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Exodus of S.F.'s middle class
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/21/8 | James Temple

Posted on 06/21/2008 11:02:03 PM PDT by SmithL

It's urban flight flipped on its head: The number of low- and middle-income residents in San Francisco is shrinking as the wealthy population swells, a trend most experts attribute to the city's exorbitant housing costs.

Many worry it's increasingly turning San Francisco into an enclave of the rich, where nurses, firefighters, cops, teachers and others professionals aspiring toward homeownership or in need of cheaper rent can no longer afford to stay.

"A kind of derogatory term for the city would be Disneyland for yuppies," said Hans Johnson, demographer with the Public Policy Institute of California. "There is a legitimate public policy concern when a city that many people have lived in for many years and regard as their homes, becomes so expensive they can't afford to live there anymore."

From 2002 to 2006, the number of households making up to $49,000 per year dropped by 7.4 percent, those earning between $50,000 and $99,999 declined by 4.4 percent, and those bringing home between $100,000 and $149,999 fell by 3.9 percent, according to Census Bureau estimates. In polar opposition, the number of households making between $150,000 and $199,999 surged 52.2 percent and those earning more than $200,000 climbed 40.1 percent.

Certainly, some of the movement can be attributed to people earning their way into higher income classes. But a separate analysis of census data from those who reported moving from San Francisco to elsewhere in the United States confirms the overall trend: The less you make, the more likely you are to leave the city or not move here in the first place.

The chance of departing in 2006 stood at less than 8 percent for those making $150,000 or more, but jumped to greater than 11 percent for those making between $25,000 and $50,000, according to the Public Policy Institute. "The net effect is...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: limousineliberals; sanfranciscovalues

Mike and Sarah Northrop at their Pacifica, Calif. home with their daughters Sylvanna, 4, with dad, and Nerea, 2, with mom, on June 13, 2008. After renting a home in San Francisco for seven years the family moved to Pacifica because they couldn't find a home they could afford to buy with enough room for the four of them.


1 posted on 06/21/2008 11:02:04 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Who would WANT to raise kids in Sodom and Gomorrah?


2 posted on 06/21/2008 11:05:35 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: SmithL

Trailer parks are going to be a booming businesses in the US, and, 3 or 4 years from now will be superstellar performers. Looking to buy a stellar RV for a second home 4 years from now for almost nothing. Any predictions for sooner?


3 posted on 06/21/2008 11:07:01 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: Kozak

If the alternative were a sh-thole like Tracy or Stockton, I’d choose Sodom and cover my ass...


4 posted on 06/21/2008 11:09:28 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: SmithL
"I think it's a shame, a real shame that it costs so much," she said. "I believe if you work here, you should be able to afford to live here."

Huh? I know people that work in Newport Beach and Brentwood...But they sure can't afford to live there.

It's simple, you have to live where you can afford.

5 posted on 06/21/2008 11:10:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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For all it’s problems San Francisco is a beautiful city, and one of the things I really miss since I moved to Washington State from the Bay Area is being able to hop on BART for a day trip there with my friends.

I moved from California to Washington for several reasons, the most important being to move closer to my family, and the second most important was that the high cost of living in the Bay Area.


6 posted on 06/21/2008 11:15:26 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (I've got the fevah!)
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To: givemELL

Trailer parks, yes, but not RVs at $4/gallon or more.


7 posted on 06/21/2008 11:17:47 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: SmithL

The same thing is happening in lots of other cities.


8 posted on 06/21/2008 11:20:02 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SmithL
Things have sure changed in S.F. Originally from Philadelphia, my dad moved to S.F. in 1950. He had shipped out from S.F. during WWII, and liked what he saw. He and my mom bought their house in S.F. for $6000, fully furnished too. My mom sold it in the early 1970's for $23,000 to yuppie Sunset Magazine writers. We couldn't believe the plans they showed us, wanting to sink more than $60K in remodeling. They made a ton of money, as the whole neighborhood went upscale.

All the old neighbors we knew couldn't afford to fix up, so they sold and moved on. The newbies had the cash, but not the old-timers. Those homes now sell between $1M to $2M. Of course, they have stuff we didn't have, like wine cellars, in-door saunas and multiple decks. Like I said, things have changed.

9 posted on 06/21/2008 11:38:44 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: SmithL
Unfortunately, many of the Bay area liberals have cashed out their overpriced houses and infested our county (Placer). You can always spot them. The backs of their cars are covered with anti- Bush, free tibet, coexist, peace is patriotic etc. stickers. AWL (angry white liberals).
10 posted on 06/22/2008 12:11:03 AM PDT by willk
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To: Kozak

Perhaps the new owners will finally decide to give the residents of Golden Gate Park the boot, and clear the alleys and doorways of the very lowest echelons of the city dwellers, those who don’t have any houses, and spread their excrement all over the sidewalks. I see this as a trend for the better. Maybe I will want to go visit there again.


11 posted on 06/22/2008 12:13:46 AM PDT by webheart
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To: dragnet2

I thought the same thing. Sounds like big chunks of LA.


12 posted on 06/22/2008 1:00:45 AM PDT by HarryCaul (Verify Possums! Pogo's Enemy is Us!)
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To: SmithL

Ah yes...One of mankinds most catalytic mixtures...the degenerate super rich, and the dangerously poor...


13 posted on 06/22/2008 1:55:26 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: SmithL

So what? It’s market forces at work. If that’s what the market will sustain, then that’s fine. If the city government wants to build subsidized housing, then let them. People are voting with their feet. Why they want to live in SF is a mystery to me. Must be a better place than what it looks like from an outsiders perspective. I have no sympathy for those who can’t afford to live in the city. You wanna live there, make the necessary sacrifices.


14 posted on 06/22/2008 2:10:29 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: SmithL
"It's not very healthy for the city's social fabric or the city's economy," said Roberta Achtenberg, an economic development consultant who focuses on workforce housing.

One thing they don’t mention in the article is this trends effect on the crime rate specifically violent crime and burglary crimes usually associated with lower income individuals.

Seems to me that with the lower income families moving out and families with children moving out the crime rate should be falling.

15 posted on 06/22/2008 2:23:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac
I thought Roberta Achtenberg's name was familiar, so I Wiki'd it:

She was elected as a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1990 and resigned in 1993 when she was appointed Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development by President Bill Clinton. Her confirmation was famously held up by Senator Jesse Helms who refused to vote for 'that damned lesbian.'

I miss Jesse!
16 posted on 06/22/2008 2:49:09 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: SmithL
Sylvanna and Nerea

???

17 posted on 06/22/2008 3:19:23 AM PDT by Dedbone
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To: Pontiac
"Roberta Achtenberg, an economic development consultant"

She was in the Clinton Admnistration for a bit.

Used her position to threaten homeowner groups with legal process for disputing her leftist, lesbian, totalitarian agenda.

Sorry to see she is still operating.

18 posted on 06/22/2008 3:58:10 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SmithL
From 2002 to 2006, the number of households making up to $49,000 per year dropped by 7.4 percent, those earning between $50,000 and $99,999 declined by 4.4 percent, and those bringing home between $100,000 and $149,999 fell by 3.9 percent,

Wow.
19 posted on 06/22/2008 4:02:11 AM PDT by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
I miss Jesse!

Me too

20 posted on 06/22/2008 4:13:25 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: SmithL
This is a spin-laden article from 2001, which I'm posting just to show how long this has been occurring....

Children in exodus S.F. has lowest number of families in state with members who are under 18

SF has had years to do something about the trend, and has instead done nothing but exacerbate it.

21 posted on 06/22/2008 4:21:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SmithL

You can buy a nice three bedroom Victorian for $2,300 in Flint or Detroit. Our communist governor is creating affordable housing for her army of welfare bums, thieving politicians, crooked bureaucrats and others leeching off taxpayers.

Opportunity knocks, San Francisco citizens.


22 posted on 06/22/2008 4:22:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: mewzilla
And this is from 2007, another group disenchanted with their 'Rat-run Utopia...

San Francisco hopes to reverse black flight

23 posted on 06/22/2008 4:24:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SmithL
In recent years, South of San Francisco began SUBSIDIZING the loans/rents of school teachers teaching in those locations so that teachers could be "closer" to the communities they resided in and be a part of the "community" scene.

Which group of "workers" is the Bay Area planning to subsidize now?

24 posted on 06/22/2008 4:33:24 AM PDT by Alia
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To: SmithL
San Franciso in ten years will be the home of fabulously rich people.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 06/22/2008 4:37:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL

When Obama gets elected everybody in the whole U. S. of A. will be entitled to a residence in San Francisco, and it will be for free. It’s only fair!


26 posted on 06/22/2008 5:25:59 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: SmithL

How Rent Control Drives Out Affordable Housing

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-274.html


27 posted on 06/22/2008 5:38:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: dragnet2

I know a couple who live in Stockton and drive to SF to work everyday.


28 posted on 06/22/2008 6:11:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: sergeantdave
You can buy a nice three bedroom Victorian for $2,300 in Flint or Detroit.

Yeah, and you can buy an acre of dusty rocky desert land for cheap too..

Regions of land and homes that are dirt cheap are because no one wants to be there.

29 posted on 06/22/2008 9:19:47 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: SmithL
Exodus of S.F.'s middle class

The worse thing about the exodus is that, wherever those people move to, they will bring their liberal beliefs and politics. They're not smart enough to realize that their previous hometowns or states were devastated by liberal policies and politics. The politics they bring with them to their new homes will eventually cause those new towns, cities, or states to become the hellholes they left behind. Most of those people will continue to vote democrat with the hope that perhaps in their new homes, their form of socialism will this time be better implemented. They're not smart enough to realize that it is socialism itself that caused their old hometowns to deteriorate.
30 posted on 06/22/2008 9:33:16 AM PDT by adorno
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To: willk

That’s a shame. I grew up in South Placer. Mostly Lincoln, but for a little while in Auburn, Newcastle and Rocklin. What a great area that was to grow up.


31 posted on 06/22/2008 9:35:16 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: willk
Unfortunately, many of the Bay area liberals have cashed out their overpriced houses and infested our county (Placer)

I grew up in Amador county. After being in Texas for 25 years, I don't recognize anything of the place I remember. It's been completely ruined.

32 posted on 06/22/2008 9:42:36 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: willk
“Unfortunately, many of the Bay area liberals have cashed out their overpriced houses and infested our county (Placer).”

I have heard of it referred as the Liberal Locust Effect. It reminds me of the aliens in Independence Day.
As far of the bumper stickers goes it amuses me to see their self absorbed attitudes plastered all over the back of their car. The stickers are usually half rotted and sometimes covers their rear windows. One can only hope they make an ill advised turn in front of a tractor trailer. :~)

33 posted on 06/22/2008 10:09:47 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Kozak
"A kind of derogatory term for the city would be Disneyland for yuppies homo's,"
34 posted on 06/22/2008 1:06:19 PM PDT by realdifferent1
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