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'When John McCain was my captive'
BBC ^ | 6/23/08 | Andrew Harding

Posted on 06/23/2008 11:44:02 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Tran Trong Duyet - a sprightly retiree and amateur ballroom dancer - must rank as one of John McCain's more unlikely supporters.

Four decades ago, during the Vietnam war, Mr Duyet was in charge of the notorious Hoa Lo prison - the place where Mr McCain says he was brutally beaten and tortured during five-and-a-half years as an American prisoner of war.

"McCain is my friend," said 75-year-old Mr Duyet as he feeds the caged birds he now keeps in his garden in this coastal city.

"If I was American, I would vote for him."

Informal chats

Navy pilot John McCain was shot down during a bombing raid over the North Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, in 1967.

He ejected from his aircraft and parachuted into a city lake - only to be dragged out by an angry crowd, barely conscious, and with two broken arms and a broken leg.

From there he was taken to Hoa Lo prison, known to its American military inmates as the "Hanoi Hilton."

McCain has since described enduring months of solitary confinement and systematic torture which drove him to try to kill himself.

"I don't know how he'd react if he met me again," said Mr Duyet, flicking through old black and white photographs of himself and his American prisoners at Hua Lo.

"But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners."

Mr Duyet reminisces instead about how he often summoned the future US presidential candidate to his private office for informal chats.

"We used to argue about the war - about whether it was right or wrong," he says.

"He is a very frank man - very conservative, and very loyal to his country and the American ideal.

"He had a very interesting accent and sometimes he taught me words in English and corrected my accent. I have followed his career since he left prison."

Rapprochement

So is Mr Duyet implying that that Senator McCain lied about his treatment at the Hanoi Hilton?

"He did not tell the truth," he says.

"But I can somehow sympathise with him. He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election."

But Mr Duyet's propaganda-perfect version of events is impossible to verify - and should be treated with caution in a country where the Communist authorities still keep a tight control over the media.

Relations between Vietnam and the United States have improved dramatically in recent years, following the normalisation of ties between the former enemies in 1995.

Mr McCain played a crucial role in bringing about that initial rapprochement - a fact which helps explain Mr Duyet's enthusiastic support for the McCain presidential campaign.

"I wish him success in the presidential election," he says.

"Of course the Americans started the war in Vietnam and killed so many people - but now we want to leave the past behind.

"So now I consider John McCain my friend because he did much to mend relations between our two countries. And if he becomes president he will do more to improve those ties."


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KEYWORDS: bertrandrussell; brusselltribunal; brusseltribunal; captive; duyet; hoa; hoaloprison; lo; mccain; pow; prison; rino; torture; tran; vietnam; vietnamwar
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1 posted on 06/23/2008 11:44:09 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Wonder what Mr Duyet thinks of Gitmo and giving American civil rights to captured terrorists...
2 posted on 06/23/2008 11:47:39 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: LibWhacker

Damning him with faint praise. Looks like Communists on both sides of the Pacific want to undermine his service.


3 posted on 06/23/2008 11:48:28 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: LibWhacker
"But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners."

"He did not tell the truth," he says.

"But I can somehow sympathise with him. He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election."

Yeah I'm totally going to believe that torturing, commie Charlie bastard.

4 posted on 06/23/2008 11:48:37 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: LibWhacker
the Americans started the war in Vietnam

Bzzzzt!

Thanks so much for playing.

Tell him what he's won, Don Pardo!

5 posted on 06/23/2008 11:49:15 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: LibWhacker
"But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners."

Watch the netkooks jump all over this sad lie as proof that McCain is lying about being tortured.
6 posted on 06/23/2008 11:49:38 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: LibWhacker

“But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners.”

Unbelievable, truly unbelievable.


7 posted on 06/23/2008 11:50:19 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: SolidWood
Yeah I'm totally going to believe that torturing, commie Charlie bastard.

No but other torturing, commie bastards will believe him.

"I don't know how he'd react if he met me again," said Mr Duyet

I don't know either but I'd pay money to see it and I'd even hold McCain's jacket for him.

8 posted on 06/23/2008 11:51:42 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: LibWhacker
"I don't know how he'd react if he met me again," said Mr Duyet

Well....the press clippings from February of 2000 may give him a rough idea.....

Several stories that ran last Friday quoted McCain as saying “I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live… I was referring to my prison guards and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend.”

You can expect this to be brought up again and again during the campaign season as race issues are brought up.

9 posted on 06/23/2008 11:51:59 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline Currently Under Construction)
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To: SolidWood

Yeah, if the North Vietnamese didn’t torture McCain then how come he can’t raise his arms over shoulders. McCain can’t even comb his own hair because of injuries he received as a POW.


10 posted on 06/23/2008 11:52:08 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: LibWhacker

If I had tortured the man who could become the one of the most powerful men in the world, politically speaking, I think I’d cover my tracks too.


11 posted on 06/23/2008 11:52:32 AM PDT by twigs
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To: LibWhacker

Is it this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nREIkkhJJBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPVvOYNVyo


12 posted on 06/23/2008 11:52:34 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Watch the netkooks jump all over this sad lie as proof that McCain is lying about being tortured.

And that is precisely why the BBC, part of Britain's Hard Left media world, published this article.

13 posted on 06/23/2008 11:53:07 AM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: LibWhacker
The left thinks the Swift Boat Vets for truth told lies about Kerry and cost him the election, so now they will tell lies about McCain's time in Vietnam in hope of costing McCain the election.
14 posted on 06/23/2008 11:53:56 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: LibWhacker
I recall McCain talking quite a few years back of a Cuban officer who was assigned to that prison.

He killed more than one prisoner.

15 posted on 06/23/2008 11:54:48 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, freerepublic.com baby)
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To: LibWhacker

So is Mr Duyet implying that that Senator McCain lied about his treatment at the Hanoi Hilton?

“He did not tell the truth,” he says.

“But I can somehow sympathise with him. He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election.”

I’m not a big supporter of McCain but I believe him over Duyet!!


16 posted on 06/23/2008 11:55:33 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: 2banana

Hoa Lo Prison, one of the prisons where John McCain was held, conducted “no torture,” according to one of the guards at the prison. It’s pretty clear to me: McCain and the other POWs broke each other’s arms and legs and strung each other up so they could more easily pull out their fingernails and toenails. They were given lots of yummy food by their guards, but most of the POWs were on strict diets, so they refused to eat that yummy food and dined on rats and crickets, instead.

It’s all so much clearer now.


17 posted on 06/23/2008 11:57:42 AM PDT by OkeyDokeyOkie
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not a big McCain fan but...I’ll side with him any time, any day, anywhere against this silly little liar of a man duyett.


18 posted on 06/23/2008 12:01:27 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not a big McCain fan but...I’ll side with him any time, any day, anywhere against this silly little liar of a man duyett.


19 posted on 06/23/2008 12:01:32 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: edpc
"I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live“

I believe Gook is used for Koreans and that Dink is used for Vietnamese, but what do I know?

20 posted on 06/23/2008 12:02:30 PM PDT by OldEagle
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