Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Was the Holocaust Inevitable? ( Patrick J. Buchanan )
townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 401-445 next last
To: kellynla

I try to like Pat but he just makes it so damn hard.

He’s right about a lot of things but when he misses, he really misses.

The Holocaust is a losing issue for him. He doesn’t know near as much as he thinks he knows so he should just keep his damn mouth shut on this issue. I think this one issue has ruined him, politically.


51 posted on 06/20/2008 8:37:40 AM PDT by boycott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
I am a staunch conservative, but the fact that this Nazi sympathiser had ANY position in ANY Republican administration and managed to win a few primaries gives me pause about some of my fellow conservative travelers.

At some point the remaining John Birchers will die off, and Pat will be out of business. But I agree, he's a useful idiot for the left. I almost think he does it on purpose, out of spite for being rejected.

52 posted on 06/20/2008 8:38:03 AM PDT by Huck (The Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than Karl Marx wannabe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy

Take those two sentences and dissect them.

I agree that the extermination of Jews and others was not a cause of the war.

And in some cases, it was a consequence of the war in occupied lands....maybe....France, Italy, the Balkans , the USSR admittedly...over a million Jews I think etc.

But most of the victims came from Poland and Germany-Austria which would have happened even without a “World War”....neither a cause or consequence of the broader war but would have happened anyway after the Poland invasion.

So Pay is only partly right and in whole wrong.

For someone who is on occasion quite astute, he is very wrong on some key matters.

Why on earth does Pat think France and England should have just sat on their hands after Poland was invaded?

Where Hitler really screwed up was declaring war on the US and breaking his peace with Russia too early.

Pat takes too much liberty with the fact that most Jews and others were killed after 1940.


53 posted on 06/20/2008 8:38:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (if I could slap Obama will he fight back like a black man or bitch up like a metero white boy?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: vladimir998

Pat has no staying power. That’s why he is always trying to re-invent himself. He’s a whiner.


54 posted on 06/20/2008 8:38:42 AM PDT by RC2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy

He said it again on the Howie Carr Show. He is nuts. He blamed Poland for the war as well. All Hitler wanted was Danzig he said.


55 posted on 06/20/2008 8:39:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Borges

10 years WFB and National Review read Pat Buchanan out of mainstream conservatism due to his nascent anti-semitism.


56 posted on 06/20/2008 8:40:43 AM PDT by AU72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
Yes, Pat's new book "stinks." But then, so does Pat's whole career, now that he's gone off the deep end into the tar pits. How sad. The man had a modicum of talent, once upon a time. Now, like many politicians of whatever stripe, he has fallen in love with the sound of his own words.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Barack (Rorschach) Obama"

57 posted on 06/20/2008 8:40:53 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I wonder if it is too late for Pat to file papers to run for the Presidency in Iran?

It seems he would be a shoe in.


58 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:47 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
Heard a little bit of Pat on a Boston talk show the other day.It sounded like he was blaming Chamberlain *and* Churchill for WWII.What a putz he is!
59 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: saganite
Hitler knew the history of Napolean in Russia and accordingly planned his invasion for an earlier kickoff but got bogged down trying to bail out his hopeles Italian ally. He probably convinced himself that with a mechanized army the results would be different.

It's easy to get into Russia. It's hard to get out.

60 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:23 AM PDT by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
"Hitler was willing to let the Jews emigrate to Palestine" Yes, where he had already established muslim Nazi SS units to attack and exterminate them, thus taking the blame off the Germans by having the muslims do the work.
61 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:26 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet?

Apparently Buchanan has never heard of Plan Z: the Nazi plan to build a great fleet in order to neutralize the British advantage.

Hitler began constructing an aircraft carrier in 1935.

Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered?

Part of Hitler's propaganda was that France would remain an independent republic following the surrender and retain possession of all its military resources - this was to give the Vichy regime the appearance of governing a France that was a willing ally of Nazi Germany.

Regardless of what the formal terms of the treaty dictated, the Vichy regime was a Nazi puppet state and its army and navy were Nazi property as a practical matter.

It didn't much matter, since the UK Royal Navy destroyed France's North Atlantic vessels or incorporated them into the Free French Navy, and the Vichy Navy was bottled up in the Mediterranean at Toulon or at Dakar in Senegal by the Royal Navy as well.

And, in 1940, the Marine Nationale was no larger than the Italian Navy anyway.

