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The British Called- They Want Their Guns Back
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Posted on 06/19/2008 12:40:49 PM PDT by shortstop

This should serve as a warning to all freedom loving Americans. Before pulling the lever this coming November, remember: both Hillary and Obama support draconian gun laws aimed not at criminals (because criminals don't obey the laws anyway), but at law abiding citizens.

Click on Source URL to play. It's 9 minutes, but worth it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; democrats; england; eurabia; gungrab; gunvote; issues; multiculturalism
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1 posted on 06/19/2008 12:40:49 PM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

I don’t believe Americans would so easy part with their weapons. Love to see the Gov. try though.


2 posted on 06/19/2008 12:50:13 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

I agree. I don’t think it could happen here.


3 posted on 06/19/2008 12:57:50 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: shortstop

Great video; very much worth watching.


4 posted on 06/19/2008 12:58:26 PM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you freep.)
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To: shortstop
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The Brits woke up. About time - but now that The People surrendered, will they regain their freedom?

5 posted on 06/19/2008 12:58:37 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: wolfcreek

Watch what you wish for. The supreme court doesn’t exactly seem to be following the constitution.


6 posted on 06/19/2008 12:59:22 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: wolfcreek

If guns were outlawed all at once, we would have a civil war. But first they take the guns away from kids and felons. Then they outlaw importation of cheap handguns. Then they outlaw manufacture of new machine guns, except to the GOVERNMENT, of course. Then they outlaw armor piercing handgun ammo. Then they outlaw scary black rifles. Then they redefine “armor piercing” to mean anything that will shoot through the lowest level of body armor and outlaw that ammo. Then they outlaw this gun because it is “too powerful” and that one because it is “too small” and that one because it holds too many cartridges..


7 posted on 06/19/2008 1:01:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: shortstop

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

Thomas Jefferson

The Brits deserve what they’re getting, though I strongly and deeply sympathize with their plight. The simple fact is that NO government, no matter how benign it appears on the surface, can be forced to do anything unless the governed have some means of compelling the desired action. The nature of government is to grow its power at the expense of the governed, and to never give back what it takes.

It is clear that the British government does not fear its people, so there is tyranny. All that the British Sheeple can do is bleat more often and more loudly for some of their privileges to be restored or partially restored. The Second Amendment was explicitly designed to make sure that such a situation never comes about here.

MOLON LABE!!


8 posted on 06/19/2008 1:03:49 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: shortstop

Video is slightly dated, but excellent (I believe Tony Martin was finally released from prison some time ago).

I promise you’ll never see me voluntarily turning over any of my guns to a government agent.


10 posted on 06/19/2008 1:05:54 PM PDT by jrp
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To: stuartcr

Any attempt on the part of the Federal government to circumvent the 2nd Amendment ought to be viewed as an attempt to circumvent the entire Bill of Rights and the Constitution as a whole. 70 million Americans will have a big problem with that.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 1:07:17 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this.


12 posted on 06/19/2008 1:08:28 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: shortstop

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13 posted on 06/19/2008 1:08:30 PM PDT by mandingo republican (Libs are Moloch worshipers I tell ya! - FREE HK, CUBA & IRAN - SATAN was the first liberal!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Trust me when I tell you that it will never get that far. The 2nd Amendment was written and appended to the Constitution just in case the Federal Government attempted to overturn any of the other Amendments in the Bill of Rights.


14 posted on 06/19/2008 1:11:58 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: stuartcr

The vast majority of them would be on our side.


15 posted on 06/19/2008 1:12:52 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: wolfcreek

“I don’t believe Americans would so easy part with their weapons. Love to see the Gov. try though.”

I do. The government will make it a felony to possess a gun. Thereby, anyone found with a gun arrested, charged and sentenced. This means for many that they will loose their jobs, loose their passports, etc. So, it is doubtful in my mind anyway, that average folks will “draw a line in the sand” and step across it because of this...


16 posted on 06/19/2008 1:13:52 PM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: stuartcr
I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this.

Take a trip to Obama's Chicago and you will see exactly that.

17 posted on 06/19/2008 1:15:46 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yet an assassin's favorite is a .22.
18 posted on 06/19/2008 1:18:29 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: All
I don’t think it could happen here.

