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General Motors Plans to Raise Prices, Cut Production (Greens and Unions destroying US Automakers)
Fox Business ^ | 6/24/2008 | Fox News

Posted on 06/24/2008 8:16:02 AM PDT by tobyhill

DETROIT -- General Motors Corp. told dealers Monday it plans to raise prices on 2009 models by an average of 3.5% despite a tough market that is forcing the automaker to cut production and discount its 2008 models.

Company officials said in conference calls to dealers that the increases will allow GM to recover only part of the rising cost of steel and other commodities and the cost of safety and other features on the new models. The increases will amount to about $1,000 per vehicle.

GM already had increased the prices of its 2008 model year vehicles twice because of rising commodity costs, spokesman John McDonald said. The move comes a little more than a week after Chrysler LLC announced a 2 percent increase in the price of its remaining 2008 vehicles.

GM also said Monday it will run a sale June 24-30 to help clear out high inventories of 2008 pickups, sport utility vehicles and larger cars. The sale includes zero percent financing for up to 72 months.

U.S. auto sales were down 8 percent through May due to the weak economy, low consumer confidence and high gas prices, but sales of trucks and SUVs have fallen even more sharply. Sales of the Chevrolet Silverado large pickup were down 26 percent through May, while sales of the Chevrolet Tahoe large SUV fell 30 percent.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; economy; generalmotors; greens; manufacturing; oil; transportation; unions
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1 posted on 06/24/2008 8:16:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

LOL people still buy this crap?


2 posted on 06/24/2008 8:16:58 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: tobyhill

Sales are down so what do you do? Raise prices! That’s the ticket!


3 posted on 06/24/2008 8:17:30 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

That last vehicle that GM makes is going to cost a fortune!


4 posted on 06/24/2008 8:19:25 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

GM has never been accused of being too smart.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 8:19:46 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Portcall24

The GM is going in the way of AMC.


6 posted on 06/24/2008 8:20:49 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Damn! Who’s running the auto industry? The newspaper industry?........


7 posted on 06/24/2008 8:21:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: tobyhill

Gane set and match goes to automakes like Toyota, Nissan, Honda.


8 posted on 06/24/2008 8:21:59 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: tobyhill

No kidding. They need to pare down their model offerings. I mean, they STILL sell (or try to sell) corporate twin cars - Cobalt/G5, Impala/Bonneville,for example.


9 posted on 06/24/2008 8:22:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pnh102

All quality surveys and scientific measurements indicate that GM is making a quality car and that the gap with the Japanese is mostly perception, but most of their “profit” is still going to payouts and legacy expenses.

I’d buy a GM car any day if the price were right.


10 posted on 06/24/2008 8:23:25 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Portcall24

They must be Demokratz. Revenues are down, so raising the prices/taxes is the only alternative they can think of.........


11 posted on 06/24/2008 8:24:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: Spktyr

They should drop Pontiac altogether.
Same frame, same engine, but tons of added plastic trimming (and red lighting).

The Chevy line is pretty attractive, now that the Cavalier is finally gone in favor of the Cobalt.


12 posted on 06/24/2008 8:24:49 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Their initial quality is pretty close to the Japanese... but their long term quality, especially on UAW-built models, is still bad and their customer service is just awful.

Also, JD Powers is suspect as a rating/survey system since they stopped allowing peer review of the data a number of years back.


13 posted on 06/24/2008 8:25:32 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pnh102
Just yesterday on the way to the gym, there was an advertisement from GM on an AM Radio station touting ethanol over drilling for oil, and that their new line of cars would be Eco friendly.

...I guess the part about the $1000.00 price increase was purposely left out to guilt trip Americans into hugging more trees.

14 posted on 06/24/2008 8:25:35 AM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I’d buy another GM vehicle if they could shed themselves of the UAW. Only way I see that as possible is bankruptcy & reorganizations.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 8:26:31 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: SJSAMPLE

Actually, they *should* kill Pontiac, but they need to transition two models over to another brand - the G8 and the Solstice.

The upcoming GTO could be rebadged as a Chevelle.


16 posted on 06/24/2008 8:26:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Or alternately, rebadge the G8 as the Buick Park Avenue (which they already do in China) and rebadge the GTO/Monaro as the Buick Regal - which is what it *really* should have been.


