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Cities will pay a heavy price if handgun ban is overturned (BARF ALERT)
ajc.com ^ | 06/23/08 | Shirley Franklin

Posted on 06/25/2008 10:09:19 AM PDT by Havok

The U.S. Supreme Court will soon rule on whether Washington, D.C.'s decades-old handgun ban is constitutional.

It's been nearly 70 years since the high court has heard a firearms case that tests the scope of the Second Amendment. The outcome of this one, D.C. v. Heller, will have extraordinary implications —- not just for the District, but for the ability of cities to respond effectively to gun violence.

If more evidence is needed that the stakes could not be higher, a steady drumbeat of headlines is supplying it. In the first few days of March alone, just before the justices heard oral argument in the case, three kids were killed and five more wounded in Chicago. And in West Palm Beach, Fla., a gunman killed an off-duty firefighter and wounded five others before turning his gun on himself.

Elected officials and law enforcement in those areas have a lot riding on the court's decision. The case stems from a lower-court ruling that D.C.'s ban violated the Constitution. Breaking with decades of Supreme Court precedent and hundreds of lower-court decisions, a federal appeals court held for the first time that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms not related to service in a "well-regulated militia."

If the justices agree with the lower court's ruling, cities and states throughout the country may face challenge after challenge to the constitutionality of firearm regulations enacted to protect the public and prosecute criminals. And city attorneys may find themselves spending as much time fighting lawsuits as they do fighting crime.

Those resource-draining challenges would come at an inconvenient time. Gun violence is a national crisis, but one that disproportionately affects those of us who live in urban areas. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, more than 340,000 homicides were committed in large American cities between 1976 and 2005. About 64 percent of those homicides involved firearms.

Very often, it's our first responders who pay the harshest price. In the decades between 1976 and 2006, more than 2,251 law enforcement officers were killed in the line of duty —- more them 90 percent of them by firearms.

The problems are obvious —- and they do have solutions, some of which are already being implemented around the nation. A decision from on high that limited our authority to craft local solutions would be yet another tragedy. Different gun laws make sense in different areas. Community leaders are plainly in the best position to determine the policies needed to curb the crime, fear and disorder that gun violence creates in each city —- not a special interest lobby and gun industry more concerned about dollars than lives.

It's the nation's mayors who get the call from police when a shooting occurs. It's the local leaders who comfort the families of gunshot victims, who walk with police and residents on the neighborhood beat, who meet with block watch groups and who grapple with the demanding budget ramifications of violent crime. For those very reasons, policies affecting guns and community safety historically have been —- and should be —- made at the local level.

And when communities have the authority to enact regulations that respond to local needs, they're often aggressive and successful. New York City has experienced a dramatic decline in crimes involving firearms after tailoring creative local regulation to curb gun violence. The city of Oakland, Calif., prohibits firearms dealers from selling ultra-compact (and easily concealable) handguns. Washington, D.C.'s handgun restrictions have led to one of the lowest suicide rates in the nation. And Chicago, like the District, bans the possession of handguns.

For the sake and the safety of all Americans, let's hope the Supreme Court will allow local leaders and law enforcement the tools they need to do their jobs.

> Shirley Franklin is mayor of Atlanta. Contributing to this column were: Tom Barrett, mayor of Milwaukee; Manuel A. Diaz, mayor of Miami; Gavin Newsom, mayor of San Francisco; Greg Nickels, mayor of Seattle; and Douglas H. Palmer, mayor of Trenton, N.J.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; dcgunban; democrats; elections; guncontrol; gunfreezones; heller; liberals; parker; scotus; secondamendment; supremecourt
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I cannot wait for the ruling on this. This lady is a jack off.
1 posted on 06/25/2008 10:09:21 AM PDT by Havok
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To: Havok; Joe Brower

2 posted on 06/25/2008 10:13:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Havok
Washington, D.C.'s handgun restrictions have led to one of the lowest suicide rates in the nation.

She neglects to mention that it also has one of the highest homicide rates in the nation.

3 posted on 06/25/2008 10:13:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Havok

add her name to “the list” - henry bowman


4 posted on 06/25/2008 10:13:49 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Havok
Breaking with decades of Supreme Court precedent and hundreds of lower-court decisions, a federal appeals court held for the first time that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms not related to service in a "well-regulated militia."

