible discrepancy in funds, nor the MSM favoritism... It's the inability, or reticence, to fight back against these scurrilous charges... That's been Bush's downfall, and he's taken the GOP and conservatives along for a ride to rock bottom...

Lie after lie after lie? No response... Yellowcake? No response... War concocted in Crawford for political purposes??... no response... War for Oil???... no response... Tax cuts for the rich???... no response...

Seems like H can say anything he wants, with McCain wanting to just play nice. McCain's a disgrace. I despise him with everything I have... He doesn't have the fire in the belly to win, hell, even compete... What a disaster

28 posted on 06/19/2008 7:24:26 AM PDT by NYC Republican (weInfuriate the MSM---Vote McCain... John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...oh g)
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To: RichardW
This is guy is running for dictator.

I seem to recall another "dictator" named Hussein.............

29 posted on 06/19/2008 7:29:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: SE Mom

Do you read Chinese?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/10/obama_campaign_plans_fundraise.html

Obama Campaign Plans Fundraisers in China


30 posted on 06/19/2008 7:47:52 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: weegee

Unreal, isn’t it? I read about that the other day- this guy has some very slick people behind him.


31 posted on 06/19/2008 8:10:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: WesA
Obama lies and then he turns around and blames the Republicans for the amounts of money involved in Presidential Campaigns.
32 posted on 06/19/2008 8:32:39 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: COUNTrecount
I don't know how to photo shop,but if somebody could photo shop the stairs out of the picture in post 21, B.Hussein would look like the Messiah that he is. Floating on air making all things good.
33 posted on 06/19/2008 8:34:14 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Give them Watts boys!!")
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To: SE Mom

Is that photo for real? Why are Obama’s shoes almost coming off the steps like that? Weird.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 8:35:13 AM PDT by library user
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To: weegee

Actually, it boils down to McCain using that as security for a loan when his campaign was broke, and then opting out.


35 posted on 06/19/2008 8:37:17 AM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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To: Red Badger

Change, change you can believe in


36 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: WesA

This may have been decided after a closed door meeting between The Hildabeast Clinton and Obama. The Hildabeast probably had to explained the very real possibility of getting more money from foreign Chinese supporters along with his radical muslim supporters then the U.S. taxpayer supplied federal funds.


37 posted on 06/19/2008 8:40:04 AM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: yldstrk; Richard Poe
So Soros can contribute as much as he wants!

Then, George $oreA$$ can continue to finance Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas under the guise that the vast sums of money are coming from blacks on welfare.

38 posted on 06/19/2008 8:41:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: bill1952
Actually, it boils down to McCain using that as security for a loan when his campaign was broke, and then opting out.

Yes, it was not the same at all. People here need to get in touch with reality or we will look like a bunch of idiots.

39 posted on 06/19/2008 8:42:01 AM PDT by Stunned
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To: kabar

Victory is what we are going to sew. McCain is up against the most unqualified, phony, glass-jawed, clueless, clumsy, lying, empty suit, planless, pandering, no specifics whatsoever on anything, reactive, defined liberal in America. Have you noticed how McCain has controled the debate for the past month or so? First he attacked Obama for not going to Iraq for 2 and 1/2 years, and for never having met and spoken personally with General Petraeus. The he hit him on agreeing to meet leaders of enemy nations without preconditions. Next McCain challenged the messiah to 10 Town Hall debates which his all knowingness’ staff is negotiating with McCain’s team. The it was the “9/10 mentality,” followed by an attack on Obama for the messiah’s claim that Osama deserves the Miranda Rights (that’ll make a great McCain tv ad). Now he just kicked Obama’s butt on offshore drilling. Obama has clearly shown that he is a reationary and not a leader, and that’s what makes him a very fragile candidate who has a track record of not fighting back but one of whining and complaining about “distractions” and “unfair attacks.” Boo Hoo Obama, you complete wimp!


40 posted on 06/19/2008 8:42:42 AM PDT by moose2004 (y)
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To: moose2004
Victory is what we are going to sew.

Sow or sew?
41 posted on 06/19/2008 8:43:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: WesA

We can pretty much guarantee the reason isn’t because he wants to save the taxpayer money.


42 posted on 06/19/2008 8:45:21 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: COUNTrecount
Behold the Evil Whitey!

Obama's Preacher/Wife Problems Mean Nothing to Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Fanatical Cult and to Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas. The core/base of their pseudo religion is hating America and Whitey!

This is my church, the one I never quit.


43 posted on 06/19/2008 8:46:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: COUNTrecount

oros oroburos soros


44 posted on 06/19/2008 8:48:58 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: Cboldt
The issue with McCain is on the subject of public money for a PRIMARY campaign.

Of course the question I have to ask is why we the taxpayers are footing the bill for an internal party function -- choosing who they want to run. There should be no public funding for that, and I go so far as to say the parties should either hold their own primaries with their own people and equipment, or be made to reimburse all of the states and counties in the country for any expenses related to primaries.

45 posted on 06/19/2008 8:53:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WesA

I thought public funding was supposed to diminish the influence of private contributors.


46 posted on 06/19/2008 8:53:32 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: NYC Republican
"That, in itself is not the reason he'll cruise to victory... nor is it the incredible discrepancy in funds, nor the MSM favoritism... It's the inability, or reticence, to fight back against these scurrilous charges... That's been Bush's downfall, and he's taken the GOP and conservatives along for a ride to rock bottom..."

Don't assume that the GOP represents conservative values. They don't. They do what big money tells them and big money wants a liberal president. I first noticed this when Reagan didn't go on the offensive after Ollie North testified before Congress and wiped the floor with those hypocrites. Perfect chance to wipe out the lying Demos and Reagan did nothing. It took a bullet, but he got the message.

Same w/ GHWB. Worst campaign in history and it still took Ross Perot getting back in the last month to throw the election to Clintoon with a minority of the popular vote. Then GHWB's campaign manager marries Clintoon's campaign manager.

Don't try to tell me that U.S. elections aren't fixed.

47 posted on 06/19/2008 8:54:47 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: yldstrk

Soros has to be the darkest, most insidious influence in American politics. He is one of the “special interests” the Left loves, because they love his money.


48 posted on 06/19/2008 8:56:08 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: moose2004
the most unqualified, phony, glass-jawed, clueless, clumsy, lying, empty suit, planless, pandering, no specifics whatsoever on anything, reactive

When did that ever stop people from voting for someone? If it has cool packaging, they don't care if someone shows them there's a turd inside the box. Remember Hannity always asking people why they were Hillary supporters? Most couldn't answer the question rationally.

49 posted on 06/19/2008 9:01:44 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: NYC Republican; moose2004
Excellent post, moose! NYC, I understand your frustration with the GOP not fighting back...heck, never fighting at all. It will be up to us to educate the masses on this phony, creepy Barry Hussein, who has decided that he, the messiah we have been waiting for, should be our president. We can do this by sending out any information, vids, links, articles, etc. to everyone we know. Write letters, make calls, talk to people—I know, it's hard here in NYC to remain positive (have you seen the flood of Obama shirts on Canal St.?) It is imperative that we do so as this guy will ruin America and get us all killed.
50 posted on 06/19/2008 9:01:45 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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