17 posted on 06/24/2008 8:28:37 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Or keep the Pontiac badge just for specialty models, like the GTO.

What is the new platform for the revised GTO?
Another Holden or something American?


18 posted on 06/24/2008 8:28:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

I have never had a problem with my Pontiac but when I went to look for another vehicle I saw that the foreign vehicles had better warranties, more features and lower prices.


19 posted on 06/24/2008 8:29:04 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: SJSAMPLE

It’s a Holden again, the next-gen Monaro. Same thing with the G8, it’s a Holden.

We don’t have any good RWD sedan engineers left at GM USA, save for the Cadillac guys. The new CTS is *amazing*.


20 posted on 06/24/2008 8:31:19 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tobyhill
[GM] Jobs bank programs -- 12,000 paid not to work (10/17/05)
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0510/17/A01-351179.htm
21 posted on 06/24/2008 8:31:23 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Spktyr

GM intends to protect the Chevrolet brand and the Cadillac brand. Everything else can go.


22 posted on 06/24/2008 8:31:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: T Lady
It's interesting you brought that up because GM was the first to build the Flex-Fuel but even that didn't seem to save them.
23 posted on 06/24/2008 8:31:49 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

I’ve been pinning my hopes on the Chevy Volt for my 40 mile a day commute but they keep moving the production date back and the price up. They were talking 30k when they announced it but now they are looking at 50k. 50k will buy a whole lot of $5.00 gas for my ‘94 S10.


24 posted on 06/24/2008 8:33:13 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: RightWhale

And should. There is NOTHING in Buick’s US lineup right now that’s worth saving, for example.


25 posted on 06/24/2008 8:33:18 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

The CTS is FANTASTIC.

But, for the life of me, I cannot figure out why anybody would pay $100K for a Corvette with an ugly Cadillac body. The XLR is just atrocious.


26 posted on 06/24/2008 8:34:00 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Have you driven the XLR?

It’s a Corvette with a *real* interior, not something lifted from the Impala. Though at least this year you can get *real* leather in the Corvette with an interior materials upgrade option. I rather like it.


27 posted on 06/24/2008 8:36:11 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
They're closing the Arlington Plant for 4 weeks and then 1 week out of every month till they get their inventory removed. I drove by the plant the other day which builds SUVs and Trucks and I have never seen their inventory so stacked before. There's a huge field next to the RR Tracks that has never had a vehicle on it but this time it was bumper to bumper with off the line vehicles.
28 posted on 06/24/2008 8:36:49 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
Unions are on the verge of destroying America. You cant get rid of inept worker,teacher,policemen or as a matter of fact any government employee. Now the Unions wish to be able to watch people as they vote and see who they vote for so they can intimidate them. Old Lenin would be proud of America today and he may even vote for Obama.
29 posted on 06/24/2008 8:38:06 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: tobyhill

30 posted on 06/24/2008 8:39:49 AM PDT by BGHater ("Save water, shower with a friend")
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To: Spktyr

Bonneville? They stopped producing the Bonneville in 05.


31 posted on 06/24/2008 8:41:03 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: tobyhill
Right.

...And as you so astutely point out in the title of the thread, the US Automakers and the Greens are doing everything they can to destroy this industry. It's even scarier to hear people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh touting Green friendly products.

Don't get me wrong; it's not that I have anything against keeping our air and land clean, but the Greens don't employ any common sense measures to do so.

32 posted on 06/24/2008 8:41:03 AM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: 1Old Pro

Hate to tell you this, but this past month we’ve picked up crated machinery to be shipped BACK to Japan at Toyota (KY) and Honda (OH).
(Cap and trade, carbon tax, anyone? Buehler? Buehler? Buehler?)


33 posted on 06/24/2008 8:41:22 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: T Lady

I meant to say the Unions.


34 posted on 06/24/2008 8:42:22 AM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: SJSAMPLE

A lot of GM woes can be traced to their bad union contracts, mostly involving health care. Take a look at the demographic coming out of a GM plant at closing time. Ask yourself: Would I want to underwrite the health care for this bunch?

That’s before you add in the “retirees,” who outnumber the workers supporting them by about 3 to 1.


35 posted on 06/24/2008 8:43:19 AM PDT by henkster (Politics is the art of telling a bigger and more believable lie more often than your opponent)
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To: Spktyr
Actually, they *should* kill Pontiac, but they need to transition two models over to another brand - the G8 and the Solstice.

The Solstice is the same as the Saturn Sky. The Sky was actually in development first, although the Solstice hit the market first.


36 posted on 06/24/2008 8:44:22 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: al_c

Okay, so I missed the demise of an utterly forgettable automobile. Blah.

Then I retract that pairing and use another - Tahoe/Yukon.


37 posted on 06/24/2008 8:44:32 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tobyhill

It’s not so much Greens and Unions as it is just plain old crappy design. Since 1991 I have gone out looking to buy an American car every time me or a family member needed a new one. I wanted to buy an American car. What I have wound up with are Honda, Mercedes, Subaru and Audi. I may try one of those Chrysler 300 but if experience holds true I’ll buy a foreign car. I buy big sturdy cars for cash and keep them, on average, 9 to 11 years and put 150,000-200,000 miles on them and most American cars are not designed for that type of service.


38 posted on 06/24/2008 8:45:35 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: al_c

They’re not *quite* the same, the Solstice is cheaper and starts off stripped. The Sky is better equipped and has a much much better interior - but it costs more, too. They also don’t drive quite the same.

The Solstice would fit right in to the Chevy lineup below the Vette.


39 posted on 06/24/2008 8:46:39 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
They’re not *quite* the same, the Solstice is cheaper and starts off stripped.

Now you're just being picky. ;o)

40 posted on 06/24/2008 8:47:51 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: tobyhill

Just like the tv commercial...we can’t improve the product but we can increase the price.


41 posted on 06/24/2008 8:51:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: al_c

Not really, the Sky may share platforms, but the car is actually quite different. It’s like the Corvette/XLR pairing - not twins at all.


42 posted on 06/24/2008 8:52:21 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: atomic_dog
Base price for the Chevy Aveo is $10,895 while the base price for the Hyundai Accent is $10,775. All this is with same features and warranty. The problem for the Chevy is the name and now the new problem is that they are going to increase the price by $1,000. GM is on a suicide mission.
43 posted on 06/24/2008 8:53:10 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Not quite. The Hyundai has the 10/100 warranty, GM’s is still 5/100.

I can do 100K in 5 years, but I drive a lot. Most people can’t. The interesting thing is that GM matched the *mileage* but not the *time* of the Hyundai warranty - which tells me that they don’t want to pay the repair costs when their vehicles start falling apart in 5 years and 1 day.


44 posted on 06/24/2008 8:55:49 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tobyhill
"will allow GM to recover only part of the rising cost of steel"

Gotta srop them Chinese and Indians from wanting/driving cars like us!!! ( See article in FT and WSJ saying Chinese have agreed to pay a 96% increase for iron ore etc etc from Evil Mining Companies!!)

45 posted on 06/24/2008 8:56:49 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: tobyhill

Every liberal I have ever known drives Jap or Kraut cars, while I drive American. liberals want to save the unions, but they fail to put their money where their mouth is.


46 posted on 06/24/2008 8:58:15 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: Spktyr

You’re right and never looked at it that way. I don’t put 100,000 miles in 5 years, maybe 8 years, so that would be a factor that should be looked at.


47 posted on 06/24/2008 8:58:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Spktyr

I thought the new GTO was going to the new Camaro with a front clip change? Since the Firebird/Trans Am was said to be a no.


48 posted on 06/24/2008 9:05:59 AM PDT by doodad
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To: tobyhill
If I only worked a couple of blocks away, I could afford to drive this one. Regardless, it is paid for and it stays.

49 posted on 06/24/2008 9:07:26 AM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: tobyhill
I'm now retired so my income is pretty much fixed for life. The last new car I bought was in 1995 which I still own and if I'm smart, I'll pay to have the rust repaired on it and keep it for a while longer.

Every year the costs of cars keep rising and with the number of boomers retiring increasing, I don't see a very optimistic future for increasing sales in the auto industry like they have thru the 90's and 2000's. I think the only thing that saved the auto companies was the invention of the leased car agreements but ultimately thats flooded the used car market.....

50 posted on 06/24/2008 9:07:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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