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Fred Thompson on Obama's Boumediene Folly
HotAir.com ^ | June 22, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/22/2008 11:44:56 PM PDT by Uncle Ralph

[Fred Thompson writes:]

Our Democratic friends are once again scrambling to defend Senator Obama's latest national security gaffe.

Obama supports the recent Supreme Court majority opinion in the Boumediene decision, which extended for the first time habeas corpus rights to foreign enemy combatants held abroad. The Senator went even further than the Court and said that accused terrorists should be tried in American courts as was Omar Abdel Rahman, "the blind sheik", who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing.

Last week, in a call with reporters and bloggers, I pointed out Obama's folly. The Rahman case demonstrates some of the main reasons why we should not treat enemy combatants as ordinary criminal defendants. Such proceedings potentially compromise results, sources and methods of intelligence gathering. In the course of prosecuting Rahman, the government was compelled to turn over a list of un-indicted co-conspirators to the defendant. That list included the name of Osama bin Laden. We later learned that within ten days a copy of that list reached bin Laden in Khartoum, letting him know that his connection to that case had been discovered.

My comments apparently caused the DNC to send out an A.P.B. for anything that might help their candidate out of this problem. Their "Googling" efforts revealed the fact that last year I pointed out that bin Laden would have to be given due process when he is apprehended.

Given that our Democrat friends apparently don't understand what "due process" means for enemy combatants, they probably thought they had found a silver bullet for their candidate. For them, my statement supports Obama's argument for terrorist trials in United States courts.

Of course, it doesn't...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boumediene; fredthompson; gaffe; obama
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1 posted on 06/22/2008 11:44:57 PM PDT by Uncle Ralph
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; papasmurf; Bobbisox; DesScorp; thefactor; ...
FRED PING!!
2 posted on 06/22/2008 11:53:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: Uncle Ralph

The comments on the article are interesting as well. Obama isn’t qualified to be an intern and has managed to get where he is.


3 posted on 06/22/2008 11:57:06 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Uncle Ralph

Reminds me of the little video response to poor old fat Michael Moore ... and when I read Fred’s words, I can hear his voice in my head. Kinda like the sound of that wisdom don’tchaknow.


4 posted on 06/23/2008 12:00:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Uncle Ralph

I still want Fred. I say we organize a national “Draft Fred” campaign and force the RNC to dump McCain at the convention.

Tell me that wouldn’t ignite the base.


5 posted on 06/23/2008 12:09:40 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Uncle Ralph

Sure am glad that everyone on this board went for the Huckster and Romney and the rest. Thanks for not supporting the conservative in the race... Least he still remembers which team he plays on. GO FRED!


6 posted on 06/23/2008 12:11:24 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Windflier

The only way we could get Fred as President is for McCain to pick him as running mate and then after taking office John could not continue as president. Frankly, I hope Joihn picks Fred because John sure isn’t up to dealing with the lying deceit-filled media and the dnc.


7 posted on 06/23/2008 12:14:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Uncle Ralph

If ONLY someone like Fred could be making policy or helping shape it in the next administration.


8 posted on 06/23/2008 12:16:45 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MHGinTN
The only way we could get Fred as President is for McCain to pick him as running mate...

Not true at all.

If you, I, and another million Republicans emailed the RNC today, and demanded that they replace McCain with Fred, it would happen.

The RNC doesn't own us, or the process of electing our president. They can only force upon us that which we are willing to accept.

There is no law which binds the American people to accept the nominee of any political party. This isn't a totalitarian dictatorship - yet.

No - the only reason we're going to get McCain is because not enough of us will raise our voices against him.

9 posted on 06/23/2008 12:28:23 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
“Tell me that wouldn’t ignite the base.”

But after watching him campaign this past year, I am left wondering if it would be enough to ignite Fred.

If Fred had been a Governor of Tennessee at one time, he would be a shoo-in for VP.

10 posted on 06/23/2008 12:44:47 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: kingu

I only wish I’d had the chance to vote for Fred.


11 posted on 06/23/2008 12:51:14 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Roy Tucker
...after watching him campaign this past year, I am left wondering if it would be enough to ignite Fred.

Fred wouldn't be the first reluctant, yet magnificent leader.

For all of his very real faults and missteps, Harry Truman loved this country and knew his duty to America and to our allies.

He never wanted the job of VP, much less the top job, but it came to him nonetheless. Once there, he performed beyond his capabilities in many ways.

