Posted on 06/19/2008 7:16:09 PM PDT by ckilmer
Edited on 06/19/2008 8:02:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
AP Material cannot be psted to FR.
The legislation has passed the U.S. House and is pending in the Senate. ///////////// if this passes then soon the hawaiians will be talking reparations and the mexican atzlans will be talking about breaking off the US southwest from the rest of the country all nice and legal like because they will have a precdent in hawaii.
Are there any casinos in Hawaii?
As far as Aztlan goes, all the folks pushing that also subscribe to Lowrider. It's all in English.
These guys are simply into BS. Besides, even if we gave them land we keep the water and they die of thirst.
*snicker*
Eeek! She doesn’t even have a sweet smile, like Liliuokalani. Hawaii deserves better than a Polynesian Hillary Clinton.
Big Kahuna Kasino - our slots are the loosest in town!
A monarchy is not "a Republican Form of Government." However, as William Rawle noted:
The principle of representation, although certainly the wisest and best, is not essential to the being of a republic, but to continue a member of the Union, it must be preserved, and therefore the guarantee must be so construed. It depends on the state itself to retain or abolish the principle of representation, because it depends on itself whether it will continue a member of the Union. To deny this right would be inconsistent with the principle on which all our political systems are founded, which is, that the people have in all cases, a right to determine how they will be governed.
William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America, 1829
[ http://www.constitution.org/wr/rawle_32.htm ]
If the Hawaiians adopt a monarchy, they will no longer be able to "continue a member of the Union"...
Must I be the One to say it?
.............................Book’em Dano.
GUILTY !
Being ignorant, may I ask why?
No loss, less BS to deal with.
Click the link, read the thread. AP extortion.
Show me the MONEY!!! The Hawaiians want their own kingdom, tax free status, right to sue the US ad infinitum, keep the welfare checks coming and all at the US taxpayer expense. A Dimocrap President and Congress will guarantee that.
AP wants to charge per word for linking to their stories...
If you click on the link in my post above you can read all about it. There are also some threads about this in Breaking News.
Question: what if the local newspaper reprints the AP article, can the article still be reprinted without repercussion using the local newspaper’s reference?
how do you go about accessing the same info that the AP puts out.
when I searched on google that story only came through the AP.
Is the trick just to link to the AP and write a story based on their reporting?
No articles originating from Associated Press are welcome here. Thanks.
Don’t know.
I demand reinstatement of The Confederate States of America.
Just what Hawaiians need. To be another group of “victims”.
I just happen to know of a nationally prominent, multi-cultural politician who is a native born Hawaiian (around 1961, I believe) and would be *perfect* for the job of king on a far away island.
(He’s a Democrat, too!)
Time to brush up on our book report skills, people. Make a nice summary and whatever you do, don’t click on the link.
What a complete crock. She can’t be a descendant of “Hawaii’s last king”, because the last King, David Kalakaua, had no surviving children. Which is why the throne passed to his sister.
To the extent there still remains a royal line, it cannot trace descent to any of the Kamehamehas, or to Kalakaua. Their heirship was willed to Kalakaua’s nephew by marriage, Prince Jonah Kalalaniole, who, in a twist of fate, was elected to Congress (as a Republican) when Hawaii was still a territory.
Even if you think a monarchy is the solution, there is no royal line left to restore.
Bye Bye to two Democratic senators and a Demo congressman.
Perhaps Hawaii and Puerto Rico can merge politically.
Book ‘em, Danno!
If the monarchy bans “Hang Lose” t-shirts, bumper stickers and mugs I’m all for it you howlies. -Wb
Ok, We'll throw in a KING for you. I believe since he lived there he would ACCEPT the job. I would like to PRESENT KING BARAK the First. Unfortunatly, I could not find the Hawai'ian translation of Barak.
Oh yes, you can have all of the islands except Hawaii, we still want Kona Coffee to be AMERICA's.
Think they'd like King Barak the First?
They have one island where white people are not allowed to go unless personally invited. Right?
I lived on the Big Island for about 6 years. Very beautiful! But if you’re white, you kind of feel like an outsider.
The Hawaiian people would probably like to have the entire chain back . . . but they need our money through tourism.
Particularly one born in Hawaii.
Can my family and I have self-government on our property? No?
Also wasn’t their a war because the south wanted out? Yet this gang operates with impunity?
LOL!
As one poster pointed out, we are guaranteed a Republican form of government. A monarchy is a totally different animal. Try reading the treatise The Spirit of the Laws by Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu.
There is another flaw in the 'precedent' you speak of-
Hawaii voluntarily became a State, while the southwest was fought for. See the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, February 2, 1848.
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I'm all for the Hawaiians being equal to the American Indians in tribal & political status, but restoring the monarchy ain't gonna happen.
LOL...this sounds a bit French Canadian...lets us be separate but still have access to all the tax revenues/federal govt assistance. :D
That’s “Haole” howlie boy d;^)
Yes, especially one raised by his white grandparents and attended the most expensive private school in Hawaii.
I'm not sure that unilateral State secession is legal under the current constitution...
You're not one of those genuine Hawaiian guys who yells "SMOKE?!?!" when I drive by in my rental car, are you?
;>)
I’m all for the Hawaiians being equal to the American Indians in tribal & political status, but restoring the monarchy ain’t gonna happen.
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Its not about political status. Its about expropriation of assets. That is the Hawaiians want to be more than equal. And as such they want to be given the right to expropriate property of non native hawaiians.
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