Posted on 06/24/2008 3:08:57 PM PDT by Alouette
Did Hitler's crimes justify the Allies' terror-bombing of Germany?
Indeed they did, answers Christopher Hitchens in his Newsweek response to my new book, "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War": "The stark evidence of the Final Solution has ever since been enough to dispel most doubts about, say, the wisdom or morality of carpet-bombing German cities."
Atheist, Trotskyite and newborn neocon, Hitchens embraces the morality of lex talionis: an eye for an eye. If Germans murdered women and children, the British were morally justified in killing German women and children.
According to British historians, however, Churchill ordered the initial bombing of German cities on his first day in office, the very first day of the Battle of France, on May 10, 1940.
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In case anyone is interested in Churchill as a terrorist bomber revisionism.
As an aside, the first German bombing of England was a bit earlier, January 19, 1915, from a Zepplin. But no matter, Churchill was the WWII villan.
This clown was once lauded as the moral voice of the Republican Party. Fair to say those who looked at the GOP as a bunch of loons had something to base their mistaken opinion on.
A snap of the heels to the Pat fans.
PS-A shame GWB isn't a modern day Churchill, but it's fair to say the US sucks to this day by Pat standards. We kill civilians just like Churchill and FDR did. Kind Adolph, he did nothing other than retaliate.
Pardon me while I vomit.
As far as bombing cities, Pat didn’t start the debate. Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki ring a bell? We shouldn’t second guess the people of that era, but that doesn’t mean we should forget what was done. Even now, military strategists debate the necessity of the Dresden bombing and whether such acts are ever justified. That’s a healthy debate IMHO.
Pat also makes some good points about the Soviets. We formed an alliance with Stalin, an evil dictator on par with Hitler. In the process, we sacrificed the freedom of hundreds of millions of people in Eastern Europe. What we did may have been necessary to defeat Hitler, but it resulted in something less than a great victory for western civilization.
Pat is engaged in an intellectual exercise of discussing what ifs. What’s so wrong about that? Could we have stopped Hitler earlier without resorting to a world war? Probably. Hindsight is 20/20.
As long as Buchanan is still spouting in public, "liberals" can say "See. See. That's what conservatices are really like. Pathetic.
Congressman Billybob
“How come Pat does not mention the Nazi bombing of Rotterdam and Warsaw?”
That was Churchill’s fault, somehow.
Pat is used by the MSM to paint the false picture of Conservatives as Nazis.
We should not permit that. This little Nazi does not speak for us.
This is not a logical, new analysis. It is lies based on lies.
John / Billybob
Depends on whether he still cares about current politics and wants to have credibility as a commentator.
Getting a reputation for publishing things like this week after week means his opinions about other things aren't going to be given credence by most people.
Most columnists have a way of raising interesting issues without appearing obsessed by them, but right now Pat isn't showing that talent.
Pat did a lot to bring the problems of mass immigration into the political conversation, when "mainstream" or "movement" conservatives and neocons weren't interested.
But if he keeps this up he's going to be seen as the man who helped drive that debate back underground.
elmer fudd: “When the existence of your country and your people are on the line you don’t play by Marquis of Queensbury rules.”
War is not simply about destroying the enemy. War is about achieving your nation’s objectives at least cost. If playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules achieves those objectives, you play by the rules.
Another Freep thread that ignores the fact that Communist Genocide gave rise to Hitler.
http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/tapes/meet_again.html
Listen to Rush Limbaugh... :) ...You'll see the danger of the whole "what if" thing, and making big decisions on "wacky" "what ifs"
Congressman Billybob: “Murder of the Jews (and other “undesirables”) by the hundreds of thousands, took place BEFORE his magic date of when the Final Solution was officially put in place.”
Agreed. It’s not so much that I support his entire analysis. It’s more that I think he makes a few good points. Could the war have been averted? Could Britain have saved its empire? Was the Yalta Conference a terrible mistake, an unfortunate necessity, or a grand strategy? Were the attacks on civilians justified? All good questions I think.
SJackson: “We kill civilians just like Churchill and FDR did.”
Actually, WWII helped shape the Laws of Armed Conflict. The three LOAC principles are military necessity, distinction, and proportionality.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/loac.htm
We do not intentionally target civilians. That would be a war crime. I’m no military lawyer, but I wonder if FDR and Churchill would be considered war criminals by today’s LOAC. For example, the British nighttime bombings were incredibly inaccurate and almost certainly not able to achieve their military objectives (destruction of factories, some of minimal value to the war effort). Did this violate military necessity and proportionality? Perhaps.
For later read.
I hope Pat gets a good health screen soon.
Terror bombing didn’t work. German industrial output continued to increase until the Ruhr was over ran.
It did however mess up the logistics.
I am so sick of Pat Buchanon and his thinly-veiled Nazi support.
Pat has gone beyond annoying or worth arguing about, and needs a good solid ass-kicking.
I despise him, and I despise the Enemedia for propping up this asshole as a “conservative” voice. He’s not a conservative. He’s a Nazi.
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