That's the mindset that the anti-gun crowd is counting on.

19 posted on 06/19/2008 1:18:56 PM PDT by Dr.Syn
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To: All
I don’t think it could happen here.

How about men marrying men or the government telling you how much water the single flush of a toilet can use?

Naw...it couldn't happen here.

20 posted on 06/19/2008 1:20:58 PM PDT by Dr.Syn
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To: stevio
“The supreme court doesn’t exactly seem to be following the constitution.”

Right, them and so many of our Pols are trying to rid us of such a horrible document.

With the shift toward international law and globalism (NAU/NWO), there will come a day when someone comes for our weapons. (might not even be our own Gov)

We need to be prepared.

21 posted on 06/19/2008 1:23:22 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: snoringbear

Who said anything about *average*? I’m a Texan.


22 posted on 06/19/2008 1:25:44 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: snoringbear

Dude, if they come for our weapons, will have a lot more to worry about than our stinkin jobs and passports. What about our FREEDOM?


23 posted on 06/19/2008 1:28:22 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: shortstop
And McCain supports less draconian gun control laws...

Whoopee...

24 posted on 06/19/2008 1:29:30 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: stuartcr

It may very well happen here, city by city. Look at the demographics - fewer shooters and hunters per capita than 20 years ago. Yes, the NRA will put up a fight and the bogus American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) will have diffculty attracting new members but the Libs and their urban and suburban supporters (in the form of Dems or RINOs) gain strength every year.

Just look at Mark Kirk (R-IL) and “assault” weapons. What a nimrod! He’s playing into the hands of the Libs. Years ago his congressional district was reliably conservative and Republican; now, not so much. The influence of the left-leaning media and academic communities upon younger generations has been greater than many assume. Even worse, older folks are now buying into that crap. I don’t know if it’s dementia or a desire to be connected but it’s darn sad.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 1:30:34 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: stuartcr
I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this.

I can...


26 posted on 06/19/2008 1:31:02 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: stuartcr

“I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this.”

They do it all the time in CA, NY, MA, IL, CT and so on.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 2:15:26 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: wolfcreek

The enemies of state (democrats)will give it one hell of a try.


28 posted on 06/19/2008 2:30:35 PM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: shortstop

This video makes you ask yourself, “What will I do when they come for my guns?”


29 posted on 06/19/2008 2:38:31 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: stuartcr
I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this.

You're far too trusting.

 

 

 

30 posted on 06/19/2008 2:56:06 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: wolfcreek

“I don’t believe Americans would so easy part with their weapons.”

It’s much more likely that the federal fascists will resort to chemical and biological weapons in “problem” areas to take care of the gun issue. The ever-expanding girth of the typical federal bureaucrat could never hack it on a battlefield. Half would die from strokes and heart attacks.


32 posted on 06/19/2008 4:16:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (er the extra spears you made?)
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To: shortstop

Thomas Jefferson was truly a wise man....

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against tyranny in government.

— Thomas Jefferson

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it

— Thomas Jefferson

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the
spirit of resistance?
— Thomas Jefferson


33 posted on 06/19/2008 4:23:06 PM PDT by democratsaremyenemy
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To: shortstop

Learn from the Brits mistakes, folks. In the words of the previous President of the NRA Charlton Heston, “I have only five words for you: ‘from my cold, dead, hands’”

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw&feature=related

JoMa


34 posted on 06/19/2008 4:55:33 PM PDT by joma89
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To: andy58-in-nh

I agree.


35 posted on 06/19/2008 5:14:12 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: driftdiver

It is not illegal to purchase or own a gun in those states.


36 posted on 06/19/2008 5:20:02 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

Sure and you can get a concealed carry too, right?

Denying the outrageous infringement of the 2nd amendment that happens in states like I listed makes you quite suspect.


37 posted on 06/19/2008 5:26:31 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: wolfcreek
“Who said anything about *average*? I’m a Texan.”

Welcome to the club. I am a NBT (native born Texan) and don't consider myself average. But, the discussion is about the so called average person at if he/she will be motivated to step across the line. Or, as in the French Revolution, meet at the barricades. And, aside from unaverage folks such as yourself, I don't believe that so called average folks would be willing to make the big step over this issue.

38 posted on 06/19/2008 6:32:46 PM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: wolfcreek
“Dude, if they come for our weapons, will have a lot more to worry about than our stinkin jobs and passports. What about our FREEDOM?”

I understand what the issue is. However, the question is will the great unwashed join you at the metaphorical barricades? I don't believe that the average person would be willing to walk away from home, job, family for this and become a wanted and hunted criminal, that's all...

39 posted on 06/19/2008 6:37:21 PM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: wolfcreek
I don’t believe Americans would so easy part with their weapons. Love to see the Gov. try though.

1 in 10 would actively resist and be burned to death of gunned down in their homes with their families.

A handful of examples made and the rest would fall into line. Terror is a handy tool in the hands of an unscrupulous government and ours had had what few scruples it once possessed stripped away decades ago.

Today freedom and liberty doesn't mean what it once did. If it did, Kelo would have brought people into the streets demanding the heads of the fools in black.
40 posted on 06/19/2008 6:41:55 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

“1 in 10 would actively resist and be burned to death or gunned down in their homes with their families.”

The feds would take such casualties in the first week that by the second week they would be paralyzed with fear.

“Shoot the brave ones first; the rest will run away.” Stonewall Jackson


41 posted on 06/19/2008 7:13:40 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

Stonewall Jackson was a wise man.

JoMa


42 posted on 06/19/2008 7:31:46 PM PDT by joma89
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To: PLMerite
The feds would take such casualties in the first week that by the second week they would be paralyzed with fear.

I don't see it. We have the Constitution, they have APCs and Tanks.

Don't think for a minute they would hesitate to turn any of us all into charcoal briquettes if we didn't roll over. The Branch Davidians may have been nuts, but they were also an object lesson.
43 posted on 06/19/2008 9:52:26 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

“I don’t see it. We have the Constitution, they have APCs and Tanks.”

Like someone said to me, “they gotta get out of the tank to take a dump eventually.”

Check out “David’s Tool Kit” by Ragnar Benson.

http://www.amazon.com/Davids-Tool-Kit-Citizens-Brothers/dp/155950143X


44 posted on 06/19/2008 10:48:05 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: sergeantdave; snoringbear; Dr.Zoidberg; All

“federal fascists will resort to chemical and biological weapons in “problem” areas”

Actions like these, I suspect, might even get the Leftists off their butts. I don’t see people, at least most of the ones I know, cowering in their homes when their fellow citizens are being slaughtered.

I could be wrong and my be the first fool standing/dying but, if there’s an ounce of dignity and spirit left in the souls of men, we will rise up for our liberty.


45 posted on 06/20/2008 4:17:20 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
“The Branch Davidians may have been nuts, but they were also an object lesson.”

The Davidians got their licks in initially. Most of us don't have a compound to retreat to so, we would need to go on the offensive in large numbers.

IMO, they don't pay LEO, NG or regular military enough to kill fellow citizen on a large scale, nuts or not.

46 posted on 06/20/2008 4:31:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
“Actions like these, I suspect, might even get the Leftists off their butts. I don’t see people, at least most of the ones I know, cowering in their homes when their fellow citizens are being slaughtered.”

The scenario you painted, if it should ever come to that, would be much further out in the gun confiscation progression. My hunch is that it would never come to that. It's my guess that most folks would quietly hand over their guns to the authorities. Look at the Ruby Ridge and Branch Dividan massacres. Did large numbers of people go to their aid? Answer is nope. In fact, military and law enforcement personnel on the scene of each went about their business as ordered even though it is widely assumed that these folks are very conservative politically and for the most part pro-gun. I think the “frog in the pot of water” metaphor would more than likely apply to the outcome. You know, gradually turn up the heat and the frog will sit quietly in the pot of water until his butt is cooked...

47 posted on 06/20/2008 6:01:31 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: stuartcr
I can’t imagine any US LEO or military unit that would enforce this

military, mostly no...but leo ???

WACO comes to mind...

48 posted on 06/20/2008 6:07:20 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

I don’t think that’s quite the same as enforcing the confiscation of all our weapons.


49 posted on 06/20/2008 6:11:38 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: driftdiver

Look up the laws for each state at the NRA website, you will find the most current laws available for your perusal.


50 posted on 06/20/2008 6:17:39 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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