BS

5 posted on 06/25/2008 10:16:07 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Havok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Franklin

(paraphrasing from the article)
Shirley Clarke Franklin (born May 10, 1945) is an American politician, a member of the Democratic Party, since January 7, 2002, the mayor of Atlanta, Georgia, a nonpartisan office (sure it is) and a knee-jerk, liberal jack-off.


6 posted on 06/25/2008 10:18:01 AM PDT by tumblindice ("They can point the way, we'll point the guns." Johnny Got His Gun, Dalton Trumbo (paraphrasing))
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To: Havok
If the justices agree with the lower court's ruling, cities and states throughout the country may face challenge after challenge to the constitutionality of firearm regulations enacted to protect the public and prosecute criminals.

How exactly does turning law abiding folks into disarmed victims protect anyone?

People like this need to be returned to 1st Grade. They obviously missed something along the way through the publik edgeukshun cystim.

7 posted on 06/25/2008 10:21:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Travis McGee

Shirley Franklin is mayor of Atlanta. Contributing to this column were: Tom Barrett, mayor of Milwaukee; Manuel A. Diaz, mayor of Miami; Gavin Newsom, mayor of San Francisco; Greg Nickels, mayor of Seattle; and Douglas H. Palmer, mayor of Trenton, N.J.

All Commie Shills.


8 posted on 06/25/2008 10:24:28 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: DCBryan1

Paging Harold Krassny. Please pick up the Blue courtesy phone.


9 posted on 06/25/2008 10:25:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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"Gun violence...disproportionately affects those of us who live in urban areas."

Uh, that's kinda the point in allowing those types to protect themselves as the police obviously can't.

10 posted on 06/25/2008 10:25:26 AM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: Havok

The gun ban types continually ignore the fact that criminals carry w/ or w/o a ban. These bans mostly effect only those who would do the right thing in the first place. How does that protect society or reduce crime? The only thing this SC ruling may do is level the playing field and in the process reduce crime. The gun ban types are running out of objections b/c as each barrier is removed for the law abiding their predictions of doom, rivers of blood etc come to nothing.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 10:27:19 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Havok

Inasmuch as this woman is incapable of balancing the books in Atlanta, we can be sure that she applied the same rigorous standards of reason to THIS essay.

And I suspect you’ll soon be getting flames from genuine jackoffs protesting the characterization and comparison to this idiot.


12 posted on 06/25/2008 10:28:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Havok

With the recent spate of 5-4 decisions coming down from this Supreme Court, I’m not optimistic about tomorrow’s ruling. I’m almost afraid to turn on the radio tomorrow.


13 posted on 06/25/2008 10:29:02 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Havok

A certain subset of the residents of big cities will “pay a heavy price”, but just think of the huge savings to the taxpayers, when the perps are dead instead of watching cable TV, working out, and eating 3 square meals a day in prison, and then soaking up some more taxpayer dollars in the form of parole officers and vocational training programs, until the perps get caught and convicted and imprisoned again . . .


14 posted on 06/25/2008 10:29:12 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: 556x45
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15 posted on 06/25/2008 10:30:22 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: DuncanWaring

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16 posted on 06/25/2008 10:31:57 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: 556x45

I know it’s a cliche, but it’s so true, namely, that if you outlaw guns, then only the outlaws will have guns. And it’s so true that the criminal element ignores all of the gun control laws on the books anyway. Horrific criminals such as the Columbine and Virginia Tech shooters were each in violation of numerous gun laws when they committed their crimes. The criminals don’t care what laws they violate.


17 posted on 06/25/2008 10:32:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Havok

Criminals will pay a heavy price if handgun ban is overturned.

This is what they are afraid of.

That, and people getting too used to the idea of taking care of themselves instead of relying on “the village”.


18 posted on 06/25/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Havok

Yeah. A lot Democrat constituents might lose their primary revenue source. True disaster.


19 posted on 06/25/2008 10:33:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Havok
And city attorneys may find themselves spending as much time fighting lawsuits as they do fighting crime

Hey Shirley, you moron, you already DO spend more time doing this because this city's brand of 'fighting crime' is gunning down 93 year old grandmothers in botched no-knock raids based on falsified evidence.

