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Atheists and (gay) Christians unite to protest at Pope in Sydney
The West ^ | June 23, 2008 | JOHN TOWNSEND

Posted on 06/23/2008 9:58:33 AM PDT by NYer

A coalition of atheists and Christians will protest during World Youth Day against the Pope's visit to Sydney.

With slogans including “Gay is great” and “Condoms save lives“, the NoToPope Coalition is planning a peaceful rally and march on July 19, the day Pope Benedict XVI travels to Randwick racecourse in Sydney's east.   

“The Pope is homophobic,” coalition spokeswoman Rachel Evans said in a statement today.   

“Pope Benedict also condemns millions of people to AIDS via his world-wide anti-condom policy.”   

Members of the NoToPope Coalition include The Metropolitan Community Church, Atheists Sydney, The Socialist Alliance, Resistance, and Community Action Against Homophobia.   

Atheists Sydney spokesman Anthony Englund said the protesters wanted to engage the broader community in the issues of homosexuality and contraception.   

“These issues should be of concern not just to church groups but to society as a whole, and to young people in particular,” he said.   

The coalition is planning a rally at Taylor Square in Sydney's inner east on Saturday, July 19, followed by a march to Randwick racecourse, where the Pope will be holding a prayer vigil with tens of thousands of young people.   


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aids; atheists; carlin; condoms; georgecarlin; pope; religiousleft

1 posted on 06/23/2008 9:58:34 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
“Pope Benedict also condemns millions of people to AIDS via his world-wide anti-condom policy.”

Savvy Catholics should distribute copies of the following to the activists. These statistics support the position of the Catholic Church.

AIDS in Africa: Abstinence Works

2 posted on 06/23/2008 10:00:59 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
Savvy Catholics should distribute copies of the following to the activists. These statistics support the position of the Catholic Church.

Homosexual activists never let the truth get in the way of their slogans.

3 posted on 06/23/2008 10:06:33 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: NYer

The usual suspects once again: C.A.F.

Communists, Atheists, and F...


4 posted on 06/23/2008 10:07:51 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

How does the Pope’s anti-condom message condemn people to die of AIDS?

First of all, these protesters have contempt for the Pope, and there is nothing he could do to placate them anyway.

Second of all, homosexuals in mutually monogamous relationships have scant fear of AIDS. Are they implying that promiscuous behavior is the norm among certain people, and they need condoms in order to have sex with strangers? Exactly what are they saying?

Thirdly, if they feel so strongly, a Gay charitable foundation could distribute condoms all over the world if they wanted to . They don’t need the blessings of the Catholic Church to do so. They could proclaim to everyone, ignore what the Pope says, your salvation rests with a condom, not in anything a church teaches.


5 posted on 06/23/2008 10:13:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NYer

I’m sure these well-dressed, clean scrubbed, polite young people will make their point in a mature, respectful manner ;<]


6 posted on 06/23/2008 10:15:48 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: NYer

Whoa! Talk about strange bedfellows.


7 posted on 06/23/2008 10:16:12 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: NYer
Atheist and Gay “Christians”...

Gee, I see a pattern here...

8 posted on 06/23/2008 10:20:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: NYer
I bet you this crowd will be there as well:


9 posted on 06/23/2008 10:24:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: icwhatudo
The usual suspects once again: C.A.F.

Communists, Atheists, and F...

Lutherans doesn't start with an "F"....

/ducks

10 posted on 06/23/2008 10:28:12 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: NYer

There. I fixed it:


A coalition of Christophobes will protest during World Youth Day against theire archenemy’s visit to Sydney.

With slogans including “Depravity is great” and “We like to pretend that condoms make anal intercourse a tad less deadly”, the NoToPope Coalition is planning a rally and march brimming with half-dressed perverts cavorting on July 19, the day Pope Benedict XVI travels to Randwick racecourse in Sydney’s east.

“We are homophiles,” coalition spokeswoman Rachel Evans said in a statement today.

“We love condoms regardless of how ineffective they have proven to be, and we get lots of mileage from the leftist media out of our false claims that the Catholic Church’s refusal to endorse as moral homosexual anal intercourse and sodomy (which would be a direct contradiction to the Bible and thousands of years of moral teaching and practice) serves to condemn millions of people to AIDS.”

Members of the NoToPope Coalition include The Faithless Metropolitan Community Church, Satan’s Atheists Sydney, The Socialist Satanic Alliance, Satan’s Resistance, and Community Action Advicating Homophilia.

Satan’s Atheists Sydney spokesman Anthony Englund said the protesters wanted to propagandize the broader community in the issues of homophilia and spread the false gospel that there is such a thing as sex with zero consequences.

“These issues should be of concern not just to church groups but to society as a whole, and to satanic young people in particular,” he said.

The coalition is planning a radical and demeaning rally of a few dozen perverted aging unemployed baby boom whackdoodles at Taylor Square in Sydney’s inner east on Saturday, July 19, followed by a raucous march to Randwick racecourse, where they hope to disrupt and demean the Pope and the hundreds of thousands of faithful young men and women who will be holding a prayer vigil.


11 posted on 06/23/2008 10:46:42 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: NYer

Hell gets hotter and bigger, every day.


12 posted on 06/23/2008 11:08:23 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: NYer

Let me say from experience in arguing this issue elsewhere, people will ignore facts that don’t fit their anti-Catholic views.


13 posted on 06/23/2008 11:20:09 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will dismantle America and remake it as his marxist paradise.)
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To: gedeon3

Paraphrasing the guy in “Jaws”: “We gotta get a bigger handbasket!”


14 posted on 06/23/2008 11:28:13 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: newzjunkey

At first that headline was very off-putting but after thinking it over I guess one could call me an atheist christian; I was baptized in the Methodist church at an early age by my grandmother’s insistence and have been around mostly christian people my entire life.

After much thought I have concluded that strictly heirarchical churches are too stifling to the human character and dictatorial churches even worse.

The best choice is no church at all and a deep respect for those who live their lives with a strong conviction that causing harm is against the success of society and the race of man.

However, I have never been entranced by Mother Earth’s call to worship the ground upon which I trod and will fatefully crawl again - only to be covered by it in the end.

The final reward may simply be silence.


15 posted on 06/23/2008 11:34:59 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Notwithstanding

OMG....these twisted souls keep spitting often in the face of God....
Yikes....now that’s scary scenario....we may all be sinners but Jesus Christ the true Messiah has spared us from Hell if we acknowledge and accept His saving blood. These blind idiots are on a crash course to hell by rejecting the all wise and loving God who must exercise His judgement on those who reject Him and His plan for eternal slavation through Jesus. Pray that they wake up before its too late for them.


16 posted on 06/23/2008 11:41:48 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: NYer
For the Atheists: "The fool has said in his heart there is no God". Psalms 14:1

For the Gays: "Do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination". Leviticus 18:22

PS. errrr... the Pope did not write these scriptures dontchya know?

17 posted on 06/23/2008 11:47:34 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: NYer
For the Atheists: "The fool has said in his heart there is no God". Psalms 14:1

For the Gays: "Do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination". Leviticus 18:22

PS. errrr... the Pope did not write these scriptures dontchya know?

18 posted on 06/23/2008 11:47:40 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: NYer

There is no such thing as a gay Christian.

The lifestyles are diametrically opposed.

God, Jesus, and the Apostles have all declared Homosexuality a sin.

If you are actively sinning, you are not being Christ-Like, hence you are not a Christian.

Simple logic.


19 posted on 06/23/2008 11:50:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: NYer

Target rich environment.


20 posted on 06/23/2008 11:54:36 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: NYer

Some info re condoms:
http://www.hli.org/condom_database.html

also check out this “faithful condom user”:
http://www.hli.org/hli_billboard_tanzania.pdf


21 posted on 06/23/2008 12:00:20 PM PDT by Ozone34
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To: NYer

“Christians” with signs saying “Gay is Great”? Have they read their Bibles at all? Openly practicing sinful behavior without repentance is wrong. I do believe the gayness is part of the curse and the fall of man. Celebrating this disease only makes things worse.


22 posted on 06/23/2008 1:09:32 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: NYer

They are as much intolerant as they are ignorant.

But then again what can you expect from people that scream in the street?


23 posted on 06/23/2008 2:21:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The Lord.)
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To: NYer
"gay" Christians?
No. Gay "christians".
24 posted on 06/23/2008 2:42:02 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar/Feathers '08)
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To: Pyro7480

Who are they?


25 posted on 06/23/2008 3:55:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: newzjunkey
people will ignore facts that don’t fit their anti-Catholic views.

Bingo! This is nothing more than an excuse to vent their frustration. Thanks for the ping and post.

26 posted on 06/23/2008 3:58:13 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Old Professer
After much thought I have concluded that strictly heirarchical churches are too stifling to the human character and dictatorial churches even worse.

Imagine for just a moment that you took umbrage on the lowly worm and decided to take on its life in order to save it. This is precisely what God did. The Supreme Being who created the universe chose to be born in a stable in Bethlehem. You were born into this world to live; He was born, to die. He took on your form, out of great love, and humbled Himself to be shunned, spit upon, flogged, pierced with thorns and nailed to a cross so that you could be redeemed from your sinful state.

The best choice is no church at all and a deep respect for those who live their lives with a strong conviction that causing harm is against the success of society and the race of man.

Not only did He take on human form and allow Himself to be humiliated by mankind, He left a great gift to you! His Church. There is nothing dictatorial about this Church; if anything, it is liberating. Consider that of all the christian churches, only the Catholic Church has not approved artificial contraception. Why? Because, as this article demonstrates, once man steps out of the realm of marriage to one woman, he crosses the threshold into illness and disease. It is man, using his God given gift of "free will" who chooses to bring down these maladies upon himself. Without rules and regulations, a society cannot exist.

Our Lord said: "Where two or more are gathered in my name, I am there". You may devote as much time as you wish to solitude but in the end, you are part of a global world in which you play an important role.

The Catholic Catechism poses the question: "Why did God make me?" The response is so simple: "He made me to know, love and serve Him in this world and be happy with Him forever in the next". Until you actually know God, you cannot possibly love Him.

Your days on this earth are fleeting. Like wisps of air they will one day evaporate and you will come face to face with your Creator who will ask what you have done with His gift of life. Eternity is forever.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

27 posted on 06/23/2008 4:24:08 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Anti-Catholic “Christians”


28 posted on 06/24/2008 7:09:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: NYer

don’t worry fellow catholic freepers...
i’ll be there to deal with them!!


29 posted on 06/26/2008 3:18:24 AM PDT by rogernz
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don’t worry fellow catholic freepers... i’ll be there to deal with them!!

You must promise to provide daily coverage from the event! When B16 went to Germany, we had a freeper attending WYD. She would email me detailed information each day and I would post a thread with her running commentary. It was fresh, fun and made us feel like we were right there with the Holy Father. Perhaps you could be our "man in the field" :-)

30 posted on 06/26/2008 6:03:18 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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No, what Rachel wants is for people to act like rabid dogs in heat.


And this is silly : Members of the NoToPope Coalition include The Metropolitan Community Church,

What the frill is the Metropolitan la-di-dah?
31 posted on 06/26/2008 11:10:08 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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