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Kerry: McCain Is The Real Flip-Flopper
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Posted on 06/19/2008 2:14:52 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Kerry: McCain Is The Real Flip-Flopper

June 19, 2008 5:07 PM

ABC News' Teddy Davis and John Santucci Report: Maligned as a "flip-flopper" during his 2004 presidential run, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, D, argued Thursday that Arizona Sen. John McCain, R, is the one who truly deserves the "flip-flop" label.

"There was one issue on which the entire Republican campaign based itself last time about a flip flop which was that I voted for something before I voted against it in an amendment on the floor of the Senate. It was a vote of principle. It was not a change of position," said Kerry. "Our fault was in not explaining it adequately."

Kerry went on to contrast himself with McCain, whom he approached in 2004 about crossing party lines to be his running mate. Kerry argued that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has flip-flopped on a series of substantive issues.

"In the case of John McCain," said Kerry, "he has changed now on torture, which is a fundamental value. He has changed on taxes which he once called dangerous, and now he is in favor of the permanent Bush tax cut which he once voted against. A complete change of position on the actual substance."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; flipflops; kerry; kerrymccain; mccain
Mister nuance.......
1 posted on 06/19/2008 2:14:53 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

HuH! Coming from Mr “I Voted for it Before I Voted Against It”. What a waste of platelets this haughty idiot is ...


2 posted on 06/19/2008 2:17:43 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: Sub-Driver

alosersayswhatkerry?


3 posted on 06/19/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by sappy
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To: Sub-Driver

Shut up, Lurch.


4 posted on 06/19/2008 2:19:09 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like he flipped in the right direction on every issue.


5 posted on 06/19/2008 2:19:10 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Sub-Driver

“There was one issue on which the entire Republican campaign based itself last time about a flip flop which was that I voted for something before I voted against it in an amendment on the floor of the Senate. It was a vote of principle. It was not a change of position,” said Kerry. “Our fault was in not explaining it adequately.”

Boo freaking hoo, ya big baby. W beat your French looking ass.

We need McCainiac to change a few more positions.


6 posted on 06/19/2008 2:19:18 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Sen. Waffle:

Whatever. The one fact that hasn’t changed is that he’s still the man who was tortured in a prison run by the enemy you collaborated with.


7 posted on 06/19/2008 2:19:20 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nonsense, the RINO relic is NOT a flip flopper. Flip floppers like Kerry get defensive. The RINO relic is FLUID, VERY FLUID, and he never stays on any position long enough to take the defensive, let alone “flop” there.


8 posted on 06/19/2008 2:20:44 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Sub-Driver

Dude can’t get over it can he! Too funny!


9 posted on 06/19/2008 2:20:53 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Sub-Driver

Let this unlikeable moron keep flapping his gums for Obama. It’s the best thing he can do for McCain.


10 posted on 06/19/2008 2:22:07 PM PDT by smedley64
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To: Brett66

Brett66: “Sounds like he flipped in the right direction on every issue.”

Flip-flopping isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Granted, I’d prefer a consistent conservative over a recently flip-flopped one, but changing your opinion when you realize you’re wrong? That’s a good thing.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 2:23:44 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Republican Who Will NOT Vote McCain!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Boy, you’d think with a billion dollars at your disposal you could learn to let go, move on and get a life. But Frenchy’s still re-parsing his last election loss. Forget it, Kerry. Believe me, the rest of us have.


12 posted on 06/19/2008 2:24:46 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: Miss Didi

13 posted on 06/19/2008 2:25:55 PM PDT by camerakid400 (Oy Gevalt)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m glad the guy flipped to the correct side of the issue. :)

McCain ought to proudly say “Damn right I flipped! I was wrong, and now I’m right!” BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


14 posted on 06/19/2008 2:27:06 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Flip flopping is a common flaw among ultra liberals like McCain and Kerry...


15 posted on 06/19/2008 2:28:49 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Biblebelter
Nonsense, the RINO relic is NOT a flip flopper.

He is just demonstrating rigid flexibility.

16 posted on 06/19/2008 2:31:52 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No, McCain should say that when he voted against drilling, oil was thirty dollars a barrel, when facts change I change my mind. (It just took McCain a while to realize the change in circumstances.)


17 posted on 06/19/2008 2:34:18 PM PDT by Eva (ue)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow. Kerry thinks he is relevant.


18 posted on 06/19/2008 2:36:00 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: Sub-Driver
>Kerry went on to contrast himself with McCain, whom he approached in 2004 about crossing party lines to be his running mate.

