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Posted on 06/22/2008 10:11:46 PM PDT by jmc813
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I absolutely agree with you.
My point is simply that I can't judge him and you can't judge him...Only our all-loving and all-forgiving God can judge him.
May he rest in peace.
Ha ha ha!!!
Sure I can! I can judge him in life. What I can't do, is judge him in death. I'll leave that up to a higher authority.
I’m not saying for certain that he is damned, but we shouldn’t be posting all this hagiography saying he was a great guy. The man was a jerk.
With all due respect...who are you to judge anyone? In life or in death? Shall you cast the first stone??
You’ve got to be joking! LOL
He may have known “of” Christ, but he never “knew” Him if he could reject Him so completely.
With all due respect to you - you are friends with everyone you meet in life? The thieves, the adulterers, the abusers, not to mention the just plain not nice people? We all make judgments about people every day. Don’t pretend otherwise. I taught my daughters that you’re judged by the company you keep therefore choose your friends wisely. We do not know where George Carlin’s soul is tonite. We can only speculate by the life he lived and what he outright told us. Like I posted prior, he could have made his peace with God at the very moment of death. Who knows?
No, I’m not.
Are you without sin? I know I’m not. So what gives us the right to judge anyone??
We humans judge our fellow humans all the time.
What I don’t do, is run around pushing anti-Christian liberalism, or defending people who do. Carlin was famous for his attacks on everything that was decent in America.
Believe me, brother, I am NOT an anti-Christian liberal...far from it. I just believe it’s up to God to judge the man...that’s all.
It sounds like George Carlin himself made the state of his soul pretty clear in his own words for the whole world (or at least his audience) to know. He judged himself in a very public way.
And tonite He has.
By his own words, Carlin didn’t lead a spiritual life. His morals were in the toilet. His humanity was in question.
In death, its God who will judge his soul. Not me.
That's all I'm saying...So shouldn't we pray that he finds his way into the arms of our all-loving and all-forgiving God?
This Christian doesn’t believe in praying someone into Heaven. If he rejected Christ in this life, God is not “all-forgiving” now that he’s on bended knee before Him now. The time to gain forgiveness from God ended when Carlin took his last breath here with us. God is not “all-loving” either. He hates sin. He turned His face from His own son at the cross.
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!
We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.
You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole.
So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that's begun. Don't you think that's already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let's see... Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh...viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.
Einstein said the following on the subject of the existence of God and I think it fits rather well here:
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."
Someone can be agnostic/athiest and still not run rampant murdering people. Just because they don't fear godly retribution doesn't change their motivation to be good, well-meaning members of society... they just find that imperative from a different internal place. The same goes for belief in anything, really. George Carlin had a God given talent...He was but the clay...just as you and I are.
I must respectfully disagree with you. I do believe that God is all-forgiving and all-loving. Guess I just don’t buy into the “my way or the highway” view of Christianity (i.e. the Inquisition and all that sorta thing)...Reckon I prefer the “Judge not that ye be not judged” and the “Love thy neighbor as thy love thyself” form of Christianity as preached by Jesus Christ Himself.
We are clay to be molded. Unfortunately, Mr. Carlin didn’t allow God into his life to mold him into anything more than the lump he started out as. Yes, he had a God-given talent and he wasted it instead of using it to glorify God which is the purpose of any talent God sees fit to bless us with.
"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the World"?
If you know in your bible where that comes from then read the chapter...and ponder on it. Hyper judgemental religious ideologues find not the wisdom in God's words that Job did.
He was just as miserable and bitter as a young man.
One of the things he said that I liked — “It’s easier to put on fuzzy slippers than to carpet the whole world.”
"Oxymorons will never be the same."
Later today, in his memory, I might have some jumbo shrimp.
I noticed that too. I think he always had an edge, but it got much sharper and more cynical after her death.
Saw the man years ago in Rochester, NY. My side hurt from laughing so hard. He was brilliant!!
Carlin’s voice carried influence; he knew that. He also knew that he had a bad heart that could pop at any time.
Such acts are judged appropriately.
Your above statement sums it up perfectly.
Rest in peace Al Sleet. You made me laugh many a time. I even bought your early records.
Good to know we have the Psychic Soul Weatherman on board this thread......what's his forecast for tomorrow?
More torment with intermitent pangs of remorse?
Read these words: George Carlin Dead.
Do you feel better now or still sick?
His material about food had me laughing for days.
"I don't have any beliefs or allegiances. I don't believe in this country, I don't believe in religion, or a god, and I don't believe in all these man-made institutional ideas," he told Reuters in a 2001 interview. Carlin told Playboy in 2005 that he looked forward to an afterlife where he could watch the decline of civilization on a "heavenly CNN."
Strange, and sad. I wonder who he thought created the afterlife where he could watch this "heavenly CNN."
LOL thanks Mila. That hit what for me was the man’s essence- he listened to language, he slowed the tape down and really paid attention to what we do and say on a daily basis without a second thought about what’s really going on.....he saw the man behind the curtain.
Funerals, memorials, and tributes are for the survivors, NOT the deceased. Though some believe it's for them to pontificate: See Fred Phelps. Let's not try plumbing the depths, the way they do on the Huffington Post or DU.
And you know this... How?
In Baltimore, it will always be 6:15.
One of the problems with our society is that we are not allowed to judge people, and I think that is a serious flaw. This has created all kinds of problems for us.
Plus, it is what Liberals strive for-they know that if you have no values, you cannot be accused of hypocrisy, which to them, seems to be the worst crime. A very Roussouian outlook, that each of us should be able to do WHATEVER we wish without any interference or judgement from others.
I haven’t found Carlin to be funny since I was a teenager, and the last few times I saw him, it saddened me more than it angered me. I hope he has found peace, since he had a lot of demons haunting him.
"I'm not concerned about all hell breaking loose, but that a PART of hell will break loose...it'll be much harder to detect"...George Carlin
True reason for mourning his death. Unless he repented, he is in torment tonight.
Do not presume to know the mind of God, wingnut.
I recall hearing that George once walked out on stage and told the audience he'd forgotten his notes, then just basically stood on-stage for 5 or 10 minutes, said 'Thank You' and walked off.
The thread police!
I’m “shell-shocked”. Or is it “battle fatigue”?