In order to swallow Buchanan's analysis, you need to believe that Vichy France was a free and independent state that was an equal partner in a voluntary alliance with Nazi Germany.

62 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:30 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KingSnorky

And just think: Patsy is the go-to conservative for MSNBC.


63 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:43 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Britain losing her empire was inevitable, I think most people realize that. Considering that the same thing happened to every European power, placing blame on Churchill is disingenious.


64 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:16 AM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Huck
He does it for cash and kudos. And is getting bolder, and more outrageous because he now has the MSM on his side, they pay him even more for his anti-jew, pro Saddam venting.

He is a whore.

65 posted on 06/20/2008 8:45:34 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Nothing more than a sad bid for attention. Mr. Buchanan has reached the point where the only way anyone will print his name is for him to trot out his odd notions about history and foreign policy. And so he keeps doing it.


66 posted on 06/20/2008 8:45:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (When they are all socialists, the term 'RINO' ceases to have any meaning. They are just Republicans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
This man has become such a jackass it's impossible to imagine how anyone can take him seriously, anymore.

It's too bad. At one time he was a clear thinker.

67 posted on 06/20/2008 8:46:11 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

Huh? So, no Inquisition, no Torquemada?


68 posted on 06/20/2008 8:47:17 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy
Tell me Pat didn't write that.

I think you don't get what he's saying. He is saying that the preconditions that empowered Hitler were engendered by the aftermath of WWI.

Remember that not long before Hitler became chancellor, the city of Berlin had been taken over by the Spartakusbund, a rabidly communist party comprising many Reform Jewish leaders, particularly Polish Jewess, Rosa Luxemburg. The Spartakusbund brought crushing strikes and depravity to Berlin, which was rapidly becoming the San Francisco of Germany. It was to be the first step in a nationwide communist takeover repeating a first attempt in 1848. These folks had the German middle class shaking in their boots. Not a few fell into Hitler's arms out of fear.

Toss in news of the Balfour Declaration as a cause of America's entry into WWI and Germany's resulting loss. That was easily portrayed as a betrayal in return for the historic accommodation the Germans had shown for the Jewish people, despite the fact that the agreement had been concluded by radical Sabbatean bankers who had nothing but antipathy for the Orthodox Jewish commoner.

History is more complicated than good guys v. bad guys. People need to understand that Judaism is by no means homogeneous, but deeply divided between Orthodox and the Sabbatean left, inventors of communism in the first place.

69 posted on 06/20/2008 8:48:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’m just finishing the Max Hasting book. It’s excellent.


70 posted on 06/20/2008 8:48:31 AM PDT by megatherium
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Borges

“He’s regularily published by conservative sites like Townhall and World Net Daily. Though the latter can’t really be called Conservative. I don’t know what the hell it is really.”

We need to write those groups and respectfully ask them to not give Pat Buchanon a platform to spread his poison.

I am against censorship, but private organizations have the right -— and responsibility — to keep not let nutbags like this spread nonsense.


71 posted on 06/20/2008 8:48:38 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: eclecticEel
placing blame on Churchill is disingenious.

Disingenuous is a very kind way of putting it.

72 posted on 06/20/2008 8:49:43 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Nachum
Wow Pat, by your logic WW I wasn’t necessary either.

Well, actually, before the bullets and shells started flying, it wasn't.

Germany cleaned France's clock in the Franco-Prussian War and the World went on, hardly noticing.

The traditional enemy of Britain was never Germany. It was France. In their hearts, the French still feel that way. Just ask one of them.

The Anglo-German rivalry began with the threat to British naval supremacy but that did not have to lead to war. Britain could have made room for a powerful ally on the waves that Britannia ruled rather than devastate Britain in a World War.

After World War One, a similar situation was developing between the U.S. and Britain. In the 1920's, most senior U.S. naval officers believed that the most likely future enemy of the U.S. Navy would be the Royal Navy.

73 posted on 06/20/2008 8:50:30 AM PDT by Polybius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy
Why on earth does Pat think France and England should have just sat on their hands after Poland was invaded?

Especially when that indicated a failure of Chamberlain's appeasement policies?

74 posted on 06/20/2008 8:50:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

I agree with all your comments. It’s a schtick. Although I think it is a schtick near and dear to his malignant heart. I never for an instant liked this guy. He’s a modern John Bircher.


