Posted on 06/22/2008 10:21:43 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
It's official: Obama will back a filibuster of any Senate FISA legislation containing telecom immunity, his campaign has just told Election Central. The Obama campaign has just sent over the following statement from spokesman Bill Burton:
"To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."
(Excerpt) Read more at tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com ...
Further proof that B. Hussein Obama is going after the Islamoterrorist vote.
Is he friends with these terrorists too?
Isn’t he a little bit late? Didn’t the President sign legislation protecting the telecoms from prosecution .. so that means the Senate already had to approve it. Am I missing something?
Obama seeking the terrorists vote?
My mistake - the House approved it, but the Senate hasn’t yet. Sorry.
This was from October 07.
Obama is against:
* Drilling for oil
* Lower Gas Prices
* Lower food prices
* Lower taxes
* Maintaining jobs
This means that Mr. Obama might support an ex-post facto law retroactively criminalizing acts by the telecoms. Of course, this type of law is expressly forbidden by the U.S. Constitution, but according to the left, it's a "living document" that means whatever they say it means.
It's anti-business, pro-terrorist and pro-trial lawyer, all in one!
Hes such an ass.
MoveOn yanks the strings and Obama dances..$$$$$$$
that was 2007, the following is 6/20/08...
Obama Supports FISA Legislation, Angering Left
By Paul Kane
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) today announced his support for a sweeping intelligence surveillance law that has been heavily denounced by the liberal activists who have fueled the financial engines of his presidential campaign.
In his most substantive break with the Democratic Party’s base since becoming the presumptive nominee, Obama declared he will support the bill when it comes to a Senate vote, likely next week, despite misgivings about legal provisions for telecommunications corporations that cooperated with the Bush administration’s warrantless surveillance program of suspected terrorists.
Guess he doesn’t need donations from any American Company now.
Bill Ayers for starters.
Islamofacist and Trial Lawyers.
What a pairing!
Along with the campaign taking the stance this week that Osama Bin Laden in innocent.
Add America....
Dated 2007. Why is this posted now????
Thanks. I see the date of OP’s article is back in 2007. Kind of misleading everyone here to believe this is a recent statement by Barak, especially with this legistration coming up for a vote shortly in the Senate. I do not appreciate being misled.
He sounds pretty sure that he will be elected.
Next ObamaSama will introduce “Conspiracy To Murder” charges against firms that make M-16s used by our troops...
I’d say that it pretty clearly demonstrates that a Harvard education is no longer worth the price of tuition.
Do you believe ObamaSama has changed his mind?
Because after last week's developments, it's relevant now? I don't know.
You should have indicated the year in your posting. It was and is misleading. That is your problem.
How he do dat? He never go der to dat Senate nohow.
Obama’s Unsung Hero/Politico
Snip:
Berman left presidential politics for three cycles. But then, in 2004, in his second tour in Gephardt’s orbit, he made a crucial friend: Gephardt campaign manager Plouffe, who would take the same role on Obama’s campaign.
Last year, Berman moved to Chicago to help Obama; his wife and four children remain in Washington, D.C.
Many campaign operatives make a career of politics, but delegate counters tend to be an exception. They’re typically lawyers by training, for one. And their skills are in demand only every four years. Berman, despite the Obama campaign’s anti-lobbyist stance, has spent most non-campaign time at the Washington law and lobbying firm Winston and Strawn, where he specialized in telecommunications. His main lobbying client, according to federal filings, was the in-flight telecommunications firm Aircell.
Delegate selection “has been sort of his hobby while he was a real lawyer the rest of the time,” said Elmendorf. “This is the year it’s become incredibly useful.”
Ummm... this would be a real good time for Obama to explain the Orascom deal re: Iraq (anybody out there trolling for Obama better read this before it’s too late).
http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-and-iraq.html
Sure, they could say another reason for Obama not to want them wiretapped (that kinda makes him fodder for the terror supporter label, cause gee, no way he would set up the freedom fighters to get monitored), or they can admit Obama sure was making a lot of deals with Auchi, Rezko and Alsammarae re: Iraq... no wonder he pushed back his timeline of getting out and the recent legislation didn’t include one (hence, he’s not as against the war as he made it seem). Oh bother.
As a special double blind troll special, here’s some points on lobbyists in general and views from the other side (fair/balanced):
http://www.examiner.com/p-171260~RNC__Obama_s_Lobbyist_Denial.html
Op Research, just because (re: thread topic):
Ouch from Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/19/obama/
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_I_ll_Fight_To_Strip_Telecom_Immunity_From_FISA
Rut Roh
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/7/23318/97359
Obama Camp Says It: He’ll Support Filibuster Of Any Bill Containing Telecom Immunity
tpmelectioncentral ^ | October 24, 2007 | Greg Sargent
I saw that later, but your post was and is still misleading, with the indication that this was a recent statement by Obama.
"Flip flopping" is only bad when gas goes from two bucks to five bucks. McCain should be ashamed of himself!
sarc/off
No where did I indicate that, you assumed.
Thanks Ali.
Now, let’s do nuances. Richard M. Daley is a very efficient mayor and good administrator as was his father, Richard J, but nobody in what is known as greater “Chicagoland”, who calls themselves a “reformer”, would want the endorsement of any Dick Daley. The term “Daley-Reformer” is an oxymoron (to distinguish it from ordinary morons).
And amazingly enough for a Chicago machine pol, there are millions of people out there who believe that Barack Obama will bring them “Change We Can Believe In”. In fact there is nothing in Obama’s record as a law maker that isn’t pure “sweet home Chicago”. Check this from the Boston Globe:
(Obama) worked with lobbyists as an Illinois legislator and US senator, even as he distances himself from them as a presidential candidate. The Republican National Committee sent out a press release Thursday, noting that a former lobbyist, Antill E. Trotter, held a fund-raiser for Obama that night in Washington. Trotter specialized in telecommunications, transportation, and environmental issues from 2000-2004. The RNC release also contained reminders of an ABC News report that Obama introduced nine bills to make certain chemicals tax-exempt at the request of some corporate lobbyists; and a Boston Globe report about Obama’s work with an insurance lobbyist to make healthcare legislation more acceptable to insurance companies. Joan Vennochi - Boston Globe
From this, read it all:
http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/2008/05/dick-daleys-favorite-hawaiian.html
If this guy becomes president our Republic is doomed. He’s wrong on all the issues.
The McCain haters had better pull their heads out of their tailpipes or this radical Marxist is going to become president and we will be lucky if we aren’t all shuttled off to the gulags and wind up with our skin being made into lampshades.
So why post a 9 month old article? There are one or two more recent articles out there.
texasdem wrote on October 24, 2007 1:51 PM:
On October 18, TPM posted an article entitled, “Obama Comes Out Against Telecom Immunity Bill.” Within that article, Obama is quoted as saying, “It is time to restore oversight and accountability in the FISA program, and this proposal — with an unprecedented grant of retroactive immunity — is not the place to start.” There was nothing from the Clinton camp.
Then yesterday, October 23, TPM posted, “Obama: I Would Support Dodd’s Filibuster.” Obama’s campaign is quoted saying, “Senator Obama has serious concerns about many provisions in this bill, especially the provision on giving retroactive immunity to the telephone companies.” Furthermore, he would support a filibuster of the bill in its current form. TPM called this a “quasi-declaration of opposition to telecom immunity in general.” Now that we are all(?) clear on Obama’s position.....
just another dirty Rat.
Let me mislead you some more.
June 21, 2008, 12:20 PM
Obama: I’ll Fight To Strip Telecom Immunity From FISA
Snip:
Obama said there is “little doubt” that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, “has abused [its] authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders.”
“Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program.
“[The bill] does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses.”
The House approved the legislation 293-129.
THE LINK:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/06/21/politics/horserace/entry4200105.shtml
-— Now we know CBS doesn’t lie.
Thanks.
No problem.
Remember that Reid is to cover for Barack re: immunity.
Don’t forget.
Maybe with the fire from his supporters, he’d have to grandstand it... I hope his earpiece works and he can ‘hear himself’ this time when explaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8znPAEaI9KA&feature=related
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