Now Kerry has flip-flopped against his preferred running mate.

What's next?

19 posted on 06/19/2008 2:37:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The Lord.)
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To: Miss Didi

“Shut up, Lurch.”

Giga dittos!


20 posted on 06/19/2008 2:38:21 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Right Cal Gal
Dear Sen. Waffle: Whatever. The one fact that hasn’t changed is that he’s still the man who was tortured in a prison run by the enemy you collaborated with.

Truer words were never spoken.

I don't even like McCain, but what you said was excellent.

21 posted on 06/19/2008 2:38:33 PM PDT by exit82 (tagline temporarily out of order--awaiting parts.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
Dear Sen. Waffle:

Whatever. The one fact that hasn’t changed is that he’s still the man who was tortured in a prison run by the enemy you collaborated with.

Bumped and augmented!

22 posted on 06/19/2008 2:39:22 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: Christian4Bush

Lurch is an old scab.


23 posted on 06/19/2008 2:42:16 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Sub-Driver

24 posted on 06/19/2008 2:47:47 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: Sub-Driver

It means so much coming from Mr. Butt Monkey the flap jack queen.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 2:50:57 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (Todays politicians, living proof why we have and need a second amendment to the constitution.)
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To: Miss Didi

That’s EXACTLY what I was going to post!!!!

-Great Minds....right?


26 posted on 06/19/2008 2:56:14 PM PDT by highnoon (Global warming is real.....Santa Claus told me so.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Kerry: McCain Is The Real Flip-Flopper”

He might be, but YOU are a traitor.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 3:01:44 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now, or face the hangman.)
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To: Sub-Driver

OK admit it...isnt it fun to watch McCain’s RAT buddies turn on him?


28 posted on 06/19/2008 3:05:21 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Sub-Driver

Kerry cannot stand not being in the public eye; no matter what it takes. His greed for a microphone; a camera; is incredible.


29 posted on 06/19/2008 3:05:55 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Sub-Driver

McCain and Kerry. Flip and Flop. lol


30 posted on 06/19/2008 3:06:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
Whatever. The one fact that hasn’t changed is that he’s still the man who was tortured in a prison run by the enemy you collaborated with.

A worthy reminder. . .

31 posted on 06/19/2008 3:07:12 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Sub-Driver

Is that why Kerry invited McCain on the 2004 ticket?


32 posted on 06/19/2008 3:08:34 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Sub-Driver

A person should be allowed to change his mind as he lives and learns, otherwise we would be stuck with whatever we thought when we were three.


33 posted on 06/19/2008 3:10:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Natchez Hawk

Kerry was for McCain before he was against him.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 3:11:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Kerry: McCain Is The Real Flip-Flopper"

Taking the above to its logical conclusion then it would mean Kerry is the "FAKE Flip-Flopper"...

Makes sense to me, I always considered John "Heinz" Kerry to be about as fake as a human can get.

35 posted on 06/19/2008 3:11:20 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Right Cal Gal
Will someone please hit this silly bastard in the head and shut him up, Lurch...you are embarrassing yourself again.
36 posted on 06/19/2008 3:15:30 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: highnoon
That’s EXACTLY what I was going to post!!!!

That's the first thing that comes to mind whenever the haughty one speaks. ;)
37 posted on 06/19/2008 3:25:05 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Sub-Driver

What is so predicktable about Jon Cary is that he is loyal to no one. He isn’t loyal to his wife, his friends, or his country.

What a POS.


38 posted on 06/19/2008 3:28:10 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama has been accused of “gaffes” in disclosing his far left views in nearly every extemporaneous discussion with the media.
However, I suspect he is trying to avoid the flip-flop label by being consistent. It is the anti-kerry strategy.
Kerry figured he could fool everyone. BHO knows better.
What emerges is a more honest, accurate image of the candidate. In this case, the image is that of an unapologetic, radical socialist and racist.


39 posted on 06/19/2008 3:28:22 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Sub-Driver
“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” - John Maynard Keynes
40 posted on 06/19/2008 3:46:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: Sub-Driver

And he’s the real Vietnam vet, too.


41 posted on 06/19/2008 3:47:28 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Sub-Driver

McCain should expain his reversal on drilling by noting that gas prices have increased tremondously since 2000, that our need to be independent from the Middle East’s oil has increased. Then say: “When the facts change, I am willing to change my positions. What do you do?”


42 posted on 06/20/2008 7:28:34 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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