75 posted on 06/20/2008 8:50:49 AM PDT by Huck (The Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than Karl Marx wannabe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan

I tend to agree with you. Pat is primarily a hater. Unfortunately, his position on Illegal immigration which I concur with is based on hate. My position is not based on hatred of any racial group. Any racial group who gets here legally and not by illegal invasion, I welcome. The illegal invasion of this nation has become an unwelcome issue on the MSM except for Lou Dobbs. So Pat is not welcome to rant, vent, and hate against illegals. In the era of Barry, the networks not only tolerate more anti-Semtism, they will give it a voice with Buchanan who is more than happy to fall back and scapegoat the Jew who has always been the convenient scapegoat.


76 posted on 06/20/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by Biblebelter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie

Not sure “Sabbetian” is the word you are looking for.

Sabbateans is a complex general term that refers to a variety of followers of, disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zevi (1626 - 1676), a Jewish rabbi who was proclaimed to be the Jewish Messiah in 1665 by Nathan of Gaza. Vast numbers of Jews in the Jewish diaspora accepted his claims, even after he became a Jewish apostate with his conversion to Islam in 1666. Sabbatai Zevi’s followers both during his “Messiahship” and after his conversion to Islam are known as Sabbateans


77 posted on 06/20/2008 8:52:02 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Borges

The late, liberal columnist Molly Ivins had the best line about a Buchanan speech: She thought it must have sounded better in the original German.


78 posted on 06/20/2008 8:53:16 AM PDT by megatherium
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
We need to write those groups and respectfully ask them to not give Pat Buchanon a platform to spread his poison.

This is actually a very good point. Maybe it is time to really try to purge him. I wonder what the response here on FR would be, both from the operators of this great site, as well as from the Freeper community. Is this is a justifiable cause for Freeper activism? I think so. But I wonder what the general reaction would be to an enthusiastic, unabashed call to freepers to expunge Pat Buchanan from conservatism. Thoughts?

79 posted on 06/20/2008 8:53:19 AM PDT by Huck (A Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than a Karl Marx wannabe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
God damn Pat Buchanan!

/Rev Wright rant

80 posted on 06/20/2008 8:53:44 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy
The historical lesson was there for Hitler.

Exactly. Operation Barbarossa kicked off almost 6 weeks late because Hitler refused to start the invasion while the British were mucking around in Greece. He wanted to remove that "thorn in his side" before going ahead with Barbarossa. Guderian and OKH told him not to worry about it.

The invasion still could have met its time-table, but halfway to Moscow, Army Group center was diverted south to the Ukrain. By the time Army Group Center was back on track and moving on Moscow, it was too late to take Moscow before winter set in.

Commenting on Hitler's interference with the plans for the invasion of Russia, Heinz Guderian said, "I could never have believed that a really brilliant military position could be so screwed up in two months."

In retrospect, perhaps the most important allied effort early in the war was the attempt to help Greece against the Nazi invasion. In purely military terms on the ground, it was a failure. But it delayed Operation Barbarossa for a critical period and may have been the action that won the war. A successful operation Barbarossa may well have knocked Russia out of the war as it was intended to do. At the very least, it would have extended the war for several more years.

81 posted on 06/20/2008 8:54:15 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie

Jews invented communism? The word communism was coined in 1840 by John Goodwyn Barmby in reference to followers of the French revolution era Grachus Babeuf. Marx himself was the son of converted Jews who was himself quite anti-semitic. And 1920s Berlin was one of the cultural capitals of Europe filled with great writers and musicians.


82 posted on 06/20/2008 8:55:41 AM PDT by Borges
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Sounds like PJB is blaming Churchill for the Holocaust. He is deranged.


83 posted on 06/20/2008 8:56:20 AM PDT by DFG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Huck; All

“But I wonder what the general reaction would be to an enthusiastic, unabashed call to freepers to expunge Pat Buchanan from conservatism. Thoughts?”

I don’t know; I am composing my emails now.

I ask others to join in.

Pat gives conservatives a bad name, and needs to go away. He does not represent conservatives and should not be used as our voice.

Can I get second? (Or a third, as I think Huck is my second.)


84 posted on 06/20/2008 8:59:57 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Borges

I have seen claims that World Net Daily is associated with alleged cult leader Roy Masters. I don’t know if that’s true, but WND has never impressed me.


85 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:09 AM PDT by megatherium
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

..................