Fred Thompson has the right temperament and the right principles to run this country. He's courageous, a bona fide patriot, and he's what we need at this time. We need to draft him for president for the good of the country.

12 posted on 06/23/2008 12:56:03 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I like Fred. I think his adherence to the written Constitution and preference to turn a lot of political issues back to the States to decide is exactly correct.

However, given that he endorsed McCain on February 12th of this year, when he quit the campaign, how is this draft Fred effort going to work?


13 posted on 06/23/2008 1:20:37 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Windflier
If the Rats can dis the Queen after she recieved the majority
of the vote, pubbies certainly could nominate Fred. The POTUS is nominated by the convention amd the Candidate is not elected in November but when the electoral college meets.
barbra ann
14 posted on 06/23/2008 1:21:00 AM PDT by barb-tex ( A prudent man (more so for a woman) foreseeth the evil and hideth him self,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
bump!

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http://Vets4McCain.com

15 posted on 06/23/2008 2:40:22 AM PDT by W04Man (OUR TROOPS DESERVE A QUALIFIED CIC....... http:Vets4McCain.com.... sign the Roll Call!)
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To: Aria
I will be voting for Fred. I have memorized his name so I can write it in. My principals will not allow me to cast away a vote for McCain. This lesser of two evils crap does not wash clean for me. McCain is rubbish in my book. Hussein Obama is lower than whale dodo.
16 posted on 06/23/2008 2:57:31 AM PDT by CHEE (ROCK STEADY!)
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To: CHEE

A non vote for McCain is a vote for Obama!


17 posted on 06/23/2008 3:11:23 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: kingu

I like Fred too, but, let’s face reality, he was a lousy candidate.


18 posted on 06/23/2008 3:26:07 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Windflier
If you, I, and another million Republicans emailed the RNC today, and demanded that they replace McCain with Fred, it would happen.

How many votes did McCain get?

19 posted on 06/23/2008 3:39:15 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: MHGinTN

We can dream. :(


20 posted on 06/23/2008 3:39:51 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: Windflier

I still want Fred. I say we organize a national “Draft Fred” campaign and force the RNC to dump McCain at the convention.

How can this happen when he was unable to get more than 2 or 3 percent of the population to vote for him in the primaries. As much as it sickens me, we are stuck with who we have.


21 posted on 06/23/2008 4:28:12 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Windflier

“Fred! Instead”

Someone in the comments at Hot Air left that one. I sense a new sticker in the works...


22 posted on 06/23/2008 4:39:46 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (I was gruntled before I was disgruntled.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
He was a lousy candidate because from day one the MSM told everyone he was a lousy candidate. Conservatives knew he was closer to them on all the issues than either Romney or Huckabee but they chose to believe what they were fed by the media.

If you have noticed recently they are now trying to pull the same stunt with McCain. I have seen articles in the past few days about his campaign being in disarray, how he is lacking focus, etc., etc. I guess they figure it worked before so they will try it again...

23 posted on 06/23/2008 5:10:30 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Coldwater Creek
A non vote for McCain is a vote for Obama!
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I think you misunderstood. I will be voting FOR Fred Thompson! I will NOT be forced to vote for the choices put forward by either the RNC or DNC. Fred may not win, but I will have not lost.

24 posted on 06/23/2008 5:13:35 AM PDT by CHEE (ROCK STEADY!)
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To: kingu

Well, I gave money to Fred - not much but I donated. However, by the time the primary came around in Maryland, Fred had already dropped out and so did Romney. I voted for Romney anyway.


25 posted on 06/23/2008 6:00:54 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: CHEE

NO! you are the one who doesn’t get it. Fred isn’t running.

Foolish thinking!


26 posted on 06/23/2008 6:15:55 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: kingu

It started with the Rudy folks creating a rotten narrative on Fred because he was coming on fast. That narrative was hard to shake and those same folks drifted to Romney then McCain. Fred was the closest thing to a real conservative in the race. Now we are stuck with McCrazy.


27 posted on 06/23/2008 6:21:53 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: commonguymd

I sent Fred’s campaign $100. He sent me a thank you note with a combination of my name and my wife’s name...


28 posted on 06/23/2008 6:34:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yeah, and that probably went right to McCain’s camp like mine did. I think that is fine actually, but I have yet to send McCain anything. Frankly, at this moment, I could care less. That is unfortunate.


29 posted on 06/23/2008 6:36:31 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: commonguymd
Correct. Two weeks ago, I got a solicitation from McCain with the same misspelling. I sent a note stating the three reasons I would not contribute;
1. ANWR.
2. Offshore drilling.
3. Global warming nonsense.
30 posted on 06/23/2008 6:49:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I could add about 20 more things to that list, but like I said, I am really apathetic about the race right now. Not sour grapes per se, but just frustrated that the only Republican running is one I loathed for years watching the Sunday shows.


31 posted on 06/23/2008 7:07:12 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
NO! you are the one who doesn’t get it. Fred isn’t running.

Foolish thinking!
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I wonder how many like you that will vote for McCain simply to vote against Obama are willing to send a lot of your hard earned cash to the McCain campaign.

You may not be aware that even though I am not running for the President of the USA I am FREE to vote for myself is I so please. Freedom is not foolish. Acting as a lemming is foolish.

32 posted on 06/23/2008 7:08:17 AM PDT by CHEE (ROCK STEADY!)
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To: commonguymd

I’ll hold my nose while I vote in November.


33 posted on 06/23/2008 7:10:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: CHEE

I’m voting for McCain - Obama is to dangerous to ignore.


34 posted on 06/23/2008 7:16:00 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I usually help get people to the polls, drive people such and so forth. This year someone might have to drag my rear to be honest. Not motivated.


35 posted on 06/23/2008 7:19:01 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: All

Think we could pull off a Torricelli and dump McCain for Fred? It worked in NJ.


36 posted on 06/23/2008 7:29:51 AM PDT by McGruff (This is not the [your name here] I knew.)
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To: kingu

Thanks for not supporting the conservative in the race...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I voted for Fred Dalton Thompson in the South Carolina primary, thank you very much!


37 posted on 06/23/2008 7:37:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Russ

“He was a lousy candidate because from day one the MSM told everyone he was a lousy candidate. Conservatives knew he was closer to them on all the issues than either Romney or Huckabee but they chose to believe what they were fed by the media.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You got that right! Hit one more nail squarely on the head and you are an honorary carpenter.


38 posted on 06/23/2008 7:42:17 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Coldwater Creek
A non vote for McCain is a vote for Obama!

It's amazing to me that people will stubbornly ignore this...stubborn, egotistic, ignorant? or all three.

I would like to see Fred appointed as AG...

39 posted on 06/23/2008 7:59:40 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: CHEE; Coldwater Creek
I think you misunderstood. I will be voting FOR Fred Thompson!

ahh................

the not understanding is on your part...or you think we're too dumb to understand that if you vote for someone else, that is a NON VOTE for McCain....which gives O another vote up. Math is absolute. No amount of tongue twisting can change it...

40 posted on 06/23/2008 8:08:29 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7
I despise “Ace” McCain, but I had to rethink my very adamant statement that I would NEVER vote for him.

I just can't see my active duty children saluting a Marxist!

41 posted on 06/23/2008 8:08:46 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Windflier

Got an address?


42 posted on 06/23/2008 8:13:29 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Exactly.


43 posted on 06/23/2008 8:14:46 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Uncle Ralph

If he can’t be Veep, we need Fred on the Supreme Court!


44 posted on 06/23/2008 8:19:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CHEE
This lesser of two evils crap does not wash clean for me. McCain is rubbish in my book. Hussein Obama is lower than whale dodo.

Do you like Obama less than McCain? If you don't vote for McCain that's who you'll get. I don't like McCain much myself; Fred was my guy, but he's far and away better than Obama. Since the War on Terror and the Supreme Court are two of the most important issues to me, McCain is much better on either of them than Obama, so I'll have no problem voting for McCain.

45 posted on 06/23/2008 8:23:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Windflier

Offered like a Barrite liebertarian. All Barry Obamamessiah needs is for the republican brand to be fractured. Keep working, you’ll get him elected yet!


46 posted on 06/23/2008 8:48:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

What color is the sky in Hyperbole Land?


47 posted on 06/23/2008 8:51:34 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: commonguymd

To you willfully blind, it doesn’t matter, all colors are the same as they circle down the drain of conceit you focus upon.


48 posted on 06/23/2008 8:54:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I need that little smiley parading around with the OMG OMG on it. Some of you folks absolutely amuse me! The hard work some of you are doing to stomp on the constitution in other arenas while promoting this liberal Republican all makes a lot of sense. Conservative my foot.


49 posted on 06/23/2008 9:00:01 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go Fred!


50 posted on 06/23/2008 9:04:44 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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