I guess we can see why you'd be opposed to citizens being able to legally arm themselves.
20 posted on 06/25/2008 10:39:00 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: murron

I hear that. The way these cases are turning out it looks like the US is about to burn.
Good think I got all my security squared away.


21 posted on 06/25/2008 10:40:26 AM PDT by Havok (MOLON LABE!!!!)
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To: Havok
It is more dangerous to be in a gun control city than in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heavy price will be that the police will have to do their job without trampling the rights of the Innocent.
22 posted on 06/25/2008 10:45:02 AM PDT by mountainlion
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To: Havok

There is only one way to interpret her views. She supports the right of criminals to not be challenged while committing a crime.


23 posted on 06/25/2008 10:45:31 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Obama is the feces created when shame eats too much stupidity.)
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To: Havok

The Constitution wasn’t written to protect the cities, or their treasuries.


24 posted on 06/25/2008 10:46:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Havok

Notice how they have to use 29 years of numbers to pump them up. Why do they use 1976? This is when a lot of gun laws started to show up in the USA. All this shows is that gun laws increase crimes and murder because the victims could not defend themselves.
So this is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Gun laws increased murder rates, which are used as a reason for more stringent gun laws.


25 posted on 06/25/2008 10:47:28 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If in their socialist push for ever more malum prohibitum laws they make me a felon, then may their Gods have mercy on them. For no one else will...
26 posted on 06/25/2008 10:55:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Exton1

Politicians gain NOTHING from a problem solved.


27 posted on 06/25/2008 10:56:30 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

This false connection was a cover story in TIME magazine about 25 years ago. It was the last time I picked up a copy of TIME.


28 posted on 06/25/2008 11:03:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Travis McGee
We've heard this crap before. They've said this same thing about "assault weapons"....that IF they're allowed, that blood will run in the streets. They sound like the damned islamic extremists.

Statistically, it's past any point of even trying to argue that population centers which are armed have lower gun crime rates, and lower violent crime rates. The information if freely available from the FBI's own uniform crime reports, among other places. England is probably the best place for a "success story" of what happens when you totally ban public ownership of handguns. They created the perfect defenseless situation for criminals, not to mention the black markets for moving handguns. Gun crime went way, WAY up in the 36 months following that ban, and from what I understand (I'll have to check), it's still up. So go figure! If it failed for them, then why even try it here? Yeah...we all know the answer to that one. :-)


29 posted on 06/25/2008 11:08:27 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Dead Corpse
Gun Control
30 posted on 06/25/2008 11:10:37 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Havok
"Washington, D.C.'s handgun restrictions have led to one of the lowest suicide rates in the nation."

My favorite part of the article. Even if this is true (which I doubt coming from a liberal) does this little stat offset the fact that they are one of the murder capitals of the country?
31 posted on 06/25/2008 11:12:15 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: hiredhand

Mr. Volk does some awesome work. Always to the point too...


32 posted on 06/25/2008 11:13:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Havok
Cities will pay a heavy price if handgun ban is overturned

Oh, so there will be even *more* murders in Philadelphia and Camden? I don't think that's possible without an actual shooting war going on.
33 posted on 06/25/2008 11:16:04 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I agree. I’m adding more of his work to my collection NOW. Dial-up users will hate me for this....eventually. :-)


34 posted on 06/25/2008 11:17:54 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: murron
“With the recent spate of 5-4 decisions coming down from this Supreme Court, I’m not optimistic about tomorrow’s ruling. I’m almost afraid to turn on the radio tomorrow.”

Yep, I am not optimistic either. I consider it a bad omen that the Supreme’s ruling has been put off for another day. It's my guess that the split is 4 to 4 with the gadfly Kennedy's vote still up in the air and there's probably some sort of compromise being concocted. It's hard to believe that he is a Reagan appointment. But anyway, I am afraid we are at the Mercy of Justice Kennedy...

35 posted on 06/25/2008 11:18:00 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: Niteranger68; Havok
She supports the right of criminals to not be challenged while committing a crime.

The right of a criminal shall not be infringed while committing a crime.

36 posted on 06/25/2008 11:23:07 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: Havok
When you are convinced that what is black is really white, this is what happens.

However, I do tend to agree with this part of the article,

"And city attorneys may find themselves spending as much time fighting lawsuits as they do fighting crime."

