Posted on 06/21/2008 8:35:36 PM PDT by forkinsocket
No country is wholly free of anti-immigrant prejudice, whether it is the United States, where illegal immigration was a hot-button issue in the Republican primaries, or post-apartheid South Africa, where economic migrants were recently burned to death. But in many Western European countries today, something new and insidious seems to be happening. The familiar old arguments against immigrants — that they are criminals, that their culture makes them a bad fit, that they take jobs from natives — are mutating into an anti-Islamic bias that is becoming institutionalized in the continent’s otherwise ordinary politics.
Examples abound. The Swiss People’s Party sponsors ads in which three white sheep push one black sheep off the Swiss flag — and wins 29 percent of the vote. In Belgium, the Vlaams Belang deploys a clever variation, publicly praising Jews and seeking their support against Muslims, whom it tellingly describes as “the main enemy of the moment.” Meanwhile, the Dutch politician Geert Wilders calls Islam “the ideology of a retarded culture.”
Even Britain, which has afforded Muslims a more welcoming environment, has had some worrying moments. A few years back, a Labor M.P. called for an end to “the tradition of first-cousin marriages” among Pakistanis and other South Asians in Britain. The basis for her suggestion was the claim that Pakistanis in Britain were more likely than the general population to suffer from recessive autosomal genetic disorders. Of course, so are Ashkenazi Jews, but you can hardly imagine an M.P. proposing to limit Jews’ marriage choices for this reason, especially given the historic Nazi allegation of Jewish genetic inferiority.
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I just threw up on my keyboard.
Or the whining, tear streaked faces as a bomb or jet plants itself into their building and all they will do is "blame Bush"... when asked, the muzzies will say that all are infidels and either submit to Allah or die.
Because Europe has experienced terrorism in the past it should be more tolerant of radical Islamic terrorism?
Is that what he said?
Just so long as they're not rednecks.
Did I read that right?
The American Indian can tell you why anti-immigration attitudes are a good idea.
“Even Britain, which has afforded Muslims a more welcoming environment, has had some worrying moments”...Britain will have more...here is a 2 or 3 year old CIA report on the ‘religion’ of peace experience as a percentage of population...The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:
The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source
CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their
colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against
the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’. Also, remember in “Highlander”...in the end there can be only ONE!
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Knowing that Obama has many Islamic connections from the past, and has the whole Islamic world focussed on his campaign currently, if he wins the Presidency, all Islamic issues will be constantly at the forefront and in unprecedented force and quantity upon his office, family, as well as the US and the whole Western World. The mere ability of Islam to exploit such a candidate and possible future president during the largest jihad in world history is a situation that should be expanded and explored. Qahdafi of Libya is already recognizing Obama as a Muslim under Sharia law via his recent Al-Jazeera interview. That the Dems offer him for the office of the Presidency is the most hostile and politically dangerous move by any political party in our history. Not since Alger Hiss was proposed for the Cabinet of the US has such a candidate been offered, with the exception perhaps of Mr. Clinton, who brought such disgrace to the office.
“The American Indian can tell you why anti-immigration attitudes are a good idea.”
And why a strong military is an even better idea.
This idiot reporter should research how easy it is for a foreigner to get a job in another country, to own property in another country or to get official recognition in another country. Immigrants are able to do all those things in the U.S. Foreigners in most other countries have very, very few options to do any of those.
Excellent. Ping for reference.
Exactly. The hypocrisy is palpable. Conservative Christians are always depicted as "forces of intolerance" by publications like the Times. Yet far more "intolerant" traits in Muslims are quaint, charming, and in any case their indigenous customs and beliefs are inviolate.
Excellent post...Seems like the 2.7% figure for the UK is quite low, somewhere i read recently that it is nearer 50%..Sure hope 2.7% is the correct figure..
He makes incredible assumptions regarding the “feelings” of Europeans toward Muslim immigrants. He makes no real allowance of a factual basis for European distrust/dislike of Muslim immigrants—namely Islamic terrorism (a reason Nazis’ never had to dislike Jews). It is absolutely no surprise that he teaches law at Harvard. What an elitist oaf!
“Nevertheless, a hallmark of liberal, secular societies is supposed to be respect for different cultures, including traditional, religious cultures — even intolerant ones.”
Yes, even intolerant ones that threaten the very lives of the people in your “liberal, secular society”.
You can’t make this crap up. The writer is a moron.
WOW, those are some amazing, and revealing, statistics. It sure makes the case for limiting Muslim immigration, doesn’t it?
Hey Butthead, can we deport Obama.
Yep Bevis, I think he is welcome in state 57.
Reading this, fear strikes my heart at the enemy within that so distorts the intellectual vision of the observer. Would offer as well,that this intellectual manifestation of 'mad cow' is as great a threat to the world's population as is the biological.
Mr. Feldman's analysis is not just irrational, facetious. . .misguided. It is a deadly viral ignorance that is increasingly; madly, on the loose.
Mega truth bump. . .
Genesis 16:11And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
Genesis 16:12And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren...
As to the article, the stupidity of the liberal PC thought police knows no bounds. This fool supposes that all Western "liberal secular" cultures are to defer to Islamofascism, and be happy to do it, because that somehow makes us a better, more advanced culture. lol. Of course, once Islam reaches critical mass (as you pointed out so well) then there is no "tolerance" for anything other than Islam. What this politically correct nutjob is basically saying is that we should all be happy to tolerate muslim immigrants, and then become muslim once we have no other choice (of course, he makes no mention of, or has any understanding of the fact that once enough muslims come aboard, then his liberal, secular utopia will no longer be a liberal, secular utopia). What mindless, dangerous dolts the NYTimes employs. I can't believe these fools get paid money to spew their insane drivel.
Of course, that battle or what should be 'a Battle' is barely being fought - in some cases, not at all - and so not being 'won', by the Muslim's choice of 'host Country' - those countries that have heretofore prospered by 'Moral lights'; that radical Islam promises to extinguish.
We have only to imagine the math - and what it promises for future Muslim demographics; and what it portends for a diminishing; if not disappearing population which hold to 'Western Values and Morality.
Noah Feldman is a well known POS to those who read Jihad Watch. He’s kind of mixed up and definitely not helpful to Isreal and Jews....of which he is one
He’s got a big career to do. Is a media darling. Is a diplomat in that every phrase is filtered so as not to offend his informants and “constituencies”
OK I read the entire thing. This Noah Feldman is stupid and disgusting. If Obama wins he might get a job in DC
That quote is from a book I highly recommend. Have even read twice -—
“The Haj” by Leon Uris
It seems that most really only want to get here, get legal, and get 'paid'. Have any of you been to a social security office lately?
The all-tolerant liberal loser, Noah the Know-Nothing, ascended master of his tiny, tiny universe, floats down from his progressive mountain pinnacle to scold the inferiors for protecting their interests.
Noah, how many muslims you got living in your fairy castle?
You forgot to mention that only Anglo-American conservative chr*stians are required to give up their religious cosmogony and replace them with evolution. To try to teach Darwinism to "indigenous pipples" would probably lead to one being hauled before the World Court on the charge of "cultural genocide." But of course, it's the duty of all rednecks to jettison all their traditional supernatural beliefs if favor of "what really happened."
It's the whole "noble savage" thing. Is it not interesting that the forces of science and enlightenment (who have attacked Biblical religion for over two centuries) have from the very beginning celebrated the supernatural beliefs of the "noble savage?" In fact, one of the claims the atheists make is that if they and not chr*stians had dominated the western world they would have protected the beliefs of the "indigenous pipples" and never attempted to alter them!
How does one become "indigenous?" It sounds like a good deal!
Okay, I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but I must point out that this is the correct pre-enlightenment view of all religions (though there were glimmers of this in chr*stianity's "render unto Caesar" and Luther's "two kingdoms"). For the most part up until the "enlightenment" "religion" did not exist as a separate category at all. It was merely part of the seamless whole of life.
Orthodox Judaism still holds to this view. The Torah regulates not only "religious" matters but "secular" ones as well (in fact, nothing is "secular"). In fact it could be called a totalitarian system, but this only makes sense since G-d is the sole authority and reason for everything.
Please don't misunderstand. I am not pro-islamic. Islam is a false religion. But for conservatives to attack this particular aspect of islam (while attacking secularism elsewhere) is hypocritical and makes no sense. Well, it makes as much sense as liberals who defend islam while demanding "secularism" of everyone else. Wait a minute . . . that means I was right the first time.
There is only one G-d and only His Laws, which are mandatory on all humanity. Islam errs because they worship the wrong "gxd," have the wrong "scriptures," and a false legal system that is not from Heaven. But to insist that G-d's Laws are all-embracing is simple unadorned pre-enlightenment religion, which I would think any conservative would agree with.
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