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Posted on 06/24/2008 11:31:13 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
The Supreme Court’s decision to allow the Bush Administration to proceed with a 670-mile fence along our Southwestern border is a welcome step that should have been taken years ago. The environmentalists and other left-wingers who opposed the fence were more concerned about interrupting the mating habits of two types of wildcats rather than protecting the nature and character (not to mention laws) of their own country.
This debate has never been about...the environment. It has been about importing votes. Liberal Democrats have not been able to win consistently with native-born Americans and legal immigrants and so are importing votes and creating a new class of people dependent on them.
Time magazine has a cover story this week titled “The Great Wall of America: A billion-dollar barrier is going up between the U.S. and Mexico. It’s reducing illegal immigration — but does America really need to wall itself off?”
The fence isn’t about walling us off. It is about protecting us against an invasion by hordes of people who burden our education and health system, commit crimes and have difficulty assimilating. They also drive down wages, making it difficult for law-abiding, legal citizens to compete. No nation can survive if it is unable, or unwilling, to control its borders. We are losing what has made us the greatest nation on earth. A border fence (and it needs to extend across the entire border) will allow us to deal with those already here illegally, to possibly give them citizenship under certain conditions and then to fully assimilate them into our culture, history and language. To do otherwise is to further divide and hyphenate us instead of making us one.
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“The environmentalists and other left-wingers who opposed the fence were more concerned about interrupting the mating habits of two types of wildcats rather than protecting the nature and character (not to mention laws) of their own country.”
I have concluded that all the fringe groups that claim this stuff are in great part funded by entities/countries with far more pragmatic goals. In this case, everyone in favor of open borders for economic and political reasons is suspect.
Anyone who believes American should not "wall itself off" should be prohibited from having locking doors and windows on their house/apartment.
For now, a fence would serve the purpose of keeping out illegals. But, once Obomba is installed with a 'rat congress and courts, the US will evolve into a place where the fence will help keep us taxpayers in, rather than keep the taxloafers out. THEN, these 'rat groups would be very happy they supported putting up this fence.
WELL SAID.
For example, Javier Miguel Ramirez, 35, was sentenced yesterday to 87 months in prison for using a 14-year-old girl as prostitution and sex slave, with 25 or more clients per day. The Washington Times, which has been good about reporting on illegal aliens, nevertheless failed to noted that Ramirez was an illegal alien from Mexico. I read this in The Examiner, a free paper, website dcexaminer.com
I’m for the whole fence I jus worry that it might become our Maginot line. If it ever does get built then what we assume that it is going work always?
Actually, the media do indirectly report the immigration status of suspects and criminals.
If they are in the country legally, that’s generallly pointed out.
If the immigration status is not mentioned, that means the miscreant is in the country illegally.
Most people, however, haven’t figured that out.
“If it ever does get built then what we assume that it is going work always?”
OK, I’ll bite.
Are you asking whether the fence will have to be monitored—that we may not be able to count on our neighbors to the south coming upon the fence and saying, “Dios mio—a fence! The Americans must want us to go through the check-points. But we don’t have passports, so I guess we’ll all have to turn around and go home... “.
Am I close understanding?
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But the Mexicans aren’t the Germans, and we aren’t French.
At least not here on Free Republic.
Cal Thomas is rght on the money. The left looks at Mexicans as the new black race. It’s another large group of votes to be purchased with the taxdollars of those who work and pay their own way. Charming.
I don’t know how many times I’ve said this, but here goes.
They will never build the fence until we are trying to escape the mess they created.
Then they will build it to keep us in!
The weakness of the Maginot Line was that the wascally Germans could just go around it.
Our fence is supposed to go from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico.
If built properly, it will be impractical for large numbers of people to go around it.
mark for later
So even with that weak elmer u still picked it up...damn 70’s kid I’m guessing
Oh BTW does Clovis ring a bell? what about melrose, house etc..
I think a fence would slow the flow some of people coming over here looking for work, but people who are highly motivated to get over here will figure out how to do it. Expensive contraband like drugs will still come over. There are billions of dollars to be made in the drug trade. With so much money at stake the bad guys will always figure out how to get those drugs into this country, over the fence, under the fence, through the fence and/or around it.
Personally I'm okay with just building sections of fence where people are coming over the most and funneling the traffic into more easily monitored areas. Then we don't have to have the whole Berlin Wall. Wild animals will still be able to find their way through, but we could make it substantially more difficult for migrant workers trying to get through and will hopefully deter a good bit of that. No amount of fencing would stop it all.
Sometimes I do wonder if the fence, if ever built, could be used to keep us in. But I guess it’d be a moot point by then.
Don't fall for the rhetoric. The fence is needed immediately. I live in California and the number of illegal crossings between the USA and Mexico is 1 million per year. You heard me -- 1 million. The net growth is 350,000 per year. That means that 650,000 of those crossings are by repeat offenders.
A wall will stop 90% of these crossings, if not 100%. It will then become reeeeal expensive to get into the USA illegally.
Don't believe that idiotic line that, "if you build a wall, then someone will build a taller ladder." First, something is better than nothing. At places the border is demarcated by nothing. Second, the wall has worked in Israel. Suicide bombings by Palestians have basically stopped since the intifada of 2002-04. Yes, the leftists whine about it -- and admittedly it is ugly, and a scar on the landscape -- but it WORKS. If the Palis and liberals don't like it, then they should have stopped their misbehavior by themselves.
I'm definitely in favor of walls. Some examples from Israel:
The fence isn't about walling us off. It is about protecting us against an invasion by hordes of people who burden our education and health system, commit crimes and have difficulty assimilating. They also drive down wages, making it difficult for law-abiding, legal citizens to compete. No nation can survive if it is unable, or unwilling, to control its borders.And if the illegals think we're getting tough with them, just wait until their apparent advocates on the left seize power in a violent overthrow of our country and Constitution.
If fences don’t work, why is there one around the White House?
Cause they’re Speeeshul ?...
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