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Posted on 06/23/2008 3:29:26 PM PDT by sevenbak
While the Church rarely gets involved in political issues, there are times when moral issues override all else. This isn't the first time the Church has openly campaigned against Gay Marriage rulings, and I'm sure it won't be the last.
This PDF didn’t show up very well in the post. It can be read much easier here:
http://www.bycommonconsent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08028_00.pdf
I knew it was just a matter of time before the calvary was called to turn any and all things Mormon into another bashing thread. Congratulations.
You can disagree with the Church all you want, but they continue to take stands on moral issues, like it or not.
Blind squirel finds a nut ping?
The squirrel has been gathering for quite some time.
From the SL Trib article today on this very issue.
http://origin.sltrib.com/ci_9674302
sevenbak,arguing with them is like wrestling with a pig.
Pig loves it, and you get muddy.
Uhoh, that is just inviting a “hosing” comment from the ‘ping list’. Let’s see how long it takes...
seven,
Just for the record, I’m glad the Mormon religion is opposed
to gay marriage. I would be very glad if Hindus and any other religious group would get on board too.
And of course, it would be great if all denominations of
the Christian Church would also oppose gay marriage.
Best,
ampu
Amen, and Amen!!
Incredibly smart move by the Mormons. I wish the Methodists would do this but it’s not going to happen.
Um, that is the same nut...
It was a smart move, but an easy one to make. There are even atheist who vocally oppose Gay Marriage.
And it was only a matter of time before you jump to conclusions that a ping list is an automatic signal for you to bash and degrade those who disagree with lds.
Unless you know a special meaning for the word ping, you need to get over yourself.
You've hollered before you wuz hurt!
An awful LOT of Methodists do!
That's a real good time to brush up on the BIBLE!!
(Are there any OTHER standard works that address this gay thing?)
Genesis 13:13 Now
the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed,
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Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.
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Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....
We are born innocent. If we could not change, we would still be so.
It is rather odd for the salesman to respond to objections before any are actually raised of course...
One planet of many it appears..
Obscure, divert and run for cover is a long held tradition...
Can you add me to your Mormon-Hating ping list?
If you’ve got one for hating Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-Day adventists and certain Southern Baptist conventions (you know the ones), Hindu’s & Buddhists add me to that one, too.
I don’t want to miss any of the novel ideas you guys bring up, and I kinda enjoy the smug atmosphere around you guys! If you can’t be perfect, there’s always trying to be like you folks!
What ldsers hating ping list?
I have seen no one hating ldsers on FR.
I have seen disagreement but alas ldsers believe if you disagree with them it must be hate.
But after all they do love playing the victim.
Pitch in the dirt...
Another long held tradition...
Ignore it.
The slippery slope is if you allow gay marriage, polygamy cannot be far behind it. I would think the Mormon church would find this association uncomfortable. They should be whistling past the graveyard, in my opinion.
I think so too. Personally, I wish they had done this a few months ago and got a head start on the organization that will be needed.
Not the same nut, read the article. You can start in the late 90’s when the gay marriage movement really started picking up steam, and the LDS church donated over 1 million dollars to fight it in Alaska and Hawaii, and it keeps going from there. Read the article, lots of nuts in those squirrel cheeks.
That’s not why you are here?
I do hope to be proven wrong. I’ll gladly acquiesce if so.
Those are great ones, thanks!
Odd? I present your own post, number 21 as exhibit A. If you would care to discuss the issue at hand, and like I offered before, prove me wrong, please do.
Be patient grasshopper, all things will be revealed in due time, like all previous Mormon threads, one can’t stay away, no matter the subject.
Call me paranoid, but I’ve been around these threads long enough to know better.
This proclamation by the First Presidency, given in 1995 doesn't mince words. It was sent not only throughout the worldwide Church, but to governments, heads of state, etc, as a proclamation to the world.
Here's a snippet.
“... Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.
We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.”
The Family: A Proclamation to the World
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html
Issue remains the same.
Post 15 by elsie summed it up succinctly..
Divert, the traditions continues...
Wow. Y'all came to the party a little late. James Dobson formed "Focus on the Family" in 1977. I guess he is just an enigma of the Christian church, according to your cult's standards..
LDS apologists, like you, do an excellent job of posting long winded dissertations. Now, if you could just get the facts on your side, you may be on to something.
LDS'ers are nice, sincere people. LDS church doctrine and theory is anathema to Christians, and has to be refuted. I can use the name of Jesus Christ all day. It doesn't make me a Christian.
Joe Smith was proven a phony. But, too many people have an investment in their future godhood, and hope that the Bible-based Christians are wrong.
Why is it that NONE of those are women?
How can a prophet be proven in error so many times, and still be considered a prophet, much less the holder of the keys to heaven, as your BOM tells you?
“But after all they do love playing the victim.”
Religious tolerance is the only victim here. You’re just going after the Mormon’s first. The rest will surely follow.
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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him! 18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join. 19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.” 20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” |
You KNOW you HAte us; you BIGOT!
Otherwise WHY do you oppose the Restored Gospel® with such vigor?
--MormonDude(I just want to be loved...)
First out of the gate usually wins the race
“I know JUST what you mean!!”
Yep. And this thread is a two-fer. We get to go after Mormons AND gays. I especially love attacking them when they take a morally correct stand. It is so much fun being with the vocal core of folks who get to pass judgment on everyone else. It’s kind of like being God, isn’t it?
HUH??
| To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ... Ping.
3 posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 7:08:20 PM by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
To: Zakeet
I knew it was just a matter of time before the calvary was called to turn any and all things Mormon into another bashing thread. Congratulations. You can disagree with the Church all you want, but they continue to take stands on moral issues, like it or not. |
Check #24.
Just which side tossed out the insult first?
Yup!
OMM will show up and say something loving about Baptists!
“Check #24.
Just which side tossed out the insult first?”
Hey, ping me when you reference my posts! ....and when can you put me on those lists?
The anti-Mormon (and everyone else who might be “different”) crown isn’t very bright. Fortunately for them, the Mormons will feed them after the next disaster. You’ll probably still complain.
So when can we go after the Jews? You know, I’ve heard they COMPLETELY ignore the new testament.
Merely a subset of the bigger SIN set.
I'm sorry you have managed to MISS the important part!!
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....
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(It applies to any LDS members of that Organization® based in SLC; too.)
“OMM will show up and say something loving about Baptists!”
He’s providing good service. As you know, some Baptists are....different. You know what I mean?
We can’t have that, can we?
Yup!
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