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Canadian Court overturns father's grounding of 12-year-old
OTTAWA (AFP) ^

Posted on 06/19/2008 12:57:00 PM PDT by Scythian

OTTAWA (AFP) - A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl's grounding, overturning her father's punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: judiciary; quebec

1 posted on 06/19/2008 12:57:02 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

There is so much wrong with this I can’t even begin ...


2 posted on 06/19/2008 12:58:11 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

So long, Canada. It was nice while it lasted. In you the USA can see a mirror image of its future self....


3 posted on 06/19/2008 12:59:57 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Scythian

Is this Scrappleface ?


4 posted on 06/19/2008 1:00:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Scythian

Good God Almighty,,,,,,parenting has been taken away, BIG BROTHER will now tell you how to raise your kids......good Lord.........just when you thought it could not get any worse, another day dawns...and...it does.


5 posted on 06/19/2008 1:00:23 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR INFIDEL STEPHENJOHNBANKER)
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To: Scythian
You can get arrested for corporal punishment in America.

Just ask most any kid: he/she will tell you all about their “rights”.

6 posted on 06/19/2008 1:01:01 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Scythian

It's a custody dispute.

7 posted on 06/19/2008 1:01:21 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Scythian
Briefly commented upon here.
8 posted on 06/19/2008 1:02:22 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Scythian

Reading deeper into the article, this is in the context of a custody battle between the parents. That doesn’t make it right, but the child didn’t just randomly sue the father over her grounding.


9 posted on 06/19/2008 1:02:38 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Scythian
I suppose he can't just tell her not to come "home" after she's done with the school trip. What's the old paternal preamble? "As long as your feet are under MY table, (specific conditions follow)!"

Guess that's illegal in Canada. Or at least in "Family" court.

10 posted on 06/19/2008 1:04:37 PM PDT by thulldud (Congress does not want answers. They want scapegoats. (andy58-in-nh))
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To: Scythian

Unfortunately there may be more to this story than first appears. The parents have been fighting over custody of the girl for a decade and that has to have some ramifications. Possibly the dad violated some court order along the way in imposing the discipline. I personally think the girls deserves grounding and more but chances are the treatment of this child is grounded in byzantine court orders over that decade of fighting and that, alone, gave her standing to challenge the discipline, especially where a leftover attorney was used. I will get more outraged if an intact family has its discipline overturned by a child’s suit.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 1:06:15 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: kms61
The fact that it's a custody battle just makes the court look WORSE.

Any judge with a grain of sense knows that you don't let yourself get used like this by warring parents.

12 posted on 06/19/2008 1:06:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Scythian

A 12yo going to the supreme court over grounding? I think there’s a lot more to this than is published.


13 posted on 06/19/2008 1:06:47 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Scythian

As a parent, I’d pack her suitcase without the computer, give her the name of the nearest shelter, and show her the door or at the very least, haul her little a** in front of the judge after this ruling and tell him she’s his problem now.


14 posted on 06/19/2008 1:07:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: kms61
It had zero to do with a custody suit. This is the only comment in the article about that:

Beaudoin noted the girl used a court-appointed lawyer in her parents' 10-year custody dispute to launch her landmark case against dear old dad.

A dangerous precedent has been set, and don't think for a second it will not now happen here.
15 posted on 06/19/2008 1:08:10 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: kms61

>> ... the girl used a court-appointed lawyer in her parents’ 10-year custody dispute to launch her landmark case ...

[Read: the mother used a taxpayer-financed lawyer.] I was in a running custody battle with my ex for 8 years. Free advise: give it up. My son is now a 37 year old genius-level software engineer crack bum with no job, still living with mommy.


16 posted on 06/19/2008 1:09:12 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Scythian

dollars to donuts the mother put her up to it.


17 posted on 06/19/2008 1:09:25 PM PDT by kms61
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To: lilylangtree

I agree, she wants the court to be her authority, they can raise her, goodbye.


18 posted on 06/19/2008 1:09:55 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

What on earth is the matter with Canada?


19 posted on 06/19/2008 1:12:22 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: Scythian

Just when you thought the Canadians could not get any nuttier...

But to be fair, it’s not so much the “Canadians” as it is the Canadian COURTS. We have our nutty judges, too, though this is one that tops even the most nutty American judge I’ve heard of.


20 posted on 06/19/2008 1:12:30 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: lilylangtree

My first thought was what a great comment that was, and I linked to it over at my blog.

But my second thought was that this was Canada; so the fool judge would probably say, “Great!”, and give her over to happy couple Jacques and Jean-Claude to raise.

/c:


21 posted on 06/19/2008 1:14:20 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Scythian

Dennis Prager was talking about this earlier.

If I had a kid who took me to court over something like this, I would kick their sorry ass out of my house and disown them.


22 posted on 06/19/2008 1:16:19 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Scythian

Canada is just so screwed up now it’s not even funny any longer.


23 posted on 06/19/2008 1:16:40 PM PDT by Baron OBeef Dip
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To: Scythian

It’s now an international law precedent that SCOTUS idiot Kennedy will make reference to sometime in the future.


24 posted on 06/19/2008 1:17:30 PM PDT by wiley
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To: Scythian

that canadian court decision is so tragic. Liberalism is a chosen twisted state of mind.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 1:26:23 PM PDT by metallatem (CANADA COURT SUCKS!)
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To: Scythian
I didn't know a judge could second-guess how a family raised their children. Now I guess we have the Judge Knows Best syndrome in family court.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

26 posted on 06/19/2008 1:31:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sans-Culotte
In you the USA can see a mirror image of its future self....

Got that right - the states consider children as "THEIR" asset and the parents only as 'caretakers' =

i.e., parents are to feed and cloth = the gov't will determine all else.

27 posted on 06/19/2008 1:31:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: caseinpoint
I will get more outraged if an intact family has its discipline overturned by a child’s suit.

If this isn't overturned, it becomes precedent - then ANY family, "intact" or not, is subject to it....

28 posted on 06/19/2008 1:34:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7

Depends on how it arose in the first place: is this a challenge to parental discipline or a challenge to a previous child custody court order? It makes a difference.


29 posted on 06/19/2008 1:40:40 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Scythian

Good thing in this country, kids only have the *rights* their parents give them.


30 posted on 06/19/2008 1:58:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Scythian

This is a joke right?


31 posted on 06/19/2008 2:22:00 PM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: Scythian

It would seem that by overruling her parent’s prerogative, the Canadian court has assumed all future responsibility for any of this young woman’s possible future misdemeanors or felonies.


32 posted on 06/19/2008 2:39:21 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Scythian

Why would a court even consider taking a case like this? Pretty soon there won’t be anything the government isn’t involved in. What I do with my children is none of their business as long as I’m not harming them or breaking the law.


33 posted on 06/19/2008 2:41:48 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: Scythian

there are limits to expectations of levels of child care though. if she wants to play hardball there is always:

* walmart brand clothing only
* no bedroom door
* rides to school w dad in a bathrobe ( or golf shorts )
* bland dull but healthy food
* no allowance
* no friends over

etc. right ?
not like he has to just cave.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 4:34:48 PM PDT by stompk
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To: Scythian
Canada is slowly committing suicide, and if we don't wake up soon (as in by November), we'll keep sliding down that path too.
35 posted on 06/19/2008 5:40:18 PM PDT by DesScorp
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