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

That's true, the treatment of Jews wasn't a cause of the war, though in retrospect most American's consider the nature of the Nazi as clear evidence of the evil we were confronting. Discarding it's relevance one must accept several things. That the pre-war treatment of Jews under the Nuremburg laws was just fine. For Jews, no citizenship, removal from jobs, pensions, loss of property. Not much to criticize there Pat, and certainly no hint as to what was to come. The slaughter of political dissidents, that's fine. So much for criticism of Stalin on that score. Can't criticize the gulags if you accept the Nazi camp system. Homosexuals, the retarded, heck, they should die.

Of course underlying Pat's worldview is the fact that Europe, East and West, under the Reich for a millenia would be preferable to a free Western Europe, the East under the Communist heel for 4 decades.

86 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:20 AM PDT by SJackson (There are 2 races of people in this world, the decent and the indecent,Victor Frankl, George Foreman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan; dirtboy
Shabbetai's heirs invented communism as a way to destroy the West. They were the origins of the international banking cabal we face today.

There is a whole book on the topic, To Eliminate the Opiate, by Orthodox Jewish Rabbi and Chief Justice of the Supreme Rabbinical Court of the United States, Marvin S Antelman. I suggest you read it.

87 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: agere_contra
Because the Royal Navy sank it in harbour. Seriously, does Pat not know this?

Right. It was in the Med. The Brits controlled the Med.

88 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:51 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I someone had shot the Kaiser before WWI, Hitler and Stalin may have been irrelevant.


89 posted on 06/20/2008 9:01:50 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Borges
Jews invented communism? The word communism was coined in 1840 by John Goodwyn Barmby in reference to followers of the French revolution era Grachus Babeuf. Marx himself was the son of converted Jews who was himself quite anti-semitic.

Marx was instructed in communism by Reform Rabbi Moses Hess. See post 87.

90 posted on 06/20/2008 9:02:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie
Shabbetai's heirs invented communism as a way to destroy the West. They were the origins of the international banking cabal we face today.

Jewish banking conspiracies?
91 posted on 06/20/2008 9:03:07 AM PDT by Borges
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: DesScorp

Woodrow Wilson put two words out and the Nationalists believed him. Those two words are dogging us to this day: self determination.


92 posted on 06/20/2008 9:03:09 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I’ve read Mein Kampf.

He didn’t want to rule the world, he just wanted to rule Europe, and wanted to arrange for Japan to rule Asia and the USA to rule the western hemisphere. England, being isolated by water (he was a hydrophobe), was to be left alone as a self-governing fluke.

He laid out his plans. Yes, the Holocaust was intended. No, he did not want to take over the world, just the whole of Europe.


93 posted on 06/20/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Borges
Jewish banking conspiracies?

Although the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a proven fraud, the answer is yes. See post 87.

94 posted on 06/20/2008 9:04:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: montag813
The Jews were treated wonderfully right up untuil September 1, 1939, right Pat?

They were treated in a way Pat would consider appropriate for a sovereign power. Strip them of citizenship, employment, and property. Nothing wrong with that is there? As I heard him comment on a radio show, it's bad, the Arabs did it too and no one complained.

95 posted on 06/20/2008 9:04:28 AM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan

I just posted a vanity on the subject. Maybe we can at least get a freeper discussion going on it and see what happens.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2033917/posts

Hopefully it doesn’t become a flame war/dustup.


96 posted on 06/20/2008 9:05:00 AM PDT by Huck (A Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than a Karl Marx wannabe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

If Adolph had passed his college painting class, he would have been a forgotten artist.


97 posted on 06/20/2008 9:05:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Buchanan is a very warped fellow.


98 posted on 06/20/2008 9:05:44 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie
History is more complicated than good guys v. bad guys. People need to understand that Judaism is by no means homogeneous, but deeply divided between Orthodox and the Sabbatean left, inventors of communism in the first place.

Good points. I never understood the Jewish alignment with communism during the 30’s.
99 posted on 06/20/2008 9:06:10 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie
The Spartakusbund brought crushing strikes and depravity to Berlin, which was rapidly becoming the San Francisco of Germany.

Yeah. Living an hour's drive from the REAL San Francisco, makes me want to overthrow the US government, take over the whole world, and kill all the Jooooooooooos.

Crystal(nacht) clear reasoning there, Carrie

100 posted on 06/20/2008 9:06:21 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 401-445 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson