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Imus comments about Dallas' Jones cause uproar
ESPN ^ | June 23, 2008

Posted on 06/23/2008 7:14:46 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77

NEW YORK -- Just months after returning to the airwaves with a pledge to mend the wounds caused by his racist and sexist comment about a women's basketball team, Don Imus is again drawing fire for injecting race into his radio show.

During an on-air conversation Monday about the arrests of suspended Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam Jones, Imus asked, "What color is he?"

Told by sports announcer Warner Wolf that Jones, who used to be nicknamed Pacman, is "African-American," Imus responded: "There you go. Now we know."

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dallascowboys; imus; jones; nfl; packman; talkradio
Here's the audio.
1 posted on 06/23/2008 7:14:47 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Fox_Mulder77

As insurance underwriters say, “statistics don’t lie.”


2 posted on 06/23/2008 7:17:35 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Imus needs to tell the idiots to go screw themselves.


3 posted on 06/23/2008 7:18:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: cripplecreek

This time IMUS is 100% correct! Tell it like it is! NO MORE PC! However, the communists are going to screw him and he knows it!


4 posted on 06/23/2008 7:23:35 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Imus could have meant that blacks are more likely to be arrested or otherwise hassled by the police. He should take that position and hold his ground. If he tries to grovel again he is certainly finished.


5 posted on 06/23/2008 7:24:34 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Fox_Mulder77


6 posted on 06/23/2008 7:26:35 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (H2OLY: The chemical formula for holy water.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I’m sorry, what part was offensive now?

They can call me “cracker” and I’m supposed to laugh. But I can’t even mention anything to them without getting in trouble...


7 posted on 06/23/2008 7:26:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Tzimisce
I’m sorry, what part was offensive now?

Well, you know Sharpton is going to milk this for all the money he can get! This is going to be on all MSM news networks and outlets!

8 posted on 06/23/2008 7:29:40 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Fox_Mulder77
If you have to ask such a question, you deserve to get canned. I know it was too good a topic for Imus to avoid getting burned again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 06/23/2008 7:30:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

A downroar. It’s the issue of the day


10 posted on 06/23/2008 7:31:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: yldstrk

National Felony League baby!


11 posted on 06/23/2008 7:33:30 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: cripplecreek

Last year, if Imus (someone whom I regard as a jerk) had said to Al Sharpton,

“SCREW YOU, YOU WORTHLESS RACE BAITER! I AM NOT A RACIST! IF YOU DON’T LIKE MY ATTITUDE, THEN EAT ME!”

I would have then been forced to admit enormous respect.


12 posted on 06/23/2008 7:34:05 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Another gift to McVain from the PC crowd!! OH BOY by the time the black messiah is coroneted king of the world in Denver folk will be SO fed up with this crap the backlash is going to get nasty!! The blacks are OVER playing their cards to the tilt! This victim crap is getting old real quick and their messiah is gonna fall flat on his butt!
13 posted on 06/23/2008 7:35:16 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Tzimisce
They can call me “cracker” and I’m supposed to laugh. But I can’t even mention anything to them without getting in trouble...

I hope finally, finally we grow a pair and stand up to clowns like Sharpton, Jackson, et al along with their guilty white panty waists in the media. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech plain and simple. If you don't like it don't listen. If you want to keep ME from listening then be prepared for counter boycott and counter boycott until we get to the point that we will make any of your targets a wealthy man and the airwaves are full of people who pi$$ you off. If we truly value freedom of speech than this is what we would do. It's a fight worth fighting and we have the numbers so stand up to these racial charlatans.

If we finally grow a pair.

14 posted on 06/23/2008 7:36:55 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Scratch a liberal, find a communist)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
...it's all about THIS summers PC attitude. When it comes to BHO, it's "don't ask,don't tell" all over again
15 posted on 06/23/2008 7:37:48 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I'm thinking that's what he meant because I cannot believe he'd be stupid enough to think he meant otherwise. A better question would have been, "Where did he attend college?" because West Virgina under Rich Rodriquez was Criminals“R”Us.
16 posted on 06/23/2008 7:40:20 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Soliton

Yeah but you are using the white man’s math in those so called statistics. We all know its another trick of the white man to keep the black man down.


17 posted on 06/23/2008 8:53:28 PM PDT by enduserindy (232 years and now we want to blow it?)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Imus speaks the truth. What’s the big deal?


18 posted on 06/23/2008 8:55:08 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: enduserindy

Look how racist google is!

Results 1 - 10 of about 15,800 for “Black athlete” arrested.


19 posted on 06/23/2008 9:12:59 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I’m just a simple minded person. If someone offends...write the sponsers....AND TURN THE DIAL!!!


20 posted on 06/23/2008 9:15:51 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Fox_Mulder77

The PC thing to say would have been, “Is he white?”


21 posted on 06/23/2008 9:31:43 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Fox_Mulder77

We sure are becoming a nation of whiners and wimps who get outraged over any and everything.


22 posted on 06/24/2008 4:46:40 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Hmmmm I still can't figure out what was racist in his statement. I read it and re-read it.

Apparently we are allowed to say "black" anymore. I guess the PC phrase will be "non-caucasian". What an insane nation we live in.

23 posted on 06/24/2008 7:48:51 AM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I have no use for Jackson, Sharpton, et. al. All in all, they have probably done more to harm race relations than Bull Connor ever did.

Having said that, I have no use for Imus either, as a broadcaster or a human being.

It’s a shame these race-hustlers insist on making this cranky old has-been the poster boy for free speech. (Maybe Imus is paying them to boost his ratings!)

I know others don’t share my opinion of Imus. So be it.


24 posted on 06/24/2008 7:48:52 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: DemonDeac

ditto that


25 posted on 06/24/2008 8:56:29 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Soliton

The I-Man tells it like it is.

If you don’t like it, listen to Fat Al Sharpton’s Tawana Brawley-Duke Rape Case-Crown Heights-Freddie’s Fashion Mart, Jew hating race baiting show. Then ESAD.


26 posted on 06/24/2008 9:19:37 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: safetysign
The I-Man tells it like it is.

That's because he is always either drunk or stoned. When he sobers up, he always backtracks and apologizes

27 posted on 06/24/2008 9:21:39 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: cripplecreek
I agree.

We all better stand up and tell these Politically Correct Obama Supporting Race Enablers and Baiter's where the calf sucks before their Hypocrisy consumes us all.

28 posted on 06/24/2008 9:28:37 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I predict Imus will once again grovel and drool all over Sharp-ton’s sweaty feet, begging for forgiveness from the Self Appointed King Of All Blacks.


29 posted on 06/24/2008 9:31:03 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Does anyone but me wonder why the race hustlers never pick on Howard Stern? Could it be that he would be likely to tell them very publicly to go get bent?


30 posted on 06/24/2008 9:38:01 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Fox_Mulder77
What's racist about his remark?

Are’nt better than 75% of prisoners black? So, the odds are on his side for having said what he did.

31 posted on 06/24/2008 1:04:24 PM PDT by GOPologist (Illigitimi non carborundum.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

That, IMO, would be groveling.


32 posted on 06/24/2008 1:06:45 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Imus should tell his critics to stuff it -- even if (or ESPECIALLY IF) he meant exactly what they claim he meant when he made these comments.

Here's a remarkable column by (African-American) Jason Whitlock that was posted on FoxSports.com during the last NFL season . . . and it is directly applicable to the same "Pac-Man" Jones story that Imus was discussing . . .

NFL Truth: Hip-Hop Culture Hurting NFL
by Jason Whitlock

You get one NFL Truth today. Watching Chad Johnson and Larry Johnson undermine their respective head coaches, Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards, on Sunday gave me a singular focus, forced me to contemplate an uncomfortable truth.

Africn-American football players caught up in the rebellion and buffoonery of hip hop culture have given NFL owners and coaches a justifiable reason to whiten their rosters. That will be the legacy left by Chad, Larry and Tank Johnson, Pacman Jones, Terrell Owens, Michael Vick and all the other football bojanglers. In terms of opportunity for American-born black athletes, they're going to leave the game in far worse shape than they found it.

It's already starting to happen. A little-publicized fact is that the Colts and the Patriots — the league's model franchises — are two of the whitest teams in the NFL. If you count rookie receiver Anthony Gonzalez, the Colts opened the season with an NFL-high 24 white players on their 53-man roster. Toss in linebacker Naivote Taulawakeiaho "Freddie" Keiaho and 47 percent of Tony Dungy's defending Super Bowl-champion roster is non-African-American. Bill Belichick's Patriots are nearly as white, boasting a 23-man non-African-American roster, counting linebacker Tiaina "Junior" Seau and backup quarterback Matt Gutierrez.

For some reason, these facts are being ignored by the mainstream media. Could you imagine what would be written and discussed by the media if the Yankees and the Red Sox were chasing World Series titles with 11 African-Americans on their 25-man rosters (45 percent)?

We would be inundated with information and analysis on the social significance. Well, trust me, what is happening with the roster of the Patriots and the Colts and with Roger Goodell's disciplinary crackdown are all socially significant.

Hip hop athletes are being rejected because they're not good for business and, most important, because they don't contribute to a consistent winning environment. Herm Edwards said it best: You play to win the game.

I'm sure when we look up 10 years from now and 50 percent — rather than 70 percent — of NFL rosters are African-American, some Al Sharpton wannabe is going to blame the decline on a white-racist plot.

That bogus charge will ignore our role in our football demise. We are in the process of mishandling the opportunity and freedom earned for us by Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Doug Williams, Mike Singletary, Gale Sayers, Willie Lanier and countless others. And those of us in the media who have rationalized, minimized and racialized every misstep by Vick, Pacman and T.O. have played an equal role in blowing it.

By failing to confront and annihilate the abhorrent cultural norms we have allowed to grab our youth, we have in the grand American scheme sentenced many of them to hell on earth (incarceration), and in the sports/entertainment world we've left them to define us as unreliable, selfish and buffoonish.

I take you to Arrowhead Stadium this past Sunday when two competent and respected black head coaches led the Chiefs and the Bengals in battle, and their efforts were periodically sabotaged by Chad and Larry Johnson, the two players Lewis and Edwards have defended the most.

Football fans are aware of Lewis' love affair with Chad Johnson, the Flavor Flav of the gridiron. Johnson's insistence on conducting a minstrel show during games has long been reluctantly tolerated by Lewis. Johnson, I guess, is just too talented, productive and well-compensated for Lewis to discipline. So Lewis has chosen to enable, going as far as making excuses when Johnson's selfish behavior extended to an alleged locker-room shoving match with coaches (including a swing at Lewis) at halftime of the Bengals' Jan. 8, 2006 playoff loss to the Steelers.

Coming off an 11-5 regular season and having been crowned the toast of Cincinnati, Lewis responded to that Johnson meltdown by vowing to cut the player who leaked the fight information to the media.

Since then, the Bengals have been one of the league's biggest disappointments, finishing 8-8 last season and starting 1-4 this season. Injuries have played a significant role in Cincy's troubles, but so has a lack of on- and off-field discipline and focus. Lewis' coddling of Chad Johnson has destroyed the chemistry that made the Bengals a playoff team in 2005.

On Sunday, with the Bengals trying to rally out of a two-score deficit, Johnson failed to finish a pass route, which contributed to Carson Palmer throwing an interception.

Not to be outdone, Larry Johnson continued his season-long pattern of immature behavior, spiking the football in frustration with 4 minutes to play and the Chiefs attempting to run out the clock. The Bengals were out of timeouts and the spike stopped the clock, giving Cincy one last chance to make a comeback.

Johnson, despite receiving a new $45-million contract, has brooded, pouted and complained all season. He spent the off-season promising to be a leader and has spent the first six weeks of the season spreading locker-room cancer. Edwards-coached teams have traditionally been the least-penalized squads in the NFL. This year's Chiefs are one of the most-penalized squads. Nickel back Benny Sapp drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Sunday, had to be dragged off the field by Donnie Edwards, and was spotted on the sideline arguing with players and coaches.

Race is not the determining factor when it comes to having a good or bad attitude. Culture is.

Hip hop is the dominant culture for black youth. In general, music, especially hip hop music, is rebellious for no good reason other than to make money. Rappers and rockers are not trying to fix problems. They create problems for attention.

That philosophy, attitude and behavior go against everything football coaches stand for. They're in a constant battle to squash rebellion, dissent and second opinions from their players.

You know why Muhammad Ali is/was an icon? Because he rebelled against something meaningful and because he excelled in an individual sport. His rebellion didn't interfere with winning. Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, etc. rebelled with dignity and purpose.

What we're witnessing today are purposeless, selfish acts of buffoonery. Sensible people have grown tired of it. Football people are recognizing it doesn't contribute to a winning environment.

Whether calculated or not, the Patriots and the Colts have created settings in which Brady and Manning can lead and feel comfortable. I remember back in the 1980s when some black sports fans accused the Celtics of being racist for having a predominantly-white roster when Larry Bird was the star. No one remembered that Red Auerbach occasionally fielded an all-black starting lineup during Bill Russell's heyday.

My point is that it makes sense to cater to your stars. And it makes even more sense to fill your roster with players who don't mind being led, even if you sacrifice a little 40-yard dash speed.

If things don't change quickly, we're going to learn this lesson the hard way.

33 posted on 06/24/2008 2:15:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: GOPologist

The problem is that he is arguing that that is not what he meant. Are the odds still for his side?:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIxwtWUx29jRyCtPa13npGFSEyogD91G4V1O0

And the actual number is near 50%.


34 posted on 06/25/2008 1:49:08 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: oldvike

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIxwtWUx29jRyCtPa13npGFSEyogD91G4V1O0

“I meant that he was being picked on because he’s black,” Imus said in a statement released by his spokesman.


35 posted on 06/25/2008 1:51:58 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: Shade2
“I meant that he was being picked on because he’s black,” Imus said in a statement released by his spokesman.

Oh geez, don't insult my intelligence, Don.

36 posted on 06/25/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Shade2

Listened a bit to his reasoning and laughed my arse off at the explanations and his spin.


37 posted on 06/26/2008 7:56:43 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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