I might even pay for some of the legal fees myself.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

37 posted on 06/25/2008 11:33:44 AM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Havok

Hmm...yeah, I remember this sort of story from the time when certain states were considering “shall-issue” CCW permits. “Blood in the streets,” “wild west,” “OK Corral,” “road rage carnage,” etc, etc - good grief, I could write their own copy for them in my sleep. And it never happened.


38 posted on 06/25/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dick Bachert
"...The sign over the beautiful wrought iron gate declares: “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED!"...

Not quite. The sign states that "work makes you free".

39 posted on 06/25/2008 11:37:34 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Havok
If more evidence is needed that the stakes could not be higher, a steady drumbeat of headlines is supplying it.

Only in the biased liberal journalist's little mind are headlines written by the same now "evidence".

40 posted on 06/25/2008 11:39:49 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Havok
Maggot is right!! If the collective socialist maggots had not been tearing away at our constitutional right to bear arms for the last 60 years then this would not be necessary. But they did and now we are going to reclaim this right.
I can only put this into the same context as the slavery issue. It took a long time to rid our nation of the tentacles of slavery which was wrongly imposed upon our nation. Sniffing out each and every trace of those abhorrent laws did cause some pain and did cause our nation to reorganize and reassess it's values. If we go with this ladies pathetic thinking then we would have had minorities running wild in the streets and taking over sane society. This did not happen. Minorities are now a very valued part of our society and true equality is much closer at hand.
When our second amendment rights are restored to us there will be changes but violent crime committed with a rock, knife, or a gun will still be illegal and will still be punished. This maggot lady author is full of hate and scare tactics. Her PC BS is not true and the current statistics of states that have liberal and open carry prove her wrong at each and every claim.
As usual truth and fact have nothing to do with the socialist's democrat statements or platform in this country. This author is a liar, plain and simple. She is predicting the future on nonexistent self developed fictional data. In the absence of any data to support her claim she is preaching fear, hate, and PC BS.
41 posted on 06/25/2008 11:46:49 AM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: RJL

This asshat mayor of Atlanta, where they can’t even protect judges and clerks in their freaking courthouse nor prosecute the dude that killed them, wants me to listen to her same-o same-o B.S. about handguns? Hey Shirley, get your head out of your dumba$$ and get a clue on what’s really needed in Atlanta. Maybe if you hired smarter cops AND maybe if you prosecuted criminals the crime rate might fall. What a complete dolt she is.


42 posted on 06/25/2008 11:48:33 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: snoringbear

Kennedy was the replacement that Reagan put up after Bork wasn’t confirmed.


43 posted on 06/25/2008 11:48:50 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Dead Corpse
I updated the collection and stuck it on my about page. I'd put it here but too many people bitch and complain about the graphics and how long they take to load. Never mind that the graphics are optimized for the web and that they could turn off graphics, or disable loading graphics from the only site on this planet that I use. I've already had my weekly allotment of bitching and complaining and it's ONLY Wednesday. :-) So just look at my about page. :-)
44 posted on 06/25/2008 11:57:59 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Havok

Gun-grabbing is a cult and Liberalism is a mental desease.

45 posted on 06/25/2008 12:22:24 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: skimbell

I believe everyone in the world knows that — including me — but thanks anyway.

It was a bit of sardonic humor.


46 posted on 06/25/2008 12:22:27 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Havok
Gun violence is a national crisis, but one that disproportionately affects those of us who live in urban areas.

Translation: "Urban" teenagers are shooting each other, a lot. We liberals don't really care about them so we need to change the subject....I know, let's take guns away from 50 year old cowboys! They're probably all Republicans, anyway. That's the ticket!

47 posted on 06/25/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Havok
D.C. has one of the lowest suicide rates in the country

Considering D.C. is overwhelmingly black and that whites outpace blacks 2-1 in the suicide department, this is a misleading "factoid" at best.

Shirley's reaching. She should really address why D.C. and Atlanta have such high crime and murder rates.

48 posted on 06/25/2008 12:53:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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To: Travis McGee

Good photo. And from what I can see, definitely Not Guilty.


49 posted on 06/25/2008 12:55:01 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: hiredhand

Got the picture of the #4 Enfield?


50 posted on 06/25/